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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Manchester's tent city is getting worse
Manchester's homeless camp is growing because "activists are buying tents", according to council leaders.
The city centre has seen a number of encampments over the last year, most notably in St Peter's Square until a court order obtained by Manchester City Council saw those staying there effectively evicted on 26 February.
But within hours, new camps were established on Lower Mosley Street, next to the Midland Hotel, and on Albert Square.
Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham said he was listening to the calls of protestors but suggested the city was "doing more here than anywhere else to support people facing homelessness".
"A bed every night is our flagship scheme," he told BBC Radio Manchester.
"It's going up to 600 places from the start of April, and I think because of what we do more people come here looking for support.
"It doesn't mean though, to me, that we should then stop doing what we do."

Some 35 tents were counted in Albert Square on 7 March but just 12 days later that figure was around 42.
Residents have tended to be "refugees with legal right to be here'", according to deputy council leader Joanna Midgeley, who oversees the authority's homeless response.
Ms Midgeley said "the situation remains challenging" with the camp as she gave an update on action the council was taking to tackle it.
"It's not being helped by activists buying tents and making it bigger," she said.
"This is a national issue that's being played out on the streets of Manchester and across the country."

More than 200 camp residents had been placed into support accommodation by the council, the deputy leader added, and a further 25 "have been voluntarily connected to other local authorities".
The council said it could not use the existing court order to evict the residents of the new camp because it only applied to a "small, defined area" of St Peter's Square.
A spokesperson said previously: "It remains our position that such encampments anywhere in the city are not in anyone's best interests and are not a suitable, safe or sanitary place from which to access the support available to people facing homelessness."
Review of Adolescence from the Spectator Australia, helpful because it points out the people that served as inspiration were not convinced to do so by social media.
According to one gushing review, Netflix’s Adolescence is the ‘most brilliant TV drama in years’. And that verdict is at the mild end. Others have called it ‘flawless’ and ‘complete perfection’. The drama has achieved a 100 per cent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, the TV and film review website. If you haven’t watched Adolescence yet, you are almost certainly being implored to do so by friends, relatives, or – oh, the irony of it, as will become clear – by online peer pressure.
The four part mini-series, which tells the story of a 13-year-old schoolboy, Jamie Miller, who kills a classmate, certainly deserves many of its accolades. Owen Cooper, a 15-year-old who plays the lead part puts in a tremendous performance – all the more remarkable when you read that each episode was filmed in a single take.
Stephen Graham, who co-wrote the show with Jack Thorne, is thoroughly convincing as the miscreant’s father. The series is directed with great intensity. In an ago when TV schedules scream with more murders than the Lower Bronx in the 1980s, many of them in the artificial and stylised format of a Whodunnit, Adolescence brings a refreshing realism. You really do see it as if you were a fly on a the wall in the midst of a family trauma.

But flawless? When you read those kinds of words you know that reviewers have lost a sense of objectivity. Adolescence is very far from perfect. For one thing there is the gaping gap of the victim’s family. What are they thinking, how are they reacting to this cataclysm? We never find out because we never see them. We do see her best friend, briefly, but she seems mysteriously untraumatised – unless you interpret her impossibly gobby behaviour towards teachers and police officers as a symptom of shock.
Adolescence isn’t just a TV drama; it verges on being a morality play. It strikes so hard at the national moral panic over children, social media and the internet that I fear reviewers are failing to ask the questions which need to be asked about the very straightforward plot: namely, does an otherwise seemingly well-adjusted 13-year-old boy really knife to death a female classmate in cold blood because he has been offended by an emoji suggesting he will never find a girlfriend?
Graham says he was inspired to write the series after a spate of news stories involving teenage boys who had murdered teenage girls. One of these cases would appear to be that of Hassan Sentamu, a 17-year-old who murdered a friend of his ex-girlfriend in Croydon in 2023, for which he was sentenced to life in jail earlier this month. But then he had a long history of violent and threatening behaviour, sparked, it has been suggested, by abusive behaviour towards him while he was growing up in Uganda. At the age of 12, by then living in Britain, he drew a knife in his classroom and threatened to kill himself. Before his crime, his behavioural issues, and autism, had led him to be educated in a special school. His crime does not seem to have a lot do with social media or the internet; rather the trigger for his act appears to have been a group of girls making fun of him and spraying him with water the day beforehand.
Or there was the case of Logan MacPhail, a 16-year-old of low IQ who killed his ex-girlfriend in Northumberland, for which he was jailed for life last November. Again, there does not seem to have been much of an element involving social media; he had, though, fantasised about becoming a sniper while attending Army cadets. The murder was a grubby tale of jealousy and revenge which could have happened in any age.
Children do, of course, sometimes kill classmates without any obvious reason – in the United States it seems to happen far too often. Moreover, it has been going on since well before the internet and smartphones. Adolescence never really gets to the bottom of the deep traumas which turn a teenager into a killer – all that we learn is that, for no great reason, Jamie has severe anger management issues and a problem with girls. The series is constructed very determinedly in a way to make middle-class parents feel guilty about giving their children smartphones and allowing them to chat online in the privacy of their bedrooms, where they are exposed to all kinds of incel conspiracy theories. It was Andrew Tate wot did it, in other words – along with those nasty US tech firms. Indeed, Jack Thorne has this week called for smartphones to be banned for the under 16s.
Adolescence is still a good series, but were I reviewing it for Rotten Tomatoes I am afraid I would be dropping one of those five stars. For me, it becomes just a little too preachy.
 
The more I hear about this fucking show the more I am convinced with my schitzo theory that it is a glowop based on targeting zoomers and gen alpha to hate themselves more and fuck disgusting half-breeds. The caveat is Parliament is retarded and does not know how TikTok works and how right-wing younger people in Europe are on the rise and getting more vocal.

The funny thing is these politicians talk about watching it with their kids but according to the screen ratings standards, they are participants in the abuse of their children.

In other news, the OBR is having a sealed meeting today with Reeves to talk about growth, it's going to be about recession clearly. Also in a 2000 poll of Labour members, 1 in 4 wanted Starmer gone which is damning. The survey was carried out by Survation

 
Adolescence is great and is not preachy. Very little of the programme is dedicated to Jamie's motives at all. Most of it is just dedicated to how shit schools are and the effects on Jamie's family of his crime. The last of the four episodes is easily the best.
 
I saw the scene of black guy chasing the white boy and screaming at him to make him confess giving Jamie the knife. Someone should use that AI app that swaps out the characters in scenes for other characters, I think it would work quite well.

EDIT: Oh, and that one scene where the black kid is explaining to one of the detectives what the "manosphere" is.
 
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Robert Jenrick has just posted the following on twitter...


I was brought up in the Black Country by parents who possessed a deep English working-class patriotism.

That sense of national togetherness is now being torn to shreds as unprecedented levels of mass migration transform parts of our country beyond recognition.

The disorienting rate of change is rarely discussed by our media elite, so the numbers bear repeating. According to ONS census data, in central Bradford 50 per cent of people were born outside of the UK. In central Luton 46 per cent of all residents arrived in the past decade. Between 2001 and 2021 the proportion of the white British population in Dagenham fell by 51 per cent; in Slough by 35 per cent; and in Peterborough by 27 per cent. There is no historical precedent – or democratic mandate – for this.

Contrary to popular myth, the UK’s demographics have remained remarkably stable for most of our island story. Yes, we have experienced waves of migration, for instance the Huguenots in the late 17th century, but we are not, like our American friends, a nation of immigrants. Stability has served us well. It enabled a high-trust, cohesive society with a unifying national identity.

Few in Westminster dare acknowledge what is happening. They see the success stories – for instance, the politicians from immigrant backgrounds who have risen to the top of Government – which distorts their perceptions. They reap the benefits of mass migration and are wealthy enough to avoid the costs ordinary Brits face in their daily lives. In 2016 it was found that there are 416 schools where 50 per cent or more pupils are from Pakistani and Bangladeshi ethnic backgrounds. How many politicians send their children to those schools? If they left their ivory towers, they would see a very different picture – one where mass migration has led to fractured cities, isolated communities, and growing sectarianism.

What I saw recently in Handsworth, Birmingham showed just how far things have declined. Palestinian flags fluttered on lampposts; the Union Flag or St George’s Cross couldn’t be seen. Men outnumbered women on the street, shop signs and posters were emblazoned in foreign languages (with 1 in 7 unable to speak English well) and over half of the population are out of work.

In this ward 45 per cent of the population were not born in Britain and 92 per cent are ethnic minorities. This is not the diversity liberals celebrate as “enriching”, but a monolithic block of first, second and third generation migrants living culturally divergent lives.

It’s impossible to integrate areas like this, as the host society is absent. I challenge even the most devoted pro-migration campaigners to visit and describe it as a success story. It is anything but.

Out of sight, the shameful failures of mass migration are even more concerning. Cousin marriage remains common among some South Asian minorities, with the most recent data showing that in three inner-city Bradford wards almost half of mothers from the Pakistani community were married to a first or second cousin.

There are an estimated 85 Sharia Councils across the country – we simply do not know the full details, other than that they are growing in number. This is despite reports that many of these Councils condone wife-beating, and ignore marital rape and forced marriage. That is a stain on our country that should anger us all.

We have imported ethnic and religious tensions, meaning that conflicts on the other side of the world play out on Britain’s streets. In 2023, for instance, four police officers were injured after tensions in the Eritrean community led to clashes. We cannot accept that as normal.

A nation without a common language or cultural reference points to bind people together ceases to be a nation. In the UK today nearly a million people can’t speak English or can’t speak it well – a situation made worse by government translation services that allow people to get by without it.

Successive governments have rightly been criticised for failing to prevent this. In honesty, there hasn’t really been an integration policy worthy of the name. Cowardly politicians have turned a blind eye and allowed problems to fester. Often they’ve made it worse. Instead of encouraging assimilation, the British state has enforced differences through state-sponsored DEI. Rather than demand immigrants buy into the values, customs, and institutions that attracted them here in the first place, we have tolerated unacceptable practices that offend the British way of life.

Most appallingly of all, the British state has bungled programmes like Prevent which are designed to counter the biggest failures of integration, misallocating resources away from Islamist extremism. A decade ago, in an independent review into integration, Baroness Casey gave a clarion call for change. But not one of her recommendations mentioned the need to end mass migration. The truth is it’s impossible to absorb the number of people coming into the country and retain a strong sense of national identity.

On current trends, by 2050 as many as one in three of the UK population will have been born abroad. Like those who have come before, most of them will settle in urban centres, exacerbating our ongoing challenges. How can we possibly hope to integrate new arrivals into our way of life if there is nothing to integrate into? That is why we desperately need to end mass migration. I resigned from the previous Government after I couldn’t secure any more reductions. The need for those changes are more urgent than ever. In Casey’s report she mounted a spirited defence of so-called “British values” (which are, in reality, common Western values) like freedom of speech, freedom of religion and respect for one another. But only tackling extreme behaviour is a low bar for an integration strategy.

We must aspire for more. I want to raise my children, as my parents did, in a country bound by a strong sense of national community, shared customs and tradition, and pride in our history, landscape and literature. One in which people, regardless of their skin colour or faith, live side by side, never ghettoised. It will not be the Britain of yesteryear; however it can still have what Roger Scruton called a love of home. At an event last week in the Midlands a man rose to ask me a question. He said he was a proud British Sikh, but then corrected himself and said he was, above all, proudly British. He went on to make a powerful speech for a more united country. He called for an end to religious prayers on our streets – explaining there are no shortages of mosques, gurdwaras, and temples – and despaired at the multitude of business groups he was invited to in the West Midlands which divide people by skin colour or faith. “I am Sikh and a businessman”, he said. “I do not need a Sikh business association to express my views”. He ended by saying, in reference to the foreign flags flying in his neighbourhood that for him, “the Union Flag is the flag I live under and am loyal to, not the Palestinian flag.” Have pride in Britain he said. A standing ovation followed. We must capture his spirit, and make ourselves one country, under one flag.
 
Robert Jenrick has just posted the following on twitter...

https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1903138449491656916
I skimmed through; complete nothing of substance it's the typical civ nat trash, complete with muh based sikh bidness man at the end. Nice to see the window shifting in the right direction at least but browns will never be Brits simple as.
There is one very good thing from it though; Multiculturalism is dead, that's an excellent first step, if I'm a position to vote for him I will do.
That said not til the day there's an Act of Parliament declaring Enoch Powell to have been right will I actually take any of their shit seriously.
 
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Robert Jenrick has just posted the following on twitter...
Seems odd to talk about demographics, immigration, but then end it on some CivNat stuff with a Sikh but I'll play devil's advocate and say it might have been necessary to avoid getting removed from his shadow secretary position and removed from the party altogether for doing a racism.

I skimmed through; complete nothing of substance it's the typical civ nat trash, complete with muh based sikh bidness man at the end. Nice to see the window shifting in the right direction at least but browns will never be Brits simple as.
There is one very good thing from it though; Multiculturalism is dead, that's an excellent first step, if I'm a position to vote for him I will do.
That said not til the day there's an Act of Parliament declaring Enoch Powell to have been right will I actually take any of their shit seriously.
The other possible 'good' is that it may indicate a proliferation of the sentiment of anti-immigration within the Conservatives. A majority of the tweet was dedicated to demographics, and whilst it couched in a few places by CivNat rhetoric (Sikh anecdote like you mentioned + mentions of integration) I think the most important and startling (for some people) details at the start are why he had to be tactful near the end. I still won't vote Tory next election but it's good to know some things aren't confined to Reform and Homeland. Deportations, re-migration and pay-to-leave need to be openly talked about now, try as Farage might to keep a lid on them. Politicians in general seem to be 10-20 years behind the rest of the population when it comes to what they actually want. Right now they're only just reaching the CivNat shit being espoused in the early to mid 2010s. At this rate they'll be discussing deportations and the issues with demographics openly come 2035.
 
One in which people, regardless of their skin colour or faith
He lost me there. You can't argue for integration and comment on how migrants are opening sharia courts and shagging their cousins, then hand-wave away the religion that allows it.
Balls to religious freedoms. We're a Christian nation and it that should be the only religion allowed - I'll give exception to Buddhists because come on, they're Buddhist.
 
I think we need a British version of Q.

I might start telling people that the King has secretly abducted to allow Tommy Robinson to rule with the innocent Lucy Letby at his side as Queen.

Starmer is in military custody awaiting trial and all the recent footage of him is AI.

Trust the plan.
 
I'll give exception to Buddhists because come on, they're Buddhist.
Buddhists have committed one of the worst genocides since WWII in Myanmar.

They used to have pretty large empires in Asia.

I’d go with the Jains. It’s hard to find them up to much.

Edit: no, changed my mind. I’m going with the Druze!
 
Buddhists have committed one of the worst genocides since WWII in Myanmar.
Isn't that where they butchered all of those muslims immigrants because they kept fucking around, and found out when one of the muzzies rapes a buddhist kid?

The same genocide that the BBC reported on in a fake setting, blaming the natives for expelling the most hated religion known to man?

I'm genuinely asking because that's the only genocide I know of.
 
Isn't that where they butchered all of those muslims immigrants because they kept fucking around, and found out when one of the muzzies rapes a buddhist kid?

The same genocide that the BBC reported on in a fake setting, blaming the natives for expelling the most hated religion known to man?

I'm genuinely asking because that's the only genocide I know of.
That’s the one. No one cared except the BBC because they were the wrong type of Muslim. Kinda like in Sudan.

When you think about it Muslims are literally built for the BBC.
 
That’s the one. No one cared except the BBC because they were the wrong type of Muslim. Kinda like in Sudan.

When you think about it Muslims are literally built for the BBC.
I remember watching the 'live' reports and how the BBC tried painting the muslims as innocent...then the full story came out about how the muzzies were raping, stealing and just acting muslim, until the buddhists did what no other country has done, and wiped them out.

Buddhists keep their country while we lose ours. Maybe a lesson to be learned.
 
This is the case with every military’s officers, no matter the branch or nation. Do you really think that officers who went to some university and had some military training courses mixed in with their weekend benders and normal classes are somehow more well-adjusted, more intelligent? Even military academy officers are hardly prime specimens.
Yes I do. No other western military commissions officers with the equivalent of two fucking A-Levels.

St Cyr is a 3 year undergraduate course, West point and every other US miltiary service academy is 4. Western nations that have short courses for Officers require an undergraduate degree for entry.

1 in 8 soldiers in the Army is an officer, the Marines are fucking worse they have some former country estate that shits them out faster than sandhurst.

With a regiment like the Irish Guards, a huge proportion of their officers come from a single public school, Ampleforth. The overwhelming majority have some sort of family connection to the regiment (and I don't mean the other ranks). The cavalry are worse, all the problems with AJAX, that's largely down to dumb as fuck cavalry officers fucking up writing the requirements and trials.

I'm not using the word dumb as some perjorative, I literally mean that many of them are sub 80 IQ.
 
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