The toxic cesspool that is online anime culture - Exploring deep-rooted racism, misogyny and transphobia in online discussions of the animation style

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Content warning: This article contains mentions of transphobia.

In 2003, 15-year-old anime fan Christopher Poole took inspiration from the Japanese forum site “2chan” to create his own anonymous, discussion-based online platform in the Western world.
He called it 4chan, and while it began as a site from which users could share and discuss anime—particularly hentai, a form of animated Japanese pornography—it rapidly transgressed into something much more sinister.

“[With 4chan], you had a group of people who were really holding onto these ideas and they needed a space to express them,” said Aurélie Petit, a doctoral candidate in film and moving images studies at Concordia University.

Petit pointed to anonymity and a lack of moderation as key points of 4chan’s allure, the freedom for users to post whatever they want with no repercussions, under the safety blanket of a fake name.

Petit’s thesis, entitled “Of Tentacles and Men: How anime shaped the internet as we know it,” explores the progression of the online anime fandom and its deep-rooted ties to misogyny, racism, homophobia and more.

But the problematic nature of the fandom, she said, traces back decades, even before the creation of 4chan. According to Petit, the role that online forums have taken in the anime fandom since the 1990s—as well as who is using these forums—is distinct.

“It’s like a way to socialize, very often between heterosexual men,” Petit said. “It was the same on 4chan: for them, it was about translating hentai—because people were watching hentai online in the ‘90s—and then sharing it with their friends.”

She added that the fact that these forum sites’ users were primarily white, cisgender, heterosexual men lies at the origin of the online anime fandom’s ties to alt-right ideologies over the years.

And for one Montreal-based anime fan in particular, this demographic breakdown is what has steered her from previous heavy involvement in online discussions about anime.

“So often, when I go on Reddit or some other [site] where people are talking about an anime series that I really like, there are so many gross and sexist opinions on it,” said Ayra Megan, who has been granted a pseudonym for safety reasons. “Unfortunately when I was young, I used to chat [on these sites] and naively go along with what people were saying.”

Megan added that the discussion of women’s bodies in anime on these online forums led to her having self-image issues in her teenage years.

“In some animes, young women in particular are shown as having big chests but small waists, and they are often [wearing] short skirts or a form of revealing clothing that so obviously sexualizes them,” Megan said. “The way these characters are talked about online, by men, is just appalling.”

According to another long-time fan of the art form, racism in anime can be traced back to the start of the art style.

“It’s really baked into anime from the beginning, in my opinion,” said Embraline Schuilenburg, a 21-year-old anime fan. “It got created as a medium at a time when a lot of these ideas—misogyny, racism in particular—these were common thought trains in society, and they definitely reflect in the work.”

Schuilenburg noted that, as an example, stereotypical and offensive portrayals of Black characters can often be found in anime, as well as racist depictions of other Asians besides Japanese people.

“[Some animes] will give other Asian characters the classic ‘squinty’ eye, which is really interesting considering it’s reflecting an almost internalized self-hatred,” Schuilenburg said.

According to Schuilenburg, it’s not just racism that can be found in dated anime TV series and movies, however.

One stand-out example of transphobia, she recalled, stems from the 1992 show Yu Yu Hakusho.

The show features a fight scene between a man and a woman, in which the male fighter, Yusuke, grabs the woman’s genitals mid-fight to “check and make sure” his opponent is biologically female. At the end of the fight, Yusuke exposes the woman—who is described as a transgender demon on the fandom wiki page—to his friends, exclaiming, “It turns out our ‘Mrs.’ is a ‘Mr.’”

According to Petit, this deep-rooted alt-right rhetoric within the online anime fandom even supersedes the fandom itself.

She pointed to an instance involving Arizona Representative Paul Gosar, who, in 2016, edited himself killing New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a fight scene from the popular anime series Attack on Titan.

As another adjacent example, Petit mentioned Gamergate, an online harassment campaign from 2014 to 2015 that sought to shun women within the larger online gaming community. Traits of toxic masculinity within the gaming community are largely connected to the online anime fandom, where similar rhetoric is perpetuated.

Moving forward, Petit emphasized the importance of recognizing the problematic nature of the fandom to prevent furthering it.

“As long as we’re not confronting this history,” Petit said, “we’re just going to keep repeating it.”

A previous version of this article had miswritten Aurélie Petit's thesis title. The Link regrets this error.
 
Content warning: This article contains mentions of transphobia.
Petit’s thesis, entitled “Of Tentacles and Men: How anime shaped the internet as we know it,”
She added that the fact that these forum sites’ users were primarily white, cisgender, heterosexual men lies at the origin of the online anime fandom’s ties to alt-right ideologies over the years.
“[Some animes] will give other Asian characters the classic ‘squinty’ eye, which is really interesting considering it’s reflecting an almost internalized self-hatred,” Schuilenburg said.
Gamergate, an online harassment campaign from 2014 to 2015 that sought to shun women within the larger online gaming community.
I hate these people so fucking much.
Notice how theres not a single mention of Star Blazers or Robotech, which are largely the reason niptoons took off over here to begin with.
 
Hilarious considering how many troons use anime as their fucking inspiration for trooning out. I don’t consider anime an extreme right thing at all, it’s a pretty even split between all, although the left seem the most vocal and weird about it all.

Anyway, the Japanese are extremely racist. They despise anything that goes against their norm. Even if you a cute black haired Chinese girl- they hate you. Even if you’re a true Japanese boy but you have blonde hair- they hate you. You will conform. Sure you can have your weird hobby, but you better be normal in public & work 700 hour weeks. This isn’t an anime specific problem, it’s a culture thing.
 
Oh it's only pink news..

Still.. FUCK OFF! I seriously hope something bad happens to these types of people at this point. I want to watch anime, relax, have fun, escape for a bit. And be able to joke around online in the fandom, be able talk freely, maybe about cute female characters and debate lore etc.

They don't even hide it, just like with gaming. "Men created this space and why that means it has to be purged of them and what they like!"

Time to gatekeep even harder. This can be taken right out of the archives of the gaming and MSM in and around ~2014.. This is narrative building. If it isn't pushed back it will soon be treated as reality and once that happens, there is likely no going back. Especially if they get the japanese industry involved. (which they will since they are obsessed with trying to force the japanese ind to add in more diversity, letter people, politics and ugly characters etc.)
 
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“It’s really baked into anime from the beginning, in my opinion,” said Embraline Schuilenburg, a 21-year-old anime fan. “It got created as a medium at a time when a lot of these ideas—misogyny, racism in particular—these were common thought trains in society, and they definitely reflect in the work.”
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Love when troons with visible Adams apples like to talk about misogyny.
 
She added that the fact that these forum sites’ users were primarily white, cisgender, heterosexual men lies at the origin of the online anime fandom’s ties to alt-right ideologies over the years.

She couldn't have been more wrong about that. There have have always been plenty of anime discussion spaces catering to groups that were the complete opposite of that.

According to Petit, this deep-rooted alt-right rhetoric within the online anime fandom even supersedes the fandom itself.

So what explains looney left American democratic presidential candidate Mariyann Williamson making Evangelion themed ads during her run for president?

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Here's the thing though. Japan had troons for the longest time and poked fun at it through so much media. Vid related.



Gintama in particular makes fun of troonery but if you want something more serious about Troons being portrayed in a somewhat sympathetic light, there's always 20th century boys.
 
There's also Astro Boy, Gigantor, Speed Race, Kimba, Prince Planet.
True, but those were treated more like your standard cartoon fare, whereas Star Blazers and especially Robotech fit more into what most people expect from anime in the modern day (barring all the moe and sex pervert stuff of course). I'm pretty sure they're also more directly responsible for the subsequent popularity explosion.
 
Here's the thing though. Japan had troons for the longest time and poked fun at it through so much media. Vid related.

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Gintama in particular makes fun of troonery but if you want something more serious about Troons being portrayed in a somewhat sympathetic light, there's always 20th century boys.
The best part is that Japan literally has social catagories for genderspecials where they can exist if they stay in the socially acceptable box and no where else. Otoko no ko is where the concept of the Trap comes from and western gender specials fucking hate them, because they're just effeminate men in women's clothes who pass better than trannies do. They're mostly fags, but not all, and they drive the troons up the wall.
 
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Love when troons with visible Adams apples like to talk about misogyny.
This person looks like the kind of person who would say "she looks ten years old but is actually over five thousand years old because of the lore" or whatever.

Also, the "if you can't get a girlfriend then become the girlfriend " meme.
 
Ah, you just know the type to write this.
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What is ironic is that I’ve seen more of these types on X/Twitter and they’re no different from the crowd that loves to lecture (pretty much be condescending) others on “media literacy”, yet they will never watch anything that is not shounen related.

The same shounen which is aimed towards young teenagers that just want to see Dragon Ball-inspired fights over plots in storytelling.
 
Here's the thing though. Japan had troons for the longest time and poked fun at it through so much media. Vid related.

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Gintama in particular makes fun of troonery but if you want something more serious about Troons being portrayed in a somewhat sympathetic light, there's always 20th century boys.
Jisatsuto/Suicide Island has a serious portrayal of one. Not sure if it'd be considered sympathetic. Character mostly exists to be the damsel tranny in distress and doesn't have much else going for him.
 
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