Ah yes, didn’t Ukraine & Russia have two separate ceasefires established during 2014-2015? Russia broke both-among many other
things.
I think there were more than just those. I've long since stopped bothering to count since Russia violates every single one and nothing happens because the guarantors are the worthless UN resolutions & EU nations that would lack the will and ability to do anything other than strongly worded letters. Russian proxies shot down a civilian airliner with Russian equipment and nothing happened FFS.
Just this current war, Ukraine and Russia also had a Orthodox Christmas ceasefire in 2023 , supposed to last for 4 days and I believe didn't make it a full 24 hours before Russia started their shit again. No ceasefire that doesn't have "Putin dies immediately" as a consequence for Russia breeching it will ever hold.
I don’t quite understand Trumps strategy here-albeit there probably isn’t one. They want to pull Russia away from China? No chance.
If it wasn’t for America being globalists , they would not have been a superpower, they both come hand-in-hand, and it has consequences (British Empire).
He's gotten Europe to commit to rearm (even though that's already imploding after just two weeks). The ceasefire is absolutely lame, fake, and gay but its more peacetalk than there has been once Russia's "Kiev Feint" collapsed.
I honestly can't tell you what the strategy is. No sanctions have been rolled back. No new aid has been green lit. As far as actually things going on, minus a less-than-a-week pause on aid and intel, its status quo from Biden's final days; minus the tougher sanctions Biden put in place on his way out the door, and Trump putting a couple of new names on the sanctions naughty list, its the same as 2023.
So Trump spews a lot of hot air but nothing has been done yet.
The only thing I have is Trump is using Putin as boogeyman to get Europe to maybe, possibly, actually rearm for real this time. Its the only thing that tracks with both "Not reducing sanctions" and "not increasing sanctions".
Correct about the Globalist thing.
I understand where true isolationists like Rand Paul come from, but that's not just a realistic stance anymore. One could argue the US is too involved in things we don't need to be involved in and foreign commitments could/should be scaled back, but a total departure is just simply not possible and truly hasn't been realistically feasible since the development of the ICBM.
Re: Niggerwars, don't start a who-owes-who. Euroniggers keep talking about their minority commitments like they alone held the line and not like they didn't spend the entire time bitching and trying to weasel out (except the Bongs. And the Poles.), but setting that asside:
For the past 15+ years EU defense with the exception of the Baltics and the partial exception of the UK (which is a shell of what it was but still better than most of its peers) has become a complete fucking joke, and any attempts to get the Euros to actually raise competent armies is dismissed out of hand for any of a number of reasons. No one can seriously suggest Europe is ready for combat against a peer unless supported by the US.
You can disagree if that's a problem or not, but not with the reality.
The supposed separatists in the Donbas and Crimea were FSB fakes. While there were some votes for Russian leaning politicians, the separatism was and is fake. Zelensky was born to Russian speakers and Crimea particularly had no separatism in any electoral sense. The only actual indigenous population there barring a handful of Pontic Greeks are the Tatars. Their cultural institutions have been basically destroyed since 2014.
The coal mines of Donetsk (originally Hugheskova) did draw in Russian speakers (after discovery by Hughes of the reserves) and the speaking of Ukrainian was repressed and only nominally protected in Soviet times. Russian was the 'human language'. Yet Putin would've found another reason. It's fake on stilts as Russian is spoken throughout Ukraine alongside Ukrainian and other languages. Language and state hasn't been one since 1776 or a little later when Napoleon suppressed the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.
People were forced at gunpoint to join a poor and failing klephtocracy.
The separatists were largely fake, and they were funded and armed by the FSB, but they had Russia-descent local mobs, getting local leaders to promise prosperity and blame Kiev & the EU for all their woes. Tale as old as time, etc. The local population though in large, in true serf fashion mostly just went along with whoever was closest and the most well-armed.
The real thing that left out is that Russia had their fake & gay referendum after 8 years of civil war that would have driven out any pro-Ukraine populations to "not the active combat zone". The only people left when they took their gunpoint vote would have been Ziggers and the Zigger-curious.
Wikloff just seems a pig ignorant tool and fool only appointed as the Trump Administration foolishly cucked to Russia over the choice of General Kellogg (a professional and well read man) as envoy. No wonder veterans following the war on YouTube scorn Wikloff who seems only to have been chosen for lack of independent thought. Trump II has really disappointed regarding Ukraine.
Most normal countries cope with minority ethnic identities. Even Canada accommodated the Quebecois. Belgium coped although in areas like policing there are issues.
People seem to rapidly forget that Kellog was talking the appeasement track as well. I didn't like him either, but he also toughened his stance a bit when he was the one actually sitting at the table. He gave off a better presence than what we've seen from Wikloff.
>Quebecois
That only holds for two reasons - first France is an ocean away. And second, France has told them repeatedly they don't want them. French hate the Quebecois almost as much as Anglos and possibly more than Burgers depending on when you ask.
Putin does not accept the idea of Ukraine even existing. Ukrainian language books are destroyed when Russians take a town. Putin will be 'thank you Trump' but will try to take the rest later.
I'm willing to wait to see what terms are put in place on any ceasefire/peace provided one even actually emerges, but I agree that any ceasefire is almost certainly an Obama-Iran tier mistake. As long as he draws breath Putin won't stop as long as there is a Ukraine or at least as long as there is one he can't control. I'm just willing accept there might be a plan I don't see before I lose my shit.
He rules out putting sanctions on Russia, since Russia has "about more sanctions than anybody".
He doesn't rule out more sanctions. He just says Russia already has a lot of sanctions without committing to any course of action.
I'd wonder if this poster realizes that the only way to increase Sanctions on Russia would be to get the Euros to import less Russian gas, and what that would do to the European economies. (or get China and India to turn down the massive windfall dropping in their laps and good fucking luck). But I know they don't. In typical Eurofag fashion he only sees Orange Man Bad and energy independence as dirty and not climate-friendly.
With him dismissing UK ideas as posturing and saying he thinks Putin is a decent guy that is "super smart".
Well, he's made the EU look like clowns for going on two decades so at least when compared to the local competition...
His thing is lying until he can no longer lie, and then flood the thread with off-topic garbage until the other side stops responding, then he declares he won the argument.
He's done that several times, and on any other board of this site he'd have gotten threadbanned a long time ago.
I can't think of the last time any of the maganiggers here contributed anything on topic. They are here to lie about Trump and derail the thread with bullshit and GWOT brainrot.
This from the Eurofag who posted totally on-topic AI BDSM porn & non-stop Trump sex fantasies. You've been deranged about Trump since summer, and still posts disproven shit as if its fact.
and as a typical Eurocuck, unable to actually argue, they say the other sides does what they do and then resort to blocking things they don't like.
This is why MAGA propagandists should get banned from this thread. Not only do they not contribute positively, they contribute negatively by spamming Russian talking points. Their posting has the same impact as that of vatniggers from the other thread.
TDS Eurofags should be banned from talking American politics.
Also at no point do you refute that Europe sends more money to Russia than they send aid to Ukraine, or that EU armed forces are complete jokes. Only that anyone who disagrees with you should be muzzled by the authorities.
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