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[Fcret]

sure, companies can pay Americans, but of course, that would make all food more expensive, which i recall being a huge reason some people voted for Trump.

I don't really care about Trump election rhetoric and I don't support him. American society is absolutely addicted to cheap foreign labor and it needs to stop because cheap foreign labor is eventually not going to be available.

Personally I agree with what the treasury secretary said about Americans being addicted to cheap Chinese TVs. I wouldn't put that in an election campaign but it's an incontrovertible fact that this country is a torpid mass of treatlers in need of a wake up call before it's too late.

 

[Lurker]

I don't really care about Trump election rhetoric and I don't support him. American society is absolutely addicted to cheap foreign labor and it needs to stop because cheap foreign labor is eventually not going to be available.

Personally I agree with what the treasury secretary said about Americans being addicted to cheap Chinese TVs. I wouldn't put that in an election campaign but it's an incontrovertible fact that this country is a torpid mass of treatlers in need of a wake up call before it's too late.

either it'll be cheap foreign labor or free slave labor courtesy of our for-profit prison system

not that i agree with either, but i'm being realistic

edit: or, OR, employing literal actual children and legally paying them less than adults

 

[Fcret]

either it'll be cheap foreign labor or free slave labor courtesy of our for-profit prison system

not that i agree with either, but i'm being realistic

Or, and hear me out here... We could actually invest in any of the thousands of agricultural automation technologies we explored in the 2010s and make them viable instead of passing them over because, "it's cheaper in the short-term to pay a Guatemalan to pick oranges."

Cheap foreign labor is an albatross around our neck in more ways than one.

 

[Lurker]

Or, and hear me out here... We could actually invest in any of the thousands of agricultural automation technologies we explored in the 2010s and make them viable instead of passing them over because, "it's cheaper in the short-term to pay a Guatemalan to pick oranges."

Cheap foreign labor is an albatross around our neck in more ways than one.

the short-term is all that matters these days, unfortunately

 

[Local Fed]

or, OR, employing literal actual children and legally paying them less than adults

The children yearn for the cornfields.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

We could actually invest in any of the thousands of agricultural automation technologies we explored in the 2010s and make them viable instead of passing them over because, "it's cheaper in the short-term to pay a Guatemalan to pick oranges."

How do you think that US agricultural producers can collect enough capital to suddenly switch towards automation as complete replacement for cheap immigrant labor?

 

[Fcret]

How do you think that US agricultural producers can collect enough capital to suddenly switch towards automation as complete replacement for cheap immigrant labor?

Favorable lending policies by a government serious about tackling this issue. Capital allocation is easy once political will is established, but political will often requires pain to be inflicted first.

Personally, I think the American people deserve a decade of suffering to smarten them up. Did you think my rhetoric about treatlers was hyperbolic?

It doesn't really matter what I think though - the fact is that eventually the flood of foreign labor will disappear. The country can either prepare now when it's convenient or prepare in the future when we already have food shortages. Sitting around whining about the impossibility of fixing it is a creature comfort we won't have for long.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Favorable lending policies by a government serious about tackling this issue.

Would putting US farmers into further debt potentially make them more risky as borrowers than they already are or hurt their businesses? Mind you, generating ROI as a farmer is no easy or quick feat, and they would depend on it to cover large additional loans and the high costs of automatization. A poor harvest or any other cause behind poor ROI could easily lead to foreclosures. Putting business owners into further debt to support political goals is not always a smart solution in my opinion.

 

[666NASTYFUCKINGFREAK666]

Would putting US farmers into further debt potentially make them more risky as borrowers than they already are or hurt their businesses? Mind you, generating ROI as a farmer is no easy or quick feat, and they would depend on it to cover large additional loans and the high costs of automatization. A poor harvest or any other cause behind poor ROI could easily lead to foreclosures. Putting business owners into further debt to support political goals is not always a smart solution in my opinion.

We could do grants instead.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

We could do grants instead.

Wouldn't this simply lead to inflated prices of equipment? Besides, I am really unsure just how much welfare farmers can receive before agricultural businesses basically become state-sponsored enterprises that are kept on life support for ideological reasons.

 

[666NASTYFUCKINGFREAK666]

Wouldn't this simply lead to inflated prices of equipment?

Price controls, then?

 

[Fcret]

Would putting US farmers into further debt potentially make them more risky as borrowers than they already are? Mind you, generating ROI as a farmer is no easy or quick feat, and they would depend on it to cover large additional loans. A poor harvest or any other cause behind poor ROI could easily lead to foreclosures. Putting business owners into further debt to support political goals is not always a smart solution in my opinion.

We could do grants instead.

Obviously the accounting on the ground will not be as simple as I make it. My point isn't really whether or not this is a good thing but more, "this is a thing we should probably start working on if we want to eat in the near future."

I should probably clarify that I don't have any particularly strong anti-immigrant positions (other than jeets, fuck jeets). I don't know if I'd be particularly bothered if we could keep our current system going indefinitely, but we really can't now that all the nearby poor countries have started to industrialize in earnest. We need to start actually thinking of solutions instead of defaulting to, "but who will pick the vegetables, checkmate chuds."

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Price controls, then?

I don't trust price controls, especially in agritech. Controlling the prices of equipment would be difficult and potentially make the business unprofitable leading to lower supply against increasing demand. As supply decreases, farmers will be unable to obtain the equipment needed to run their businesses with a collapse of farming enterprises as the consequence if cheap labor cannot be obtained.

Edit: Besides, how does one exactly price control tech? You don't just buy one piece of equipment with no further payment, but agricultural tech is usually a package of physical tools, software and services. I am unfamiliar with cases where price controls were applied to the entire thing. If the aren't suppliers can simply raise costs on other parts of the "package".

We need to start actually thinking of solutions instead of defaulting to, "but who will pick the vegetables, checkmate chuds."

My concerns are more along the lines of preserving the competitiveness of the US agricultural sector in face of increasing internal and external pressures. US needs its farmers alive to compete with industrializing economies which benefit fully from near-slave labor.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Farmers will have to stop being traitors and just pay white people properly. Oh God, the horror! Why do you support hoards of browns flooding our homelands and abusing our people? We created the modern world, power generation and distribution, radio, internal combustion engines, the internet, flight, the integrated circuit, it's all us. You really think we can't figure out how to make proper food without a hoard of retards? We INVENTED modern farming. We'll figure it the fuck out.

Relying on the desperate foreign people to pick food has never been a sustainable model and I don't know why lefties trot out this one like some gotcha. Ultimately we either need to make this model financially viable for ordinary Americans to do for a living or we need to begin aggressive automation or we simply need to stop eating certain things.

There is not some magical endless fount of Latin Americans anymore. Birth rates tanked in Mexico and Central America in the 2000s and the people in those places are increasingly inclined to stay where they are. Even without Trump, the number of people coming here to pick tomatoes is on a steep secular decline and we need to stop acting like we can kick this can down the road indefinitely.

If you want the prices of food to go up to such an amount that 2022 looks like nothing, then sure. Let's get some farmers to pay people $20 an hour to pick crops. Price controls? Harris suggested this and MAGA simps threw a hissy fit over it

Spoiler: It ain't happening. Either you stop deporting migrants, many of whom are here legally, or food will continue to be unhealthy slop overall.

No idea why you have such a hard on for deporting brown people, either. They were here first anyway

 

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There were a lot of Arab voters who fell for it, too. It has been satisfying to see the shock from those people as they've found out that Zion Don is not going to save Palestine.

Noone thought Trump was going to be anything but a jew tool. But Biden and Kamala needed to be punished for being jew tools.

 

[NoBueno]

Just following up on this to say I think you guys will turn out to be right. I knew Trump's second term would.be a disappointment but I didn't think it would fall flat so hard and so fast. Even my tiny bit of hope for him has been whittled down to an ember. Still hoping for deportations and better food but I'm very pessimistic about both. Pic absolutely related.View attachment 7127932

It would help if the Rabbis stopped turning into living stereotypes

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114212473050636851

hahahahahahaha imagine simping for this tard

A President hawking a meme coin seems super illegal

Also, trump want big businesses to sponsors the Easter egg hunt at the White House. Can’t believe people are okay with corporations doing this show with trump. Can’t wait for MAGAtards wanting to buy a plastic egg with the Tesla logo on it

https://www.14news.com/2025/03/23/white-house-asking-corporate-sponsors-easter-egg-roll/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3vZP_GfhE8fmie3Kkkp1JF43u6W0q340wyE0qcNdmFN3wxzAoofy7tz7g_aem_4pf_9eEg8kVNqKIqiaqatg

 

[NoBueno]

I didn't know this was even going on

I suppose Ivanka knows about making connections from her early modelling work

Sometimes I wonder if shes still trying to make connections

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

A President hawking a meme coin seems super illegal

Also, trump want big businesses to sponsors the Easter egg hunt at the White House. Can’t believe people are okay with corporations doing this show with trump. Can’t wait for MAGAtards wanting to buy a plastic egg with the Tesla logo on it

https://www.14news.com/2025/03/23/white-house-asking-corporate-sponsors-easter-egg-roll/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3vZP_GfhE8fmie3Kkkp1JF43u6W0q340wyE0qcNdmFN3wxzAoofy7tz7g_aem_4pf_9eEg8kVNqKIqiaqatg

It absolutely should be securities manipulation but Republicans have decided that Donald Trump is the king now and is above the law, so daddy can do whatever he wants

 

[The Last Stand]

I suppose Ivanka knows about making connections from her early modelling work

She looks malnourished with that figure on the right. Beauty standards in this country have regressed if you think THAT is "hot."