US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

Your solution to welfare fraud is to go after small businesses. Somehow this will put a big enough dent in welfare fraud for it to not be an issue. Okay man.

If the small business' model relies entirely on graft, then yes. There are plenty of other small businesses that don't rely on EBT fraud to get by, and they'd probably be happy to get more business after the fraudulent businesses close down. How is a small legitimate grocery store supposed to compete with a bodega down the street that enables people to buy cigarettes, beer, and lotto tickets with EBT at 50 cents on the dollar? They can't. So the small grocery store goes under, and another bodega opens in its place.

ANY business that relies on graft as its business model should be closed, how is this even a point of discussion?

 

[Wash away the rain]

Am I wrong or hasn't the Atlantic been caught literally making up stories before?

The Atlantic is a terrible paper every article I see from them or hear from the grape vine is the biggest crock of propaganda bullshit.

 

[Back me up!]

I think it's fucked up that America is dictating to the lower class what they can and cannot put in their bodies. This is no different from when they were enforcing the vaccine on everyone, where are the truckers out protesting this appalling overreach of authority? Let's get out there and call on Congress to Dew it Right™

When daddy-gov is paying for your meals daddy-gov get to decide what you can eat.

And daddy-gov thinks you are wayyyyy to fat.

 

[OnionMuncher]

We always talk about middle class white kids, we never consider lower class white trash or non-white kids into the equation because that would be racist

hey, I'm white trailer trash and I'm just as racist as the rest of ya

wait....

Also can't quote @The Noise but idk if it came off like I disagree with anything you said, I literally have the same opinion except sodies should not be available. I say as a kid that grew up on food stamps and really enjoyed Hawaiian punch and RC cola.

 

[Clown College 2nd Year]

@Noom Boom I can't quote your post for some reason but thanks for clearing that up. Since you mentioned that the courts will have to end up interpreting the law I'm a little afraid now that Roberts will absolutely cuck if it goes to the supreme court. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

What about the sugar tax? Just make it cost twice as much and if retards want to waste all their money on it anyways, boo for them

That would interfere with people using their own money and would open up the door for shit like red meat taxes or saturated fat taxes due to WEF vegan agenda bullshit.
Restricting processed food and drink for snap, with explicitly no restriction on whole food ingredients, does no such thing because people can just buy their junk themselves with their own money.
Just like what you can get covered by tax funded Healthcare is much more restrictive than simply paying out of pocket. This isn't hard to understand.

 

[The Noise]

Disingenuous bleeding heart bullshit! Single mothers qualify for WIC and in any case, there is enough free food in this country for anyone who bothers to take it even with no government assistance at all.
You can fuck right off with your "10 photos that will make you say fuck having borders and laws and shit" garbage.
Take your psyops elsewhere.

Calm down 2025 regdate, I'm literally on your side.

 

[holyhandgrenade]

why do the VP and Def Sec have to talk about war plans on a messaging app that people without military clearances are on and can easily be brought into by accident or on purpose?

the most unbelievable part about this is that boomer government officials were using a messaging app that deletes texts automagically and not constantly boomering it. If you had told me that one of them accidentally added his mistress (or gay lover) to the group chat I might believe you, but a journo? A journo at a hostile "news" organization no less? Come on now.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

In your suggested example, they literally are an enemy. The State should not permit children mutilations. Anyone who advocates that the State has no role in this is an enemy, for they are advocating for the destruction of your civilization.

I feel like decades of propaganda disguised as entertainment a lack of concrete moral education has made most of the world fucking retarded and scared to stand by principles or call out moral rot.

It’s why I hate Libertarians the most.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I think it's fucked up that America is dictating to the lower class what they can and cannot put in their bodies. This is no different from when they were enforcing the vaccine on everyone, where are the truckers out protesting this appalling overreach of authority? Let's get out there and call on Congress to Dew it Right™

Party on, grocerygoblin.

 

[Noom Boom]

I hate the idea that because something is difficult or may cause people to be sad it shouldn't be done. Getting rid of fraud is one part of this, but limiting SNAP benefits to necessary items is the other and if the huge multinational corporations are also a part of this spiral of people living off of taxpayer funds then they should also adapt or die.

Once again, I am not for taking away SNAP in full as of now no matter what hyperbolic shitposts I may make, but it does need to be reorganized to do away with the amount of obvious misuse and just pure destruction that the poor do to themselves through taxpayer funds. Reorganizing SNAP to be more like WIC is something that we should try and I believe it would be beneficial to both the recipient and the taxpayer.

You mean something like requiring 90% of funds be used in group one where things like produce, dairy, grains, etc are and the other 10% allowed for group two where soda, candy, etc are?

That would interfere with people using their own money and would open up the door for shit like red meat taxes or saturated fat taxes due to WEF vegan agenda bullshit.
Restricting processed food and drink for snap, with explicitly no restriction on whole food ingredients, does no such thing because people can just buy their junk themselves with their own money.
Just like what you can get covered by tax funded Healthcare is much more restrictive than simply paying out of pocket. This isn't hard to understand.

Well I think all Americans are fat as hell and could do with buying a little less soda, but I also think you should have the freedom to kill yourself in whatever stupid way you want. I could see something like the above being a decent compromise.

 

[Vonel]

People are STILL arguing over the SQ(soda question). Just drink water fatties it tastes great if you have the good stuff.

 

[UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid]

And Israel did take actions on their own. The ceasefire in Gaza fell apart soon after that conversation, the Houthis attacked Israel in retaliation, and the US was forced to immediately attack the Houthis. Exactly what Hegseth predicted would happen if their plans got leaked.

The journo and the guy who invited him to the chat are likely Israeli informants.

Israeli informants!? In the US government!? *pretends to be shocked*

That Pete Hegseth is quite the prognosticator. Where does he get such insights?

“DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH: When I was doing a series for Fox Nation I did an interview while getting tattooed by the only tattoo artist in Bethlehem.

I got Yehweh -- Jesus in Hebrew.

Also on my forearm I have a Benjamin Franklin, effectively, political cartoon from the 1760s. It's the Join or Die snake.

I've got Deus Vult -- God Wills It -- which was the cry of the Crusaders on my bicep.

I have a big flag with the AR-15 I carried in Iraq on my bicep.

Then on my shoulder I have my unit crest of who I served with in Iraq.

My entire pec is a Jerusalem cross. Israel, Christianity and my faith are things I care deeply about.”

 

[Historical Strelkov]

For anyone utterly confused as to why Trump would include a reporter in "a high level meeting on signal."

 

[God's drunkest driver]

My son once ruined his gym shirt by leaving half a peanut butter cookie on top of it in his backpack; the grease stain never came out.

Not a very salient argument for the quality of the food. If your home made cookies wouldn't do the same thing they're dry as hell like shelf stable junk. My home made scratch baked cookies have a bunch of butter in them and they'll ruin your clothes if you let them set there all day too, they're cookies, they aren't supposed to be healthy because they aren't supposed to be eaten regularly. Personally I don't give a crap about this school lunch argument, school lunches are for kids whose parents are "too busy" for them (bullshit) or are absent. If my children got a school lunch, it would be because a catastrophe prevented my wife from making them lunch or meal prepping. What I don't want is my tax dollars funding shanqueesha's obese crotch goblins 2 gallons of soda per week, so this OH NO NOT THE HECKIN SODA thing needs to die on the vine.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I enjoy soda, I simply exercise and diet appropriately.

I think we should cut all welfare benefits including food stamps and nothing should be subsidized in the grocery store.

We should just end SNAP in general and allow people to get basics like rice and beans, and other staples, from food pantries using more efficient direct to consumer approaches. No one goes hungry, but you don't watch well unless you work.

t. Guy who was raised on food stamps when times were tough

 

[tehpope]

JD Vance Explains Trump's Vision To Undo 40 Years Of Failed Globalization​

“The first is assuming that we can separate the making of things from the design of things. The idea of globalization was that rich countries would move further up the value chain, while the poor countries made the simpler things,” continued the Vice President.

“But we got it wrong. It turns out the geographies that manufacture get awfully good at the designing. There are network effects. The firms that design products work with firms that manufacture. They share intellectual property, best practices, and even sometimes share critical employees,” he said, America’s great business builders in attendance.

“We assumed other nations would always trail us in the value chain, but it turns out that as they got better at the low end, they also started catching up on the higher end. We were squeezed from both ends.”

US economic ideology is undergoing a profound shift, and hardening, it’s a vast experiment of enormous consequence.

“The second conceit is that cheap labor is fundamentally a crutch, and it’s a crutch that inhibits innovation. If you can make a product more cheaply, it’s far too easy to do that rather than to innovate,” he said. “Whether we were offshoring factories to cheap labor economies or importing cheap labor through our immigration system, cheap labor became the drug of Western economies,” he said.

“And if you look in nearly every country, from Canada to the UK, that imported large amounts of cheap labor, you’ve seen productivity stagnate. The connection is very direct,” said Vance.

“The fundamental goal of President Trump’s economic policy is to undo 40 years of failed economic policy in this country. For far too long, we got addicted to cheap labor and we got lazy. We overregulated our industries instead of supporting them. We overtaxed innovators, instead of making easier for them to build great companies, and we made it way too hard to build things and invest in things in the USA.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/jd-vance-explains-trumps-vision-undo-40-years-failed-globalization

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-the-vice-president-the-american-dynamism-summit

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

You mean something like requiring 90% of funds be used in group one where things like produce, dairy, grains, etc are and the other 10% allowed for group two where soda, candy, etc are?

So 10% of Medicare spending should be allowed for cosmetic surgery like boob jobs and face lifts?
I see no reason why not allowing actual trash on snap is impeding on anyone's freedoms. Just use your own money. Like everyone else.
That said if they did "only 10% for processed foods the other 90% must be used for whole food ingredients only" I wouldn't be that mad about it. It would at least probably be an improvement to the current "60% of what people are eating is hyperprocessed". Even more in the case of children by the way.

Edit: I can see the percentage cutoff being a logistic nightmare though. Though perhaps there'd be an easy way to do it.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

OK, let's actually lay it out.

For the most part, nobody REALLY cares about the family who grabs a case of soda and maybe a little junk food for the kids, while buying regular groceries for the rest of the month, saving some back for fresh vegetables, loaves of bread, stuff like that for the rest of the month.

What you're REALLY mad about is thse people who are 4th and 5th Generation Welfare and SNAP grabbers, who get THOUSANDS of dollar in benefits because they are part of groups that no how to leverage their situation into the MOST benefits.

You aren't mad at Sally at the trailer park or Jaquanda in the projects.

THIS is who you're sick of.

The ones that have an entire system who support her using her SNAP for shit that is forbidden for most people, with five to ten times the amount that everyone else gets. The ones who just stay pregnant and know EXACTLY when to have a kid to maximize the benefits.

--EDIT--

That's like the illegal daycares that have like 4-6 little shitheads running around squalling. Depending on the state you could get $250 per kid per week back in the early 2000's, so who knows what it's like now. The illegal daycare can sometimes get SNAP pushes, get all the state shit despite not being certified or anything like that. They kick back some of the weekly check to the mother so she gets even MORE for having kids.

Having a parent who isn't on assistance (or some st ates allow it) watch the kids, the parent gets the check and often splits it.

Most of these people don't have to push too much for cash. TANF provides the cash, its usually the addicts selling access to their card and that isn't till later in the month. (Plenty of Habeeb run stores will let you buy smokes with EBT, same with beer. "Buy 12 boxes of Lemonheads for $15 and get a free pack of cigarettes" scam)

It's the fact that certain segments of the population (Illegal immigrants, ghetto dwellers, barrio smugglers, white trash) all view this stuff as their due.

EBT
TANF
WIC
Sec-8
Medicaid
Utilities 4 All (or its equivalent)
Taxi services, bus and transit tickets, paid for Uber cards, etc.

They view all of that as their due and have been threatening riots for decades if they're cut.

Admit it, you don't care about someone who lost their job and are busting their ass trying to get another one having a soda or two.

You're pissed at the ones who have done nothing but live off of it all their lives.

From cradle to fucking grave.

 

[Terrifik]

all acording plan kamala or AOC for 2028
beyond that hillary could run for 2028 & win

https://x.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1904303284606951634/photo/1

fake title TLDR- blame the boomers

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