What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

This feels peculiar, like a test run to see how an idea spreads
I will agree with you on this. I don’t use FB except for business, and the only pages my business interacts with are other industry related pages.

My feed is FLOODED with posts about the structures under the pyramids. Not just articles about it, you’ve got fringe pages posting AI images of what is under them followed by 2 ads and then a post discussing the AI images in a “is this AI” type group.

It’s astroturfed as fuck.

Thread tax kinda - does anyone happen to recall a Sandy Hook related clip where on of the parents talks about holding the body of his child? Pretty sure it was a 40 y/o white male speaker.
 
I might have stumbled across a new one. I think there's something kinda fucky going on with the whole 'evolution' thing. I'm not saying I don't believe it, but I do think it's been rather co-opted by people with an ideological interest in pushing atheism. If you question evolution people seem to have no qualms about shaming you for it - treating like you're some kind of fucking retard - but shouldn't we at least be able to have the discussion? That kinda puts my back up. They do that with trannies and the Holocaust as well. The minute people want to try and stop the discussion from happening, or shame or insult you for even wanting to have it, that seems... I dunno. A bit sus?

I got to thinking about the claim that we humans share a common ancestor with chimps, gorillas and other great apes, and I wondered what that common ancestor was. Upon Googling it, it turns out that we actually know very little with regards to the evolution of great apes as there are very large gaps in the fossil records for chimps, gorillas, orangutans and such. I know about gigantopithecus, of course (WE WUZ KING KONGZ AN SHEEEIT) but I can't think of any other prehistoric apes that aren’t hominids.

Apparently, the reason for this is because most apes live in jungles, which means that the fossils left behind are often not very well preserved because of the environment.

Which is convenient.

And a bit peculiar, considering we can find fossil evidence of countless other species in far less hospitable places. We can find spinosaurus fossils at the bottom of filth-encrusted muddy swamps full of algae and stuff, but our closest genetic ancestor? Yeah, no, sorry, mate. Jungles are no good for preserving fossils, whattayagonnado? 🤷‍♀️

I went onto Reddit (some might say that was my first mistake...) and was confronted by this shit:

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"First of all, do you accept evolution as your personal Lord and Saviour, Darwin be praised?"

How can you talk like that, and then pretend that you're any different from/superior to a religious person?
 
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Do you know how hard it would be for O’Neil to accidentally avoid talking about The Process Church of the Final Judgement regarding the Manson murders? That’s quite the elephant in the room.

I liked Chaos, but when that dog didn’t bark I knew O’Neil was not being fully forthcoming.
The book was also slop.
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Tom O'Neill had access and wasted it, whereas Dave McGowan was better at crediting the work of others and did more with less. He wasn't perfect and was too ideologically captured for me, but CHAOS disappointed me as one already familiar with Programmed to Kill and Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon.
 
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I might have stumbled across a new one. I think there's something kinda fucky going on with the whole 'evolution' thing. I'm not saying I don't believe it, but I do think it's been rather co-opted by people with an ideological interest in pushing atheism. If you question evolution people seem to have no qualms about shaming you for it - treating like you're some kind of fucking retard - but shouldn't we at least be able to have the discussion? That kinda puts my back up. They do that with trannies and the Holocaust as well. The minute people want to try and stop the discussion from happening, or shame or insult you for even wanting to have it, that seems... I dunno. A bit sus?
Evolution is simply a product of the science™️ industry, it was invented as a result of the enlightenment, excitement over fossil findings, and colonialism.

Most arguments for evolution fall flat on its face. Same with the old earth theory. We haven’t even found the missing link yet (Al Weezy doesn’t count) and geological structures are constantly changing in shape and collapsing all the time. It’s all phony baloney if you ask me. If you find the time read The Invention of Prehistory.
 
Im still waiting to find out where Mcgowan came up with the La'bianca were amphetamine dealers tidbit from?
 
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Evolution is simply a product of the science™️ industry, it was invented as a result of the enlightenment, excitement over fossil findings, and colonialism.

Most arguments for evolution fall flat on its face. Same with the old earth theory. We haven’t even found the missing link yet (Al Weezy doesn’t count) and geological structures are constantly changing in shape and collapsing all the time. It’s all phony baloney if you ask me. If you find the time read The Invention of Prehistory.
you DO know the difference between "evolution" as a concept, and Darwin's theory of evolution
right?
 
Im still waiting to find out where Mcgowan came up with the La'bianca were amphetamine dealers tidbit from?
Four of the LAPD’s top initial suspects in the Tate murder case were members of Cass Elliot’s inner circle. They remained prime suspects for the first month of the investigation. One member of that circle was Pic Dawson, the flamboyant son of a U.S. State Department official and an on-andoff boyfriend of Cass. Dawson had lived in the home of victims Frykowski and Folger in the summer before the killings while the illfated pair house-sat for the Polanskis at the future crime scene: 10050 Cielo Drive, later renumbered, appropriately enough, 10066 Cielo Drive. Another connection between killers and victims was provided by their shared interest in drug trafficking. Several of the victims—including Voytek Frykowski, Abigail Folger, and Sharon Tate herself—were linked to the trafficking of hallucinogens. Rosemary LaBianca was a known trafficker of methamphetamine, and likely other drugs as well. Frykowski had reportedly secured a deal just before the murders that would have made him the exclusive distributor of MDA in the L.A. area, his operations financed with coffee heiress Folger’s considerable financial resources. Jay Sebring, who before the murders had once appeared in an underground movie that also featured Mansonite Bobby Beausoleil, appears to have been involved in the drug trade as well. A man named Joel Rostau is known to have delivered drugs to Sebring at the Cielo house just hours before the murders. Rostau was found murdered the next year in New York City. Another Sebring associate showed up dead just a month later in Florida. Immediately following the killings on Cielo Drive, Sebring’s house was thoroughly cleaned by friends before police arrived to conduct a search.
from PTK
Initially, police had suspected that the murders at the Tate house were a drug deal gone bad. After searching the house, they found small amounts of drugs all over the premises, including in Sebring’s car.

Wojciech Frykowski was a known user who frequently played with cocaine, mescaline, marijuana and LSD. After their autopsy, both Frykowski and Folger had MDA, a psychedelic amphetamine, in their blood streams. But the crime scene was simply too bloody for any of that to make sense.

Moreover, another murder had popped up the day after at the estate of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, a married couple who owned a chain of grocery stores in LA.

Just like the killings at the Tate house, the killers left a message in blood, this time it read “HEALTER SKELTER,” a misspelling of the Manson gospel.
Rosemary had a more unconventional childhood. She may have been born in Mexico, in 1930, lived in an orphanage in Arizona until she was 12, and was adopted by a California couple by the name of Harmon. Like Leno, Rosemary married and had children, but in 1958, she too divorced.

By 1969 Leno and Rosemary LaBianca oversaw a mixed family that had become increasingly the norm in the United States, as attitudes about divorce shifted. Leno continued to work in the grocery industry; Rosemary co-founded a high-end clothing store. They often spent time with each other’s children, who, by the time of the murders, were teenagers and young adults.
SECOND HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION PROGRESS REPORT
(Report covering September 1 - October 15) DR 69-586 381
DECEASED:
LA BIANCA, Leno A. (CC #69-8859)
LA BIANCA, Rosemary (CC #69-8860)
DATE AND TIME OCCURRED: August 10, 1969, 0200/2230 Hours
LOCATION OF OCCURRENCE: 3301 Waverly Drive
DIVISION OF OCCURRENCE: Hollywood Division R/D 635
TO: Lt. P. B. LePage, Supervisor of Investigations, Robbery-Homicide Div.


SIR: The investigation into the La Bianca murders was divided into areas to facilitate a thorough examination of each aspect of the case. Portions of these areas have, and are presently being examined. There are also aspects of each area that will be investigated in the future. This report will detail what has, is and will be done in each area.

ROSEMARY LA BIANCA
Although it cannot be verified, it is believed that Rosemary La Bianca was born in Mexico. She was separated from her parents and resided in an orphanage in Arizona until age twelve. A Mrs. Carman, now deceased, is reported to have been a friend of Rosemary's mother and the Harmon family. Carman influenced the Harmons to adopt Rosemary and she lived with them in the Fullerton area. She left Fullerton and lived in the San Diego area during the early 1940's. She later moved to Long Beach where she lived with a Reba Gage. In 1944 she was employed by Consolidated Steel in Long Beach. While working for this company she met Henry Martin.
Henry Martin, A construction business owner, was interviewed at Parker Center and will be polygraphed at a later date. Martin supplied officers with the above information on Rosemary's past. He knew Reba Gage as Ione Gage. Rosemary, at the time, was using the name Rosemary Harmon.
Martin was aware of Rosemary's love affair with Charles Ray LaBerge prior to, and during the time he, Martin, and Rosemary were dating. After the war (1946), Martin supported Rosemary. A short time later, they broke up and Rosemary began going with LaBerge.
Rosemary contacted Martin in 1948 and told him she was pregnant by LaBerge. Martin and Rosemary moved into an apartment and lived as man and wife until Suzan Struthers was born.
Martin left on business several months after Susan's birth. He later learned that while away in Alaska Rosemary left their apartment, taking all the furniture and two new vehicles which were jointly owned Martin did not notify the police because he could afford the loss and was "still in love with Rosemary." Among other items taken by Rosemary was a $2,000 (face value) silver dollar collection.
Rosemary again contacted Martin in 1950 and asked forgiveness. Since he was still in love with her he offered her another apartment which they shared until 1951.
Martin asked Rosemary to marry him. However, she declined and their relationship ended.
Four years ago (1965) Rosemary contacted Martin by telephone and informed him she had married Leno LaBianca. She invited him to her home to meet Leno; however, Martin declined. That was the last time he heard from Rosemary.
Martin supplied investigators with a list of Rosemary's female friends whom he suspected were lesbians. This list included Ione Reba Gage, AKA: Reba "Ski" Young; Beatrice Lee, AKA: "Pudgy"; "Marty" Martin; Charlene Abernathy, AKA: "Charlie" and Ellen Varney.
Although Rosemary showed no evidence of lesbianism, Martin believed that she participated in affairs with lone Gage and others.
Ellen Varney was contacted in Sacramento. She informed investigators that lone Gage was deceased. When questioned about Rosemary's affection toward Ione Gage, Ellen Varney denied either were involved in that type of love affair. This denial, however, was contradictory to statements by Frank Martin, Charles LaBerge, Frank Struthers, and Jack Mynatt.
Ellen Varney, it appeared, was not truthful with investigators as to Rosemary's and Ione Gage's affair. This could be due to the fact that she, Varney, now a married woman, had herself been involved with a lesbian, Charlene Abernathy.
A personal interview with Ellen Varney is planned in the future while investigators are in Sacramento obtaining statistical information from CII pertaining to suspects.
Charles Ray LeBerge was interviewed and polygraphed in San Diego. He showed no guilty knowledge of the crime. He reported meeting Rosemary in 1945. He lived with her periodically until 1949. She had a child by LaBerge in February 1948, Susan Struthers. He took her to Mexico during this period and they were married. However, the marriage was invalid as LaBerge was legally married to someone else at the time. LaBerge claimed he continued to see her until 1959 when he left for Texas. He was gone one year and when he returned, was unable to locate her as she had married and he couldn't ascertain her newly acquired name. She had their child, Susan Struthers, living with her. He learned of Rosemary's death from Ellen Varney. LaBerge admitted he was seeing her during her marriage to Frank Struthers. LaBerge believed there was a possibility that she was bisexuel. She had lived with and had been a close friend of Ski Young (Reba Gage), a lesbian. LaBerge claimed he has always been in love with Rosemary. He denied she came to San Diego to visit him and also denied seeing her during her marriage to Leno LaBianca.
Frank Struthers Sr. was interviewed and polygraphed at Parker Center. He showed no guilty knowledge of the crime. He met Rosemary in 1949 while she was a "car hop" at the Brown Derby Drive-In on Los Feliz Blvd. He started dating her in 1950 and they were married in 1952. They had one child Frank Jr., born in 1954. Rosemary's daughter, Susan, lived with them. They were divorced in 1958. Struthers was not aware that Rosemary was seeing LaBerge while they were married. He was aware that she dated Sam Frank, a bartender at the Burl Room where she worked as a waitress. Struthers knew that Rosemary had gone with Laberge. He also recalled that prior to marrying him, she was going to marry someone he knew only as "Hank" (Henry Martin), but she jilted Hank at the last minute. Rosemary also dated a LAPD officer who worked Hollywood Division and a Frank Dosset (phonetic). These two people have not been identified. Rosemary was working as a waitress at the Los Feliz Inn when she met and married Leno LaBianca in 1959. She also worked part time at the Roger Young Auditorium as a waitress. Struthers works as a bartender and has custody of their son, Frank Struthers Jr. Heresay information is that Struthers expects his son will receive a large sum of money from the LaBiancas' death.
LaBerge is employed as a mail carrier in the San Diego area. He has a part time job as a producer/director of a small acting company. LaBerge informed investigators that he once had a conversation with a mutual friend of his and Rosemary's, Jack Mynatt, and that Mynatt claimed he had an affair with Rosemary.
Jack Arthur Mynatt was interviewed at his place of business, the A-C Paving Company, 2901 Worthen Ave., Los Angeles. He denied having an affair with Rosemary. He agreed with LaBerge's remarks that she could have been bisexual. He based the possibility on Rosemary's close friendship with Reba Gage. Mynatt met Rosemary through his wife, Sandy. Sandy divorced Mynatt, remarried and is now Sandy Gwynn. Mynatt believes Sandy was a close friend of Rosemary. Sandy has not yet been interviewed. Mynatt and his wife socialized with Leno and Rosemary between 1962 and 1968. The socializing ceased when Mynatt divorced Sandy. Mynatt first met Rosemary in 1946, but never socialized with her until her marriage to LaBianca.
Mynatt and Leno formed a corporation called MYCA Construction Company, this was in 1963 and their address at the time was 1724 E. Street (possibly Louis Street), Las Vegas, Nevada. Mynatt was the president of the corporation. This is discussed in detail under Leno LaBianca. Mynatt suspected Rosemary was having an affair with Frank Struthers during her marriage to Leno. Struthers denied this.
Martin, LeBerge, and Struthers described Rosemary as a sexually "active" woman. Susan Struthers described Rosemary and Leno as "sexually conservative": Susan said her parents bedroom door was always open and she was never aware of them having a sex act. There is the possibility that Rosemary was having an affair but this has not been verified.
Lucille Ellen Larsen is the owner of Lucy's Pet Shop, 2524 Hyperion. She claimed to be a close friend of Rosemary. She is a friend of Charlene Abernathy, AKA: Charlie, a lesbian, who was also a friend of Rosemary. Larsen said she and Rosemary had long talks about the problems Rosemary had with Susan. Rosemary supposedly favored Frank Jr. Larsen recalled Rosemary being in the insurance and real estate business. Rosemary played the stock market and had an exclusive interest in commodities. She believed Rosemary's Dress Shop business was successful. Larsen had no idea who killed the LaBiancas. She recalled Rosemary once making the statement "someone is coming in our house while we're away." Larsen suggested it might have been the children or their friends. Rosemary said she had questioned them and was satisfied it was not the children or their friends. Larsen asked Rosemary how she knew someone was coming into her home. Rosemary replied, "Things have been gone through and the dogs are in the house when they should be outside or visa versa." This was first mentioned prior to 1968. There were reported burglaries at the LaBianca residence yet it is common knowledge that Rosemary left the keys to her car and the house in her Thunderbird, which was usually parked in the rear of the house.
LENO LA BIANCA
Prior to his marriage to Rosemary, Leno was married to the present Mildred Alice Findley, a CPA. Investigators have not yet interviewed Mrs. Findley or her three children. Leno was the father of these children. After his divorce from Findley, Leno supposedly dated several women. Investigators have only been able to locate one.
Peggy Ann McClellan first met Leno in 1952 when they bowled on a team sponsored by the Sons of Italy. McClellan's husband, Benny Giampietro, was a friend of Leno's. McClellan did not date Leno until 1957. She described him as a bashful and sexually cold. She recalled he was selfconscious of his height around women who were taller than himself. She last saw Leno in 1963; however, she had not dated him since her marriage in October 1958.
In his first interview Roxie Lucerelli stated that Leno had received a telephone call from a female stating she was in trouble and wanted to meet with Leno. Lucerelli further added that Linc Warman, a friend of Leno's, knew about the telephone call and the girl was supposedly a Hollywood prostitute. Linc Warman was interviewed regarding this female. He could not recall any such conversation with Leno regarding this particular person. However, he did state that Leno had a girl friend, approximately ten years ago, who was possibly a prostitute. He could not recall her name nor could he supply investigators with an address. A further check of possible girl friends was conducted by reviewing Leno's personal telephone book with negative results. This phase of the investigation is continuing in order to determine if he had a code by which he would conceal their names. Investigators found that Peggy McClellan's name was listed in the book.
Ray Norwood, treasurer-controller for Gateway Markets, was interviewed and polygraphed at Parker Center. The polygraph showed he had no guilty knowledge of the crime. He has been an employee of the company for 23 years. He admitted knowing that Leno LaBianca had been taking money from the company for the past 8 or 9 years. He estimated that between 1961-2 and 1966, Leno had taken $80,000 from the company. This amount was over and above his salary and normal expenses. There was an additional documented $43,000 taken by Leno between 1966 and 1969. It was Leno's habit to take $1,500 once or twice a week from the company. The money was taken in two ways. Leno would go to one of the markets, take cash and fill out a voucher in duplicate showing he had taken the money. The copy went from the store to the main office. Leno retained the original copy and later surrendered it to Norwood. Norwood was therefore not involved and commented that whatever Leno did he did alone. The other method Leno used to obtain "extra" money was to instruct Narwood to make out a check to him, Leno. Norwood had possession of the checks but could not make or sign them. Dolores Brown, Leno's secretary, was the only person who could make out the checks and Leno was the only one authorized to sign them. Norwood would give Brown a check, have her make it out and then return it to Leno for him to sign and cash. Leno had complete control of the check system. Leno did repay some of the money he took. He returned $15,000 in December 1966 and $30,000 in June 1969.
Leno did not get along with Peter Smaldino, the third partner in the firm. Leno complained to Norwood that Smaldino "kept his eye on everything he did." The company sold some of their stores to Mayfair Markets Incorporated in 1964 and received $400,000 cash. The sale created a situation whereby the company would have to be paying the same number of executive salaries but with less income. It was decided that one of the three partners (LaBianca, Smaldino or DeSantis) would have to leave to reduce expenses. Smaldino agreed to leave but insisted that his stock be redeemed in cash. He was given $250,000.00 in cash. Norwood believed it was not a wise business move to give a partner so much currency but Leno did it to eliminate Smaldino. Leno was then able to do as he pleased as DeSantis was too busy with his lodge (Sons of Italy) work and never challenged Leno.
Peter Smaldino and his family have been friends of the LaBiancas for as long as he could remember. He and Leno worked together for Gateway Markets after the war. Leno worked mostly for State Wholesaler Grocers and he, Smaldino, worked or the retail end of the business, Gateway Markets. When Leno's father died, Leno became president of the corporation. Smaldino said he recognized Leno as the boss and always complied with his decisions. When the corporation sold some of its markets for a large cash amount, he left the corporation to become his own boss. While working at Gateway Markets he had purchased two liquor stores. He cashed out of the corporation and invested his money in other stores. Smaldino stated he got along well with Leno as a person although they did have business disagreements. He did not socialize with Leno even though he was married to one of his sisters. He was not aware that Leno was taking money from the company until Leno's mother informed him of the fact.
Smaldino was polygraphed but showed no guilty knowledge of the crime. He had no idea who murdered Leno but openly admitted he thought it might be the Mafia. His belief that the Mafia is responsible for the murder is based on his information that Leno was a heavy gambler and in debt. All of his information concerning Leno's activities was admittedly heresay.
Peter DeSantis, Leno's other brother-in-law, was interviewed and polygraphed at Parker Center. The polygraph exam indicated he had no guilty knowledge of the crime. DeSantis has been a life long friend of Leno and desceibed him as "family". They worked together at the market for Leno's father in the '40's. Leno later ran the operation of State Wholesale Grocers, a second company owned by Leno's father. Smaldino, another brother-in-law, ran the Gateway Market chain. When Leno's father died the two companies were then managed by Leno, although they remained separate. DeSantis believed Smaldino resented Leno's being the boss as he, Smaldino, knew more about the business. Smaldino kept a constant check on Leno's activities in the business and Leno resented Smaldino's "supervision"'. Leno once commented to Norwood, when discussing how he was taking money from the company by writing checks, that he couldn't have done it when Smaldino was around because Smaldino checked him too closely. Leno's mother was the first to tell DeSantis about Leno taking money from the company. DeSantis claimed he was shocked, as the two had discussed ways to cut expenses to help the company. Leno told DeSantis in June 1969 that he was going to leave the company. DeSantis discussed Leno's future plans with him. Leno told DeSantis ha had no definite plans for employment. He mentioned going into an investment situation with three other men. Each man was to put up $25,000. The only man in the group that Leno mentioned was Bill O'Brien. After Leno's death, DeSantis learned he was planning to buy a ranch for $127,000 in Vista, California. DeSantis couldn't understand where Leno was to get the money to purchase the property, pay back the money he had borrowed from the company and go into the investment business. DeSantis is the regional head of a fraternal organization, "The Sons of Italy". The region extends from Colorado to Hawaii. DeSantis refused the idea that the Mafia could have been responsible for the crime. He commented that if they had, he would probably have heard about it.
LENO's FINANCIAL AFFAIRS
The State Wholesale Grocery Company (DBA Gateway Markets) is a California Corporation chartered on August 9, 1930, with the authorized capital stock of 20 shares, $25 par value common stock.
The business originally was established by Antonio LaBianca in 1920. The operations were that of a wholesale grocer until 1954 when it changed to a holding company. In May of 1955 the company took over the operation of four supermarkets and operated them until 1958, when the company merged with Gateway Food Stores Incorporated, which operated seven markets.
Leno LaBianca, the son of Antonio, has been active in the business since completion of his education at U.S.C. Leno has been president since 1952.
The State Wholesale Grocery Company grew under the leadership of Leno to a maximum of nine stores. In 1963 the company sold five of the nine stores to Mayfair Market. The company retained the four remaining markets and established its headquarters at 2619 N. Figueroa.
The company's financial background was stable and profitable over this period of time until 1962. According to Mr. Norwood, the company's treasurer, it was at this time that Leno began taking salary advances in excess of his own salary and expenses.
On December 17, 1962, Leno purchased a home at 4053 Woking Way for $62,100.00. This amount of money was borrowed from Title Insurance Company. The property was sold on November 12, 1968 for $120,000 and Leno carried a second trust deed for $10,000 on the property. Leno then acquired the property at 3301 Waverly Drive which had been the LaBianca family home. He acquired this location for $18,000 from his mother. In 1965 he obtained a loan from Home Savings & Loan Association for $40,000 and used his residence as collateral.
It was in 1962 that Leno made plans to rebuild the market at 2619 N. Figueroa. The money for this improvement was acquired from Summit Finance Company in Glendale, California. The Summit Finance Company first made a loan of $100,000 on July 15, 1966. This money was secured with ten lots in the Highland Park area and a second trust deed on the warehouse and land in Vernon, California. The balance to complete the improvements was $300,000 and this was provided by Summit Finance Company on November 22, 1966. The collateral for this loan was the same as used for the $100,000 loan.
A personal loan was made to Leno in 1965 by the same Company for $25,000. This particular loan was renewed in 1968 and Leno used 1,000 shares of Gateway stuck as collateral. The purpose for this loan as listed on the credit request was to pay for existing indebtedness.
On September 20, 1964, Leno purchased property at 2279-83 Glendale Blvd. He borrowed the money to make the purchase from Atlantic Savings Loan Company. The original amount borrowed was $32,000 and at present the principal is $28,246.19. During this period of time there was no second trust deed on the property, but on June 24, 1969, a $9,000 trust deed was acquired by Mr. Don Porter against the property. This particular transaction regarding the second trust deed was handled by Roxie Lucerelli through the Atlas Escrow Company.
In 1964, Leno invested an undetermined amount of money in the Hollywood National bank. He was else appointed a board member and served as such from 1964 to February 1967. The bank fell into financial difficulty in 1967 and Leno sold his interest and resigned his position. According to the records of the bank, a loan of $15,000 was made on June 24, 1969 to Leno and the purpose of this loan was listed as business.
The Gateway Markets sold money orders and this service was provided through the Golden State bank. The policy is that the market is to turn in the cash from the money order sales every three days, since the money is the property of the bank. Leno had been negligent in turning the money over to the bank and in January 1968 was contacted by the bank to explain his tardiness. In order to retify the problem, it was necessary to obtain a loan. Leno owed the bank $120,000. He paid a portion of that amount and took out a loan for $40,000 on the remaining balance. The loan balance as of August 20, 1969 is $8,507.88. Information received from G. F. Holt, Golden State Bank (I# 115).
Although Leno transacted business at numerous locations, his main account was located at the Bank of America, Lincoln Heights Branch. It was at this bank that Leno had his business account, personal checking account and safe deposit box. Leno had a loan of $5,000 awarded him on March 19, 1969. He reduced the loan on June 24, 1969 by $1,000 and renewed it for $4,000 and 9 ½% interest. Mr. Hartnack, bank manager, indicated that Leno had approached him for a loan at numerous times. Hartnack had indications that Leno was in financial trouble, but Leno would not confide in him as to the problem.
The Atwater Branch of Crocker Citizen's National Bank Shows on its records a savings account for Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. This savings account was open in 1967 and at one time had a balance of $997.17 but on May 14, 1969 the balance, which was then $425, was withdrawn, leaving a zero balance.
Mr. Norwood, the treasurer for Gateway Markets, was aware of Leno's heavy drawing from the company funds and also of his existing indebtedness, as mentioned above. These facts were then made known to Leno's mother, who owns stock in the company, as well as the remaining stockholders.
An audit was conducted by Mr. Norwood and the amount owed by Leno was in excess of $100,000. Leno made efforts to repay the money and returned approximately $30,000. It was evident that Leno could not repay the entire amount, therefore, it was agreed upon by the stockholders that Leno would sell his investments in the company. His stock consisted of 1,519 shares of class A, non-voting stock and 1,744 shares of class B, voting stock.
The agreement was that Leno would sell all of his rights, title and interest and 1,941 shares of capital stock. The total purchase price for said stock would be $77,640. One thousand dollars would be paid on the execution of the agreement and the balance would be paid in monthly installments of $1,000 with the entire unpaid balance due five years. These conditions of sale were drawn up by Mr. Alphson, Attorney at Law, under the sole direction of Leno LaBianca. Although Leno was selling 1,941 shares, it must be remembered, that 1,000 of said shares were being held as collateral on a personal loan through Summit Finance Company. It was therefore Leno's responsibility, in order that the agreement be consumated, that he obtain a loan in the approximate amount of $16,300 in order to reacquire the shares.
A true value of each share in Gateway Company would be extremely difficult to ascertain correctly. The company is a closed corporation, therefore, only approximates can be reached. The total value of Leno's interest in the company is valued at approximately $100,000. This is based on a value of $40 per share. Even though this entire sales agreement had been drawn up and presented to the buyers, it was never executed. DeSantis recalled Leno leaving the document on his desk with a note instructing him to look it over. DeSantis never had the opportunity to discuss it with Leno. There was to have been a meeting of the stockholders (mainly Leao, DeSantis, and Leno's mother) for Saturday, August 9, but it never took place. DeSantis read the document and considered it absurd. The shares of stock and the terms would not compensate for the amount Leno had taken. DeSantis concluded that the document was merely a bargaining point. Conversely, DeSantis was aware of Mrs. LaBianca's feelings for Leno and he surmised she would be generous to her son even though he did not deserve it.
The boat owned by the LaBiancas was purchased and financed in San Diego. It seemed unusual that a boat would be purchased while they were on vacation, however, Susan Struthers stated Leno would often make impulsive purchases. The boat was purchased from Dana Marina Inc., Yacht City, Bahia Boat Works, 2590 Ingraham, San Diego, (714) 224-3221. Date of sale, August 18, 1968. Delivered August 19, 1968. Total price, including trailer, license, etc. was $3,050.00. The loan was made through the Ocean Beach Branch of the Bank of America. Emma Bumbaugh, a bank employee, handled the loan. Donald D. Erickson, Manager of the bank, was interviewed. The loan application listed $50 cash paid by the LaBiancas with a $3,000 loan payable at $98.33 per month for 36 months. Present balance, $2,400.00 including interest. Cory LaBianca, daughter of Leno by his previous marriage, contacted the bank and informed them of Leno's death. The boat was sold this month (October 1969) by Susan Struthers. Lt. Hellmick, San Diego Police Department Intelligence Unit was contacted for information on Mafia activity in the Mission Bay area, in particular the location where the LaBiancas purchased their boat. His information was that there was "Jewish Mafia money" in the motels but Dana Marina Incorporated was a legitimate operation.
THE COIN COLLECTION
During the investigation it was learned that Leno LaBianca had displayed a large coin collection to Roxie Lucarelli and afforded him the opportunity to purchase the collection which presumably was valued in excess of $20,000. The fact that Leno was a numismatist was widely known fact by his friends and relatives. Mr. Norwood was shown the collection in March 1967 and at that time Leno had two or three suitcases full of uncirculated silver dollars, which had a face value of $3,000. Leno also had several books full of various coins. Sometime during July 1969, Leno informed Norwood that he had sold his silver dollar collection with the exception of some coins, which had a face value of $400.
NOTE: Four hundred dollars in uncirculated nickels were recovered from the trunk of Leno's vehicle.
In order to positively ascertain whether the collection was sold and to whom, numerous coin shops were checked in the Los Angeles area. The coin shops checked were obtained from business cards and other memorandums found in the personal effects of Leno LaBianca.
Investigators contacted Don Sherer, executive secretary, American Numismatic Association. The only information he had was the confirmation of Leno's membership; card #46808. Agent Richard Cameron, United States Secret Service Coin Operations, was contacted but unable to give any worthwhile assistance.
The Coin Gallery Coin Shop, 228 N. Beverly Dr. - Jerry Cohen, the proprietor, checked his active and inactive records and could find no sales transaction conducted under the name of Leno LaBianca.
Superior Coin & Stamp Shop, 517 W. 7th Street, Los Angeles - Mrs. Larry Goldberg, one of the owners, acknowledged that he had numerous business transactions with Leno LaBianca. Their business dealings took place over a long period of time. Leno had purchased many thousands of dollars of coins and the last purchase was in 1965 or 1966. This transaction involved approximately $5,000 worth of coins.
Joe Flynn Sr. Coin Company, 2812 W. 47th Street, Kansas City - Mr. Flynn was contacted via telephone and by the Kansas City Police Department (per our request). He examined his records and could find no indication that Leno LaBianca had made purchases from his store. Mr. Flynn did state that it was not unusual for his business card to be in the possession of someone in Los Angeles since he attends coin conventions in the Los Angeles area. He opined that possibly Leno met his at such a convention, but no sale was made.
Los Feliz Coin Shop, 5611 Hollywood Blvd. - Mr. Fred Bass, who owns the coin shop, is an acquaintance of Leno LaBianca. Mr. Bass went to the LaBianca residence in January 1969 and appraised a part of Leno's collection lt $10,000. Bass describes Leno's collection as "mint coins", both foreign and domestic. The last business transaction Mr. Bass had with Leno was the sale, by Bass of a 1009s Indian head penny for $250.
Investigators personally contacted the owners of fifteen coin shops in the San Diego area. A photograph of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca was shown to each person interviewed. The nature of the crime and the information concerning the coin collection was discussed with the owners. Investigators did not receive any information that would indicate Leno LaBianca sold portions of his collection in the San Diego area. Photographs of the victims were left with the larger coin buyers and it was requested that they show the photographs to dealers in other cities and states. Investigators were assured of cooperation by each person interviewed.
While in the San Diego area, investigators checked the registration list at the Bahia Motor Motel. It was learned that the LaBiancas had been guests at the motel for two week periods during the summer for the past seven or eight years. They stayed at the motel in 1968 from August 16, to August 26. A copy of their out-going phone calls was obtained and the phone numbers checked in an attempt to ascertain if Leno had contacted a bookmaker, coin dealer, or someone unknown to investigators. The results of this investigation were negative. The LaBiancas wrote the motel on November 12, 1968 requesting reservations for the period August 15 to 31, 1969. This reservation was cancelled by Cory LaBianca on August 15, 1969. It was during the 1968 vacation period at the Bahia that the LaBiancas purchased the boat mentioned earlier in the report.
Leno LaBianca owned eight horses in January 1969. He first purchased two horses in 1966 at a total cost of $4,888. Two more horses were purchased in 1967 at a cost of $7,350. Seven horses were purchased by Leno in 1968 for $18,361. Leno had a total of $30,800 invested in race horses alone. He sold two horses and had one put to sleep in 1968 for a total loss of $2,365. His 1968 income tax return reflects a total expense for the horses in excess of $15,000. It is unknown what, if any, profits were derived from these horses to offset the aforementioned expense. The horses were listed as owned under Arnel Stables, 2623 N. Figueroa, Los Angeles.
Myca Corporation, an investment entered into by Leno and Jack Mynatt in 1963, was a financial loss for Leno. Mynatt, a contractor dealing in paving and cement work, was a social acquaintance of Leno. Leno approached Mynatt with a business offer wherein Leno was to supply the capital and Mynatt the equipment. Mynatt would select the project with Leno's approval. Mynatt contracted to handle the foundation work on a housing track in Las Vegas. The owner of the land and the builder of the tract was unable to meet his financial obligations and Myca Corporation took over the operation. Leno originally invested $2,000 and later $10,000 when Myca Corporation took over the tract. Leno put another $3,000 into the corporation, but this was not sufficient to rectify the corporation's financial problems. Mynatt requested additional money from Leno to keep the operation going but Leno was skeptical. Leno left the corporation taking a $15,000 loss. Leno was in the corporation for over a year. As an officer of the corporation, he was entitled to spend weekends in Las Vegas at the corporation's expense. His hotel bill, food, liquor and gambling markers up to $1,000 were charged to the corporation. Mynatt recalled Leno losing $500.00 one evening, but he didn't consider Leno a big gambler. This expense money was the only return received for his $15,000 investment. Mynatt could think of no one that was financially hurt because of Leno or Myca Corporation.
Leno is reported to own other property in the Las Vegas area. This information has not yet been verified but will be investigated in the near future.
RIVERSIDE PROPERTY INVESTMENT
According to Norwood, and later substantiated by DeSantis and Smaldino, Roxie Lucerelli informed them and Leno about a parcel of land in the Riverside County area which they could invest for greater profits. Each put up $15,000 cash to purchase this property. It is unknown if Lucerelli or his wife invested in the land. However, Leno, Smaldino, and DeSantis, after an unknown time sold their holdings to Gateway Markets for $75,000 apiece. Norwood believed that the sale was made payable to a "dummy" corporation. Norwood believed that the land is still valued at its original price.
Norwood, the treasurer of Gateway Markets, in discussing the accounts payable of Gateway Markets, told investigators that Leno wrote checks to an organization known as Almour Properties in Newport Beach. It is believed, but not yet verified, that Almour Properties is owned by Leno's ex-wife, Alice Findley. Norwood suspects that the money paid to this corporation was in fact Leno's child support payments. There is also the possibility that Almour Properties is a "dummy" corporation. One of the checks payable to Almour appears to have been endorsed by Leno, according to DeSantis. Investigators examined the check and were of the opinion that the endorsing signature, initials "M. A. Findley" was signed by Leno LaBianca. This will be thoroughly investigated with the assistance of the corporation commission.
CORINA LA BLANCA
Mrs. LaBianca, the mother of the deceased, Leno LaBianca, stated that in June 1969 Leno told her about the trouble he was having with the company money. Leno admitted he had taken about $75,000 from the company and could not make restitution. He asked for some of her stock to make up the shortages. She refused him the stock stating if she gave him stock she would have to give her two other children equal shares. She told Leno to pay off his debt with his shares and she would pay off the balance. She offered to give him extra shares once a year to assist him financially; however, Leno refused.
Mrs. LaBianca told Leno to inform Pete DeSantis about his financial problem. Sometime later Leno and DeSantis discussed the money shortage and a meeting was arranged of the principal stock holders to arrange Leno's departure from the business. This meeting was to have taken place in the first part of August; however, it never materialized.
Shortly after Mrs. LaBianca learned of the shortage, Leno told her he wanted to leave the company and go into the stock business. When she asked where he would get the money for the venture he told her he intended to use his stock from the Gateway Markets.
Corina LaBianca last saw Leno alive on August 5, 1969 when he went to her house to get his boat, which was parked in her garage.
When Alice and Leno separated, Corine LaBianca allowed Leno to use the house on Waverly Drive, rent free. After Leno's marriage to Rosemary, he moved from this location. In late 1968, Leno, Rosemary and Frankie Struthers Jr. moved back to the Waverly Drive residence after purchasing it from Corina LaBianca for $18,000. Corina LaBianca stated Leno had sold the house on Woking Way fcr a big profit, but he did not tell her what he had done with the money.
When asked by investigators if Leno had ever been affiliated with the Mafia, Corina LaBianca replied, "He was a good boy. He never did belong to the association."
FINGERPRINTS
Investigators have checked 46 suspects to date. One hundred and forty suspects have been checked as a result of a MO run with the remainder to be completed by October 17, 1969. The palm print on the bank deposit slip has been checked against 2,150 suspects. There have been 41,034 suspects checked against the print found on the liquor cabinet. A copy of all prints found at the scene has been forwarded to the FBI, Washington, D.C. to be checked in their files.
HANDWRITING
investigators are obtaining a sample of the printing of all possible suspects. The printing of the suspect(s) is discussed under "Blood Analysis" (see below). No definite determination can be made from the handwriting to indicate if the suspect is left or right handed. The height of the suspect could possibly be put at 5'8" plus, as the word "Rise" was printed at the top of a 6'8" door jam.
PHOTOGRAPHS
The photographs of the crime scene and the coroner's photographs have been assembled and placed in a folder. The knots used to bind Leno LaBianca's hands and the knots tied in the cords around Rosemary and Leno LaBiancas' necks were recreated with a similar cord. The knots were loosely tied to show how they were made. Photographs of these knots were taken. An MO run on crimes in which the victims were tied is presently being made in CII. The agency supplying the information will be contacted and copies of the knot photographs will be forwarded to them to see if there is any similarity.
POLYGRAPH
The following people have been polygraphed to date: 1. Frank Struthers Sr., 2. Frank Struthers Jr., 3. Susan Struthers, 4. Joseph Dorgan, 5. Rodney Davis, 6. Robert Greene, 7. Ray Norwood, 8. Peter BeSancis, 9. Paul Blyman, 10. Charles LaBerge, 11. Peter Smaldino. Investigators interviewed and/or reinterviewed each person prior to being polygraphed
SURVEY
The crime scene survey map of the LaBianca residence, 3301 Waverly Drive, has been completed. The map will be photographed for ease of handling and reference. The original will be left in the survey office if needed for trial.
COMPSITE
Two composite drawings of a possible suspect were made by Officer Garcia from information supplied by Leno and Amine Berberian and Sosy Sarkasian. Officer Garcia told investigators there was "quite" a discrepancy between the information given by Leno Berberian and that given by Sosy Sarkasian and Amine Berberian. The Berberians and Sarkasian observed a male Caucasian on the lawn in front of the LaBianca residence on Sunday, August 10, 1969 between 1600 and 1700 hours. They were all shown a photograph of Eugene Borenare, the LaBiancas' gardner, who was working on the LaBianca premises on August 10, 1969 from 1100 to 1600 hours and positively stated it was not the same person. Bordenare heard no noise coming from inside the house with the exception of the phone ringing once, his story is not in conflict with that of Charles Butterworth, the security guard for the premises next door (west), who heard a noise similar to a gunshot coming from the house between 1645 and 1700 hours on August 10, 1969. Butterworth also claimed to have heard the sound of furniture being knocked over during the same time period. Butterworth will be reinterviewed and probably polygraphed at a later date.
BLOOD ANALYSIS
The blood used in the writings on the walls and blood found in various parts of the house were all "B" type, Leno LaBianca's blood. However, the blood found in the rear bathroom was "A" type, which is Rosemary LaBianca's type.
HAIR
The strands of hair found in Rosemary LaBianca's hands was of two types. One was her own and the other spimal (dog) hair. It is impossible to ascertain if the hair was pulled or fell out. Strands of human and animal hair were found on the rug in the bedroom where Rosemary Labianca was found.
CII - MO RUNS
Sergeant Robert Roddenberry, #3599, Administrative Detectives, is coordinating for the department with CII to arrange for MO runs. A MO run on all crimes where the victims were tied is presently being run. (See photographs sections for details of this run). Future runs will be made concentrating on peculiarities of the robberies, used gloves, wore glasses or disabled the phone. A total of 1,033 suspects printed out of the computer in these categories. Another MO run where the victim was blindfolded or bound supplied 715 suspects. Future MO runs will be more specific in order to isolate the pertinent data, and obtain a workable number of suspects.
CORONER
Investigators met with Dr. David M. Katsuyama to discuss the protocol. It was learned that one of Rosemary LaBianca's stab wounds severed the spinal cords making it impossible for her to move. This could possibly account for her not being tied. The liver temperatures taken at 0330 hours on 8-11-69 showed Leno's body temperature at 84 degrees and Rosemary's at 83 degrees. Dr. Katsuyama stated the body temperature should drop between one to two degrees per hour. Using these figures and assuming the body temperatures of the victims to be a normal 98.6 degrees Leno LaBianca would have died between 1230 hours (based on a one degree drop per hour) and 2030 hours 8-10-69 (based on a two degree drop per hour). Conversely, Rosemary would have died an hour earlier between 1130 hours and 2130 hours. Dr. Katsuyama cautioned that this formula is affected by room temperature. The U.S. Weather Bureau was contacted and the hourly temperatures for the civic center, closest area to the crime, obtained between 0100 hours, August 10, 1969 and 0300 hours, August 11, 1969. These hourly temperatures will be discussed with Dr. Katsuyama in an attempt to pinpoint the time of death. A coroner's photo shows a plastic bag over the arms of Rosemary LaBianca. It was learned that this bag was placed on her arms by coroner's deputy to preserve the strands of hair in her hands. The title page of the Coroner's protocal shows Rosemary's date of death as August 4, 1969. This is incorrect, correct date August 11, 1969. Page two of the protocol, under EXTERNAL EXAMINATION, line three makes reference to the plastic bags which are explained above. They were not part of the crime. Dr. Katsuyama found no evidence to indicate that the suspect(s) was definitely right or Left handed. The suspect(s) were probably right handed.
The Coroner's protocol documents that of the two, Rosemary received more wounds than Leno. She also received what the Coroner has described as eight major wounds as opposed to three major wounds to Leno. Speculation suggests the possibility that she was tortured in front of Leno or the suspect had some greater anger for her.
Investigators checked the clothing of victims Rosemary and Leno LaBianca. The pillowcase that was over the head of Rosemary LaBianca has strands or human hair adhering to it. The significance or this was discussed with Officer Granado, Crime Lab, Scientific Investigation Division. It was his opinion that the hair was uprooted when the pillowcase was removed by the coroner. There are no cuts or tears in this pillowcase. At the time of her death, Rosemary was wearing a "shorty" nightgown. Over this gown she was wearing an expensive dress. It was first assumed that this dress was a robe. The "robe" was discussed with Susan Struthers and she identified it as one of her mother's favorite, expensive ($85.00) dresses. There are several tear marks, probably caused by a knife, in the nightgown and dress. The pillowcase placed over Leno's head had several tear marks probably caused by a knife. This would tend to indicate that Leno was stabbed through the pillowcase, although the knife that was left in his throat was covered by the pillowcase; which, on first observation would indicate the pillowcase was placed over his head after he was stabbed.
SUSPECTS
GREEN,ROBERT OWEN
LA#981 386-G
On September 16, 1969, this office received a teletype from the Blyth, California Police department stating that the above subject had been arrested for burglary in their city. This suspect had written on the walls, in red ink, where the burglary was committed, the words, "Pigs". With the cooperation of that department and their District Attorney, officers returned the suspect to Los Angeles for interrogation with regards to both the Tate and LaBianca cases. After an intensive interview, investigating officers were of the opinion that the subject had no knowledge of either crime. In order to completely eliminate Greene, a polygraph examination was administered. The results indicated he had no guilty knowledge of the murders. Greene was returned to Blyth and rebooked by that department on a felony warrant for burglary.
DAVIS, RODNEY
AKA:Kirchknopf,
LA#864 844-D
On September 12, 1969, Frank Struthers Sr., surrendered a.22 caliber Ruger revolver, serial #34641, to investigating officers. Struthers stated he had received the weapon from Joseph T. Dorgan, Susan Struthers boy friend, shortly after the death of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
The gun was checked and found to have been stolen from Dale A. Hoppe on March 5, 1969; residence burglary DR 69-612 666, location 15411 Mulholland. Dorgan was interviewed and readily admitted he had borrowed the gun from Rodney Davis several days after the murder.
Davis could not be located, to verify this statement, therefore Dorgan was booked for burglary. A stake-out was placed at Davis's residence and he was subsequently arrested.
Additional items were recovered from the residence that resembled property taken from the same burglary. Davis was interviewed and polygraphed with regards to the Labianca homicide. Both examinations indicated that this subject had no guilty knowledge of the LaBiance homicide. Davis was detained at Central Jail on a charge of 459 PC (Burglary). His case was handled by Sgt. Brown of Van Nuys Detectives.
The gun in question was examined by S.I.D. for possible connection in the Tate case. The results of this test were negative.
HOFFMAN, RICHARD LEE
Mr. Bruno, who lives in the same neighborhood as the LaBiancas recalled seeing a suspicious vehicle in the area. He was suspicious because a burglary had occurred a short time earlier at 3260 Waverly Drive. Mr. Bruno, has not been reinterviewed because of an extended vacation overseas. In the original interview Mr. Bruno was not sure of the date he actually saw the suspicious vehicle. He first thought he saw it August 9, then later changed the data to August 2, 1969.
He described the vehicle as a black Datsun, license #UEF 772. A DMV check indicated this vehicle was a 1967 Datsun convertible, registered to Richard Lee Hoffman, 918 E. Palmer Street, #16, Glendale, California.
Hoffman's address was checked and investigators found that he had moved from this location on March 3, 1969, leaving no forwarding address. On learning that Hoffman was employed by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, officers contacted his employer. It was learned that Hoffman had been terminated and recommended not to be rehired. A new residence address was obtained from this ex-employer, however, officers learned that he had moved from this location.
Investigators have since attempted to locate Hoffman through DMV, telephone company, and utilities without success. His parents, Mr. Mrs. Charles E. Hoffman, were contacted. They stated their son was presently unemployed and lived somewhere in Hollywood. Hoffman is still being sought for questioning as to his reason for being in the area as stated by Mr. Bruno.
BLYMAN, PAUL HAROLD
On checking Leno LaBianca's personal papers, officers came across a personal note in the amount of $450 to Laura BIyman. Investigation disclosed that Corrine Chatham, a close friend of Rosemary LaBianca, had contacted Leno LaBianca in June 1968 requesting a personal loan for her daughter, Laura Blyman. Leno agreed to loan her $450 with no interest after Mrs. Blyman signed a promisary note calling for repayment at $50 a month. An investigation into her husband's background indicated that Paul Blyman was presently in jail awaiting trial for forging a narcotic prescription.
Investigators speculating that Paul Blyman, a narcotic addict, might possibly be involved in the LaBianca murders because of his knowledge of the easy loan to his wife and the LaBianca business, intensified their investigation in this area. A court order was obtained through the District Attorney's Office in order to interview and polygraph Blyman, who was was in the county jail. Blyman was interviewed at length and later polygraphed. He showed no guilty knowledge of the murders. A sample of his handwriting and his fingerprints were obtained for comparison. The results were negative.
PIERCE, EDWARD
Due to Leno LaBianca's great interest in gambling, the Administrative Vice files were checked for any possible connection with known bookmakers. To date, investigators have been unable to uncover any person with whom Leno placed bets.
The only remote connection which investigators were able to locate was a bookmaker, Edward Pierce, CII#288 8436, who lived five blocks from the LaBianca residence. Edward Pierce moved from New York to Los Angeles with his wife and son in 1950. His only known address in this city is 2743 Waverly Drive #9. He has been involved in bookmaking since 1956. At that time his wife, Blanche Pierce, was running a "call back spot" for her husband's bookmaking operations. They have one son, Roger, who was born in New York and educated in Los Angeles. In 1965, a rumor became very strong that an unusual bookmaking operation was headed by an unknown person labeled "The Phantom". As it turned out, the "Phantom" was Edward Pierce. Information is that Pierce used key personnel to solicit wealthy heavy bettors and coax than away from other bookmakers through an extensive public relations system. Pierce's operation was the largest in Los Angeles until the arrest of most his employees in June 1967.
Investigators went to the Pierce residence at 2743 Waverly Drive and learned from the manager that the Pierce family moved out suddenly following the confiscation of their property by the Internal Revenue Department. Pierce vacated his two apartments at this location on August 18, 1969.
Mr. Kelly of the Internal Revenue Department stated that Edward Pierce was delinquent on his taxes in an excess of $100.00. Pierce was also suspected of being involved in a $600,000 stock swindle.
At the present time, the whereabouts of Mr. & Mrs. Pierce are unknown, however, intelligence reports indicate that he may have fled to the State of Florida..
Pierce is affiliated with the American Credit Agency, address unknown, with a post office box in Phoenix, Arizona. Three other individuals known to be associated with this organization are Gary Midleman, Jack Schwartz, and Leonard Monashkin. It is believed that this organization is in the collection business for certain Las Vegas interests.
In addition to the above mentioned associates, Pierce is closely affiliated with Albert E. Sunshine. Sunshine, is a known underworld figure, is closely associated with Johnny Battaglia, Joe Sica, Victor E. Pereira and numerous other underworld characters.
Among the items confiscated by the Internal Revenue from Pierce's residence was a coin collection of foreign and "off set" minted coins. Investigators examined this collection and compared it with a "want list" of coins that Leno LaBianca had in his personal papers. Investigators were unable to positively prove or disprove that these coins were those of Leno LaBianca. However, officers could not locate any of the coins that Leno wanted for his coin collection.
PIERCE, ROGER
This subject, the son of Edward Pierce, was located at his new residence in Hollywood and interviewed. Investigators obtained a handwriting exemplar and questioned him about any possible relationship with the LaBianca family. He recalled attending grammar school with Susan Struthers (Rosemary LaBianca's daughter), but had not seen her since that time. He could not, or would not, divulge the whereabouts of his mother and father. The handwriting sample was checked by S.I.D. with negative results.
POSELLA, LEONARD JR.
LA#189 324-P, CII# 973 193, FBI#210 051-B, male Caucasian, DOBs 8-26-34, 8-28-34 and 7-10-28, 5'11", 160-185, brown, brown.
Subject is listed as a suspect in the first progress report. He is described on pages 13 and 14 of that report. Subject is still being sought for questioning. Information obtained by investigators tends to indicate he is possibly living in the New York City or Newark, New Jersey areas. An unofficial request was made to the New York office of the FBI by a local FBI agent to determine subject's whereabouts. The subject is a member of the California Bar Association. The Bar Association was contacted and will notify this department if subject contacts the bar Association. Subject was medically discharged from the Air Force; served from 1952 to 1954, serial #194 52 577. He has, in the past, applied for medical aid from the Veterans Administration; V.A. Claim #C191 68 065. The V.A. was notified and will contact this office if subject submits a claim. Subject has worked in the New York City area as a social worker and has stayed with relatives in the Newark, New Jersey area. He has worked as a gas station attendant since passing the bar. Subject is probably in company with:
RANSOM, Sharon, LA#915 240-R, CII#3 539 256, female Caucasian, DOB 5-11-49, 5,1 ½ ", 115, brown, brown. Subject defended Ransom on a narcotic arrest and has since become addicted to the use of drugs himself. Subject and Ransom are probably together.
Information received from the State Narcotic Office indicates that Posella was seen buying narcotics in the Hollenbeck area several months ago. Photographs of Posella and his girl friend,Sharon Ransom are being distributed to Hollenbeck radio car officers, Hollywood radio car officers, narcotics officers, and Sybil Brand Institute for women.
Subject is wanted on a Felony Warrant (Bench Warrant) #A056 027 issued 6-2-69, Division 64, Violation Section 4390 B&P. Total bail $625.00, Judge Leo Freund. Subject was arrested on the warrant by State Narcotic Investigators S.E. Kapelson and H. Feldman. Subject bailed out and did not appear for trial. Feldman described subject as a "meth-freak".
Posella is also wanted on a misdemeanor warrant #V169225. Bench Warrant issued 5-16-69, Division 35, Violation Sections 23102A VC #12951 VC. Total bail $587.50 and misdemeanor warrant #318045 Bench Warrant issued 8-1-69, Division 18, Violation Section 415PC total bail $940.00.
Mr. Fiestman, an investigator for the Los Angeles County Probation Department, phone 381-6751, investigated Posella when he was arrested for attempt murder. Posella's wife, Jean Bruckman, was the victim. The charge was reduced to 415 PC and the above mentioned bench warrant issued. Fiestman, in his investigation for the court, recommended Posella's disbarment and a psychiatric report. Dr. Marcus Crahan, a court appointed psychiatrist, described Posella as having uncontrolled aggressions of maniacal proportions. In the classification of probationers, Posella has a case classification of III, which indicates the highest degree of supervision possible.
Bruckman informed investigators that while she was married to Posella she can recall seven separate occasions when Posella visited the Labiancas. Bruckman reported that on each instance when she and Posella were visiting Posella's mother, who lived next door to the Labiancas, Leonard Posella would go to the LaBianca residence and return with either money or whiskey which he said Leno had given him. When questioned by Bruckman as to how he could do such a thing, he replied, "It's Okay, I know them and they better give it to me or else."
Prior to their marriage Bruckman stated that Leonard Posella and his father had a fierce argument at a restaurant which his father owns in Santa Monica. During the argument Leonard Posella grabbed a knife from the kitchen table and chased his father stating that he would kill him. Bruckman and Leonard's step-mother were able to detain him long enough for the senior Posella to escape. After their marriage, which lasted two weeks, Bruckman stated that for no apparent reason Leonard began striking her. On September 2, 1968, Posella administered a vicious beating to Bruckman then grabbed a knife from the kitchen drawer and attempted to kill her. She warded off the blows and managed to escape and call the police. Posella was booked for attempted murder.
RANSOM, SHARON LEE
This subject is Leonard Posella's girl friend. They have been keeping company for the past year. Posella has defended her in court several times. Ransom has a prior record for burglary, possession of narcotics and CCW. Checking her background, officers learned she had a prior boy friend named Zorba Demetian Kapranopoulous, AKA: Zorba the Greek. Officers learned that both Ransom and Zorba had been members of the Satan Slaves, motorcycle group. A follow-up to Ransom's last known address at 733 N. Cahuenga showed she had left the location eight months prior, leaving no forwarding address. Officers, however, were able to ascertain her parents home phone number 467-3455. Her mother, Clarice Hendricks, stated she had not seen Sharon for several months, did not know her whereabouts, and did not know anyone who could supply the investigators with information regarding Ransom's place of abode.
KAPRANOPOULOUS, ZORBA DEMETIAN
AKA: ZORBA THE GREEK
Investigators to date have been unable to locate Zorba at his last known address and local hangouts in the Hollywood area. Zorba has an extensive arrest record for robbery, narcotics, burglary, and desertion. This subject is wanted for desertion by the U.S. Army. A prior handwriting exemplar of Zorba's was checked by S.I.D. against the handwriting at the LaBianca murder scene. Although there were similarities in some of the letters, positive identification could not be made. Officers noted that on his handwriting exemplar Zorba listed his occupation as "a revolutionist". Zorba was arrested for traffic violation on 12-29-66 and had in his possession a Nazi armband.
IDK, drugs on file w/r/t suspect at the time, "vice," gambling, "coin dealers," possible embezzlement/larceny, grocery stores, adultery, complex financial affairs, "Sons of Italy" -- there were a lot of colorful characters and secrets belonging to just this one part of the case; my guess is that DMcG had a connection who knew where to get high back in the day, and one of the groceries was a front [if not all of them].
 

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Apparently, the reason for this is because most apes live in jungles, which means that the fossils left behind are often not very well preserved because of the environment.

Which is convenient.
Couple things to add to this as a passing paleo enthusiast

1. Most fossils of the stuff are  extremly fragmentary. One of humanities ancestors is only known by a single tooth. This is typical of most fossils, and is not particular to human ancestors, but it does show how very little actual evidence we have. The famous Lucy fossil is known from 40/207 bones, and is considered "very complete" at that level. Spinosaurus was known from around 30 bones until the late 1990s. As it stands now, we only have around 7 other described spinosaourus fossils, which includes one partial skeleton, and then several skull fragments. This means that the spinosaurus we saw in jurassic park 3, was based off of 2 fossils total.

2. Because of the above and other things, the majority of what we know about prehistoric life boils down to "Well I'm gonna guess [x] is true". Even the famous Lucy fossil was debated as to whether it was that of an early chimp, or an early human, and while I am not necessarily suggesting conspiracy on the modern day conclusions, they quite clearly cannot ever be questioned without severe career destruction. Another good example of these guesses not being totally reliable is the humble skunk. If we found skunk fossils, we have genuinely 0 idea its most famous trait ever existed. Our knowledge of the fossil record and the life it represents is immensly incomplete
 
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Jews are making us retarded cripples by making shoes that foot bind us.

The shoe jews are back and ruining my fucking footwear again.

So my favorite shoe company was Altra because it kept the wide foot form shoes that matched your foot's natural shape while also having cushion. They were bought in 2018, I bought a new shoe from them in the same model as before and they're fucking tighter and less wide.

I googled to see what jews are controlling this shoe company:
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Now can someone please tell me why the fuck these niggers, especially blackrock and vanguard, have a 10% share in a random activewear corporation that no one cares? Are they just buying up this shit so they ruin all the shoes on the market?

I will research upper management to see if they are involved in ruining other shoe companies. Fuck them shoe jews.
 
The shoe jews are back and ruining my fucking footwear again.

So my favorite shoe company was Altra because it kept the wide foot form shoes that matched your foot's natural shape while also having cushion. They were bought in 2018, I bought a new shoe from them in the same model as before and they're fucking tighter and less wide.

I googled to see what jews are controlling this shoe company:
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Now can someone please tell me why the fuck these niggers, especially blackrock and vanguard, have a 10% share in a random activewear corporation that no one cares? Are they just buying up this shit so they ruin all the shoes on the market?

I will research upper management to see if they are involved in ruining other shoe companies. Fuck them shoe jews.
I literally feel your pain, and I own a pair of Altras, with eyes on more pairs, but maybe no longer, damn.
 
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I literally feel your pain, and I own a pair of Altras, with eyes on more pairs, but maybe no longer, damn.
in their defense the shoes are still fine and they're still my favourite running sneaker. i switched from via Olympus to via Olympus 2 and i will buy the 3rd when they're on sale, but they literally have no competition in the market and now BlackRock has shares in them and that worries me.

just make sure to buy the original sole size and if you're a woman buy the men's model and you'll be fine (i hope)
 
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I might have stumbled across a new one. I think there's something kinda fucky going on with the whole 'evolution' thing. I'm not saying I don't believe it, but I do think it's been rather co-opted by people with an ideological interest in pushing atheism.
I think the real issue behind evolution discourse is that we're faced with the apparent differences between racial and ethnic groups, and the scientific community balks over it due to the slippery-slope of eugenics. We want the scientific benefits while rejecting the uncomfortable truth that separate groups have distinct evolutionary advantages and disadvantages shaped by their native environment.
If you question evolution people seem to have no qualms about shaming you for it - treating like you're some kind of fucking retard - but shouldn't we at least be able to have the discussion?
I think that's partly where the sacred cow is here. On one hand, going too soft on the issue "holds progress back" because we won't be able to isolate gene sequences or we'll withhold paleontological funding. On the other, going too hard on the issue belies the pro-diversity liberal democracy the West currently upholds by stigmatizing entire groups of people. No, we must remain in this solidly gray foundational view of evolution, where we're all one species, the human species, and all races are exactly the same.
Mind you, don't read too much in what I'm saying here. I'm not going full wignat and saying that Blacks and Whites are an entirely different species or what have you. I'm saying that there are people out there who will get offended if you point out the obvious fact that melanated skin is an evolutionary advantage borne from increased sunlight, and that implies there may be other evolutionary advantages or disadvantages, like bone marrow density as an example. It makes people uncomfortable, and discomfort is the gravest sin in the Current Year. In effect, modern evolutionary theory is a religion because it requires faith in one paradigm and rejection and/or ignorance of another derived from it.
And a bit peculiar, considering we can find fossil evidence of countless other species in far less hospitable places. We can find spinosaurus fossils at the bottom of filth-encrusted muddy swamps full of algae and stuff, but our closest genetic ancestor? Yeah, no, sorry, mate. Jungles are no good for preserving fossils, whattayagonnado? 🤷‍♀️
Fun fact: we don't know about the vast majority of pre-human life on Earth. The fossil record is hopelessly incomplete. The reason why we know about dinosaurs like T-Rex and Coelophysis are either due to the environment in which they lived or the sheer number of individuals within a species. Watch any dinosaur documentary ever made, then look up the true birth and extinction of a species, and realize that many dinosaurs did not exist during the same timeframe nor in the same region.
 
I will research upper management to see if they are involved in ruining other shoe companies. Fuck them shoe jews.

I came back to share with you my autistc infodumping. So CEO of VF currently is Bracken Darrell. He's not a jew, im 90% sure he's methodist tho so thats just another branch of satanism so fuck him.

Here's this resume and things that he ruined worldwide:

Chief Executive Officer - VF Corporation (2023 - present)
  1. This is Altra but also the north face, vans, supreme, etc and I already discussed how he ruined the shoes there as well by making them less wide.
  2. I was complaining that the Via Olympus 2 are tighter and less wide than the 1st, and the 2s were released in 2024. Coincidence? I think not
CEO - Logitech (2013 - 2023)
  1. Fired 5% of the company in the first year
  2. Monopolised and bought all the universal remote control companies, only to shut down the project for no reason. (source)
  3. Accounting fraud
  4. Logitech g hub is notorious for being garbage and some people even accusing it of being malware
Board Member - Life Biosciences Oct 2018 – Present
  1. This is some weird ass typical jewish adenochrome producing shit, "Life Biosciences is a biotechnology company pioneering cellular rejuvenation therapies to reverse and prevent multiple diseases of aging." Bruh get the hell outta here this is shady as fuck I'm not even going to source anything here this is obivously not a christian company.
  2. Cofounded by David Sinclair, another weirdo who is involved in other conspiracies and has been accused of falsifing data. Honestly I didn't research this guy past the first 3 results on google, but look at his fucking face he straight up looks reptilian:
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half life villain looking ass you look like you just auditioned for agent smith

Board Member - Harvard Business School, Board of Advisors
  1. No comment y'all already know that everyone on that board blinks vertically.
President - Whirlpool Corporation May 2008 – May 2012 | 4 yrs 1 mo
  1. Bought Maytag and ruined the company for no reason.
President, Braun Procter & Gamble 2002 – 2008 | 6 yrs
  1. Acquires gillete during that time period and just made their products shittier in general.
General Manager General Electric 1997 – 2002 | 5 yrs
  1. Tried to ruin MRIs for everyone in america
  2. Some financial scandals, but I'll leave Darrell out of this since he was just a general manager
Brand Manager Procter & Gamble 1991 – 1997 | 6 yrs
  1. Did the groundwork for "The Man Your Man Could Smell Like" commercials that revived the company.
  2. What a coincidence that their deodorants caused contact dermatitis and irritation in so many people?
TL;DR The guy is shady as hell, he keeps ruining shit for the companies he works at and for the world in general and people keep hiring him back.
 
Apparently, the reason for this is because most apes live in jungles, which means that the fossils left behind are often not very well preserved because of the environment.

Which is convenient.

The true breadth of what we don't know is what you and to be honest the people you discuss evolution with biggest issue.

To continue the dinosaur side of this, they were on this planet for about 200 million years. We have maybe a few thousand pieces from them, a handful of complete skeletons. We have identified only 700 different species, from 200 million year. For all we know dinosaurs could have lived in dino cities made of metal and that shit would have been destroyed in the intervening 65million years until current day. And this is from dinosaurs, it's not an unsafe assumption that trillions of dinosaurs could have existed in that 200m years, that's likely a low number.

The biggest issue facing human evolution is the groups we evolved out of are magnitudes smaller. We know at somepoint we came out of a group of about 1000, basically making everyone on earth related, but besides that event which occurred, I've seen size estimations of most homosapien ancestors in the 100k range. We've been lucky for evidence in the past 100k years as we get closer to humans you get more ornate burials, which has preserved some evolution for us.

And another big issue is there is no missing link, it will never be found just because it doesn't exist.

All of that said, something for hard-core evolution retards to think about, the existence of ancestors does not discredit or disprove a guided evolution process, ie: God and/or God's. Humans are comically unique, the world is comically unique to the point that statistically it's a higher probability that there is an outside influence with the information we have now. I know some people will run with "he said statistically" as if it's a scientific call that there is a God, but they don't realize how little we know and in the vastness of what we don't know, there is a better than zero chance for a guided evolution to be true.
 
Evolution and Creationism don't contradict one another, they prove one another.

Origins of life:
Creationist - It was God
Evolutionist - ??? (We have no fucking idea how life started on this planet, to the point where intervention from a divine or extra-terrestrial source makes the most sense)

Proof of God
Creationist - God exists
Evolutionist - Shit gets better over time and on a long enough timeline, a life form so advanced will exist that it views us as ants, and we view them as Gods.

The two have been pitted against one another to stop the truth coming out. In the same way the uniparty keeps us down.



Immigration is not about white replacement or about being nice and friendly. It's a peace-time war strategy.

The Chinese, Indians, Africans and Middle-easterners will out-number the west/anglos by hundreds of millions of people if left unchecked. Think of how many indians there would be if all of them stayed in India. Same with China or the Muslims.
Spreading them out in the west is to stop them from marching en masse into a neighbour and wiping them out, or building an empire. If India went Nuclear on China and Pakistan, think of the smell and the resulting empire. Nigh-on 2 billion people under the direction of a pajeet Hitler? That's not good.

There is an added benefit to a certain group of people but that uses their centuries-old, tried and tested method. But that's for another day.
 
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