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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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FedPostalService said:
Have we had a DNA test to confirm this?
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We tried but 23andMe went into financial crisis after receiving the saliva sample and there are currently advisories for people to delete all data. Rumours are that some ancient link between Homo sapiens and Cricetus cricetus was uncovered and they're trying to suppress the findings to prevent major upheaval of our understanding of the world.
 
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FedPostalService said:
police aren't going to hunt you down as soon as they see you're behind a VPN.
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And I'd posit that if there's too many people doing it (more than 10 or something lmao), then even the smallest of hurdles — like not immediately having your name or general location plastered to your account — will be enough to dissuade them, especially since Twitter means the comments could've been made from anybody anywhere. Getting shit like an IP address requires approaching the website the comment was made on, hope they comply (if they're non-UK based and the comments amount to could get thrown at you on the streets of X-American city they might not), then they'd probably need to approach the internet service providers in the area associated with it and press them for your info if it doesn't tie to a specific address to confirm they've logged the address.

When you see the type of people who are arrested or approached by the police for social media posts, it's typically because they put their info front and centre on their accounts along with their face to tie a name to it. If the 'cyber specialist' they have is feeling fancy, might even click on other accounts that have been willingly associated with the account they made the comments on to see if you made it any easier for them. If you call Lammy a slur yet have your Linkdn account right there, they're one click away from getting your name, location, face, job, etcetera. I think this is how some of the Southport posters got got, since they're too young to be boomer-tier with OPSEC (I would hope). During the lockdowns it seems like one of the things everyone who implemented WFH did was have everyone make one of those accounts, not realising just how much easier it made to find you (or maybe that was the point?). After being in my current job for the past couple years, I had mine deleted since it was just an unnecessary vulnerability. Basically, never make it easy to find your name and location both. A name by itself or a location on its own, are both too large to go trawling through just to find one guy who posted something the police don't like. The police themselves are open about how they do it.
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>Publicly posted on Facebook
>'Worked' to identify and locate from their online profiles (Their general location and name were probably openly available on Facebook)

So just avoid being retarded and posting inflammatory shit under your real name and location. I spoke before earlier in the thread how far behind most people are when it comes to shit relating to the internet; I don't think people posting on this site or practice even minimal OPSEC (like not posting under their real name) are in any sort of trouble. People really need to consider the scale of the internet, how many people use it and how little manpower our authorities have in trying to police all of it. Even the Ofcom letter Null received put the mission of assessing how 'dangerous' his own website was on him. If you avoid making their jobs really easy for them, and don't do shit that forces them to put in more effort, then you're safe.
 
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>IMPLYING said:
And I'd posit that if there's too many people doing it (more than 10 or something lmao), then even the smallest of hurdles — like not immediately having your name or general location plastered to your account — will be enough to dissuade them, especially since Twitter means the comments could've been made from anybody anywhere. Getting shit like an IP address requires approaching the website the comment was made on, hope they comply (if they're non-UK based and the comments amount to could get thrown at you on the streets of X-American city they might not), then they'd probably need to approach the internet service providers in the area associated with it and press them for your info if it doesn't tie to a specific address to confirm they've logged the address.
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In many ways I'm more concerned about it being done the other way around. The British govt.'s approach seems to be: "Criminalise everything. Enforce Selectively". Which is to say when someone starts becoming a problem or getting support, they then start going through their books for something to throw at him.

I'm less concerned than them finding something @Overly Serious has posted and figuring out who I am, than them seeing me at some protest or meeting and then finding out I post here.

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An Imam in Birmingham is going around disgusted at what filthy pigs his own are.

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Good for him, frankly.
 
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Gorillion others said:
Okay euro bros.

How cooked are ya?
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*Brit bros.

I think there's this understandable trend of Americans being more afraid of a country's government on behalf of its people than the people themselves. The oven we (Brits) are all in collectively has been smouldering at the same heat it has for a long time at this point, but the government's cooking skill is comparable to that of any woman born after 1993. The only reason there hasn't been the sort of backlash you would expect is down to the stymied flow of information and the people not realising the true extent of the government's incapability until rather recently (2019-2024). If the government has fucked us over in some respect, it usually flies under the radar since, if it's talked about at all on the mainstream news, people are just as likely to miss it by switching the channel to something else. The proliferation of information and broadening access to alternate news sources is only a recent development in the UK compared to it happening sooner in America, since we only got our version of 'Fox' in 2021 and I theorise people only started using the internet for more than just recreation as a result of lockdowns forcing people to become more familiar with it.

It's not to say my personal lack of fear means I'm indifferent or apathetic to the rather impotent tyranny of my country's leadership; I just have it couched in the context of time (Immigration became a concern in 2008, people only realised the true extent of how bad things are in 2022-2024) and the changing situation in our country (Reform's popularity and the growing comfort with broaching formerly taboo topics). I've gone over why I'm not as bleak on my outlook in prior posts, and I think a lack of patience and constant negativity contribute to the sense of hopelessness some posters here might feel (and what some foreigners feel on our behalf). The concept that the British (And I'll include Europe in this since even while Germany is more fucked than us in terms of free speech and France's system is designed to stop parties capable of change coming to power, they also both display positive trends politically) are inherently subservient by nature or beyond any shadow of hope is incredibly bitter and unnecessarily harsh, not when we're seeing in real time more people growing pissed off and patience is wearing thin. A total of 6 people being arrested for social media posts a year doesn't really inspire fear in the capabilities of my government, and considering we're sacrificed meritocracy for diversity and inclusion I also doubt they'll become any more capable. We hire Indians with fake resumes to staff our hospitals, the same is almost assuredly true of our cybercrime apparatuses.

So how cooked are we? If things continue as they are, not very. If people collectively for some reason decide to do a 180, then potentially, but it's unlikely considering the state of things and our government's continued prat falling into ideas and decisions that keep pissing people off.
 
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>IMPLYING said:
People really need to consider the scale of the internet, how many people use it and how little manpower our authorities have in trying to police all of it.
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The usual SOP for ALL social media enforcement of social dogma is simply to get one or two people and utterly ruin them pour encourager les autres.
Do you remember that chap who was a scientist who had a Hawaiian shirt with girls printed on it in a fifties pin up style? A woman colleague brought it back for him, the women who worked with him in the lab were aghast at him being persecuted, but the ‘mob’ brought him down for ‘sexism’ despite the women he worked with saying he was not even slightly sexist? A completely innocent and regular chap ruined because someone somewhere wanted to make a point.
This is how they do it. And if they want to go after here they will. GCHQ have the ability to get through anything, and they only need one or two people to haul before the public and wreck them.
They will do this as soon as people start to get uppity again. I think it’s an option they’ve not used so far for a few reasons
1. It says to the public that they actually can go after people behind basic anonymity , and them insisting they can’t is a key stance they need to uphold to get privacy measure removed.
2. It’s a bit of a nuclear option
But they will use it.
 
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Otterly said:
They will do this as soon as people start to get uppity again. I think it’s an option they’ve not used so far for a few reasons
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They did use it. After the football when we went out on penalties they worked with various groups of snitches to identify anyone they could on the internet griping about the black players and ruin them.

Plus the post Southport stuff.
 
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Lovesock said:
>concern trolling

>straight up lying

And you're warning everyone else of Feds..? Seriously? You called UKIP a honeypot! The swinger-in-chief, Tenconi, is apparently working for MI5.

This has been a pattern of years with you, specifically, either being caught bullshitting or inventing reasons to be suspicious of others. You are just a Leftist fanatic who touches himself while imagining his opponents being slammed by negros in political prisons.

In reality, I'm more afraid of Null than I am of the British police. I haven't had so much as a glance from the authorities, despite what you've been claiming for over six months.

Null, on the other hand, actually puts the work in to publicly humiliate his enemies. You should be more concerned about the site owner himself dragging you into his dungeon.

Follow the site rules, and the de-facto site rule that British posters should use a VPN.

Don't sit around acting as if your blatant shilling for the current government's authoritarianism is anything close to reality.
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Welcome back to the Farms, faggot. I missed laughing at your half-assed, nonsense gibberish derived from a hopelessly Anglocentric view of history and powered by a completely unwarranted sense of self-righteousness.
 
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>IMPLYING said:
And I'd posit that if there's too many people doing it (more than 10 or something lmao), then even the smallest of hurdles — like not immediately having your name or general location plastered to your account — will be enough to dissuade them, especially since Twitter means the comments could've been made from anybody anywhere. Getting shit like an IP address requires approaching the website the comment was made on, hope they comply (if they're non-UK based and the comments amount to could get thrown at you on the streets of X-American city they might not), then they'd probably need to approach the internet service providers in the area associated with it and press them for your info if it doesn't tie to a specific address to confirm they've logged the address.
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There's plenty of cases of people saying doubleplus ungood jokes on Twitter and X handing over the details to the police. X is not your friend despite what the grifters tell you. They have business operations (mainly for tax reasons) in the UK and have to apply to UK law.

If they really cared and wanted to make a stink they'd move their operations out of the UK and just let people use it and tell Ofcom and the government to fuck off.
 
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Can someone explain how I can still access this on my phone but not PC? Im a retard-sorry.

I just want to keep up to date with Chantal (Foodie Beauty) and get triggered in by ziggers.
 
Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
Can someone explain how I can still access this on my phone but not PC? Im a retard-sorry.

I just want to keep up to date with Chantal (Foodie Beauty) and get triggered in by ziggers.
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Download the TOR browser, it's available on Google playstore, though If I were you, I wouldn't browse it on my phone.

Reject modernity, return to tradition of logging on to the internet using programs and a PC.
 
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Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
Can someone explain how I can still access this on my phone but not PC? Im a retard-sorry.

I just want to keep up to date with Chantal (Foodie Beauty) and get triggered in by ziggers.
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The token on your phone hasn't updated yet. Opera has a shit VPN that lets you access. You can use Brave too.
 
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