UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Gian-Luca Caluga · Mar 28, 2025

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
Your comment made me choke on my Irn Bru, Bravo. The sugar free version does not taste like shit either. I rank it with the king of sugar-free sodas, Pepsi Max.

Sugar-free Irn Bru is communist filth. Even sugary Irn Bru is chemical swill, these days. Only Irn Bru 1901 is trve.

FedPostalService · Mar 28, 2025

Gian-Luca Caluga said:
Sugar-free Irn Bru is communist filth. Even sugary Irn Bru is chemical swill, these days. Only Irn Bru 1901 is trve.

I don't like the 1901. It doesn't taste like the Irn Bru I grew up with.

BongoMongo · Mar 28, 2025

Gian-Luca Caluga said:
Sugar-free Irn Bru is communist filth. Even sugary Irn Bru is chemical swill, these days. Only Irn Bru 1901 is trve.

OMG I do not live in Scotland but wee shop near me sells it in glass boatils. And Red Cola, too. Fuck me I am B L E S S E D.

Also I went to a concet at weekend. One of songs they played has the line "I don't know what happens now; I am too scared to close my eyes". Shit sums up how I feel about things as they are.

Amin Yasister · Mar 28, 2025

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1905381203496087893

The Government is considering giving HMRC powers to demand more personal info from banks about the amount of savings people have, including linking it to National Insurance numbers to tax savings out of payslips

yay...

HMRC can do this now by applying via the court for a Production order on the financial institution. They have to give good reasons for requesting the information, and the banks will supply the information detailed on the order. This may lead to further orders being requested on other accounts. Note that not all Orders are granted by the courts

>IMPLYING said:
Really does feel like the beginning of the end in a way. They're trying to scrounge and snatch as much as they can from people, no matter the amount. On benefits I know you can have 6k in savings before they stop giving you money, but you could in theory just withdraw it all or transfer it to another account and then they resume sending money. To me that sounds like at the moment they only see your balance but can't see where you're sending the money to. If you 're sending that cash to your Paypal account, then get your bennies, you could viably work your way up to thousands more than what you're technically allowed to have. Could be wrong on that possibility completely I'm not familiar with that they can already track.

If you have, or receive funds that are in excess of the amount that stops you from getting benefits, giving it away so that you do qualify for benefits is easily determined by way of a production order on the account. Thats if the court allow the application

UselessRubberKeyboard · Mar 28, 2025

Special spoonie said:
An Imam in Birmingham is going around disgusted at what filthy pigs his own are.

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God/Mohammad (delete as appropriate) bless ‘im. Seems like a nice bloke. That was my dad’s neck of the woods for many years, mad area of Brum. People are quick to disregard Muslims as all the same ignorant, violent nutters but plenty of them a decent people. They do tend to bring their territorial beefs with them, though, as other commenters have said. I’d go so far as to call it ‘tribal’, but doing so in this case might get me arrested for doing a racism (as opposed to it being a-ok when talking about bands of white Brits kicking off over the football, weird, that).

A-Logato said:
You would be honestly shocked just how much they can get out of you on the internet and all the petti bullshit that gets you on a watch list. They track your SIMs and read what you do via mobile data (namely browser data) and yes they do actively share this data around the British 3 letters.

This is stuff you would probably presume they are already doing already but it's the sheer scale of the whole operation that's scary. They can track you down to the exact street in live time and begin digging through and spying on you remotely through the phone. Also they love to abuse the crap out of this, the Police will make up dumb BS like missing person without any evidence and ask for a very long list of SIM data and geographical data on an individual and they'll happily hand it over without even needing a warrant, even the people who operate it just use it for petti bullshit like spying on family members and Ex girlfriends.

You’re best off assuming that anything and everything you do on your mobile phone can be accessed by thems in the big spiky palace down south - and more importantly, thems in the big steel doughnut out in the arse end of GloucesterWorcesterHerefordshire (that neck of the woods is all the fucking same to me, boring-arsed tracts of fuck all, no wonder they stuck the spooks there). Unless you have something really wild and out there like…I dunno, do they still make YotaPhones? But connecting to any U.K. communication network more than likely means the Big Guys can have a look see. I wouldn’t trust any communication network to be confidential in the U.K., at least not any electronic ones.

It’s kinda cool that the only really secret messages you can send nowadays are the super old fashioned type like mail (assuming the post office don’t lose your letter, or frame it because they’re so rare nowadays and all the posties deliver are spam pamphlets), or - and I know this is really out there and ridiculous - actually meeting someone in person and talking to them. I assume we’re allowed to do the latter now, and we don’t have to stay 2 metres away from all living beings upon fear of choking on our own lungs?

The UK is such a weird place. Feels like we desperately try to copy America in so many things, where they just don’t fucking fit here. Why was ‘black lives matter’ a thing here, for example? Activists carry on like Trump is our president and America’s problems are our problems. Don’t we have enough problems of our own?

Overdrive · Mar 28, 2025

pangolins said:
I'm an absolute fiend for sugar free soft drinks, but I'm sorry, Irn Bru is best full sugar. Diet Coke is clearly the superior sugar free drink.

For me it's got to be Sprite Zero (from a can or bottle, not from maccies or where ever). It tastes almost exactly the same as the full sugar version. Most other sugar free drinks taste like arse to me.

Otterly · Mar 28, 2025

@>IMPLYING
It’s a mix. A mix of incompetence, uselessness and malevolence. The problem is that if the system is in general incompetent, uncaring and useless, then a small number of strategically placed malevolents can cause untold damage, and the system is not rigorous enough to withstand or resist that.
Let me give some examples of what I mean
1. Covid (sorry, always banging on about Covid.) so the PCR tests were sent out to labs and they had insanely high Ct (cycle) numbers, so they threw a lot of false positives. Now the people setting up that SOP for who, and how to test, were malevolent. They did things like ‘if someone vaxxed comes into hospital do not test for covid. If unvaxxed, test with the test that throws false positives.’ So everyone else involved, all those doctors and nurses and lab techs and data gatherers? They’re doing what the SOP tells them, diligently and honestly and the data is still wrong and it allows the malevolent actor to state ‘people in hospital are mainly unvaxxed.’
With Rotherham, and with most government stuff it’s the same. Most aren’t aware, or it’s not their job, or it’s someone’s else’s problem. The few who do care, well they take it up the chain until they hit a malevolent actor, and get blocked.
In a perfect system, that Covid SOP would have been picked up and picked apart by people with enough clout to fix it. In Rotherham, that malevolent block would be removed because there would be a system in place to pick up such issues.
But there isn’t. This is the banality of evil. Most people are just cogs in the machine and they know there’s enough malevolence in the system that any dissent gets squashed. So they keep quiet.
Covid (sorry) again was a great demonstration of this, in terms of the proportions of people who are leaders, vs followers, vs dissenters.
Or take stonewall and mermaids. They’ve got their filthy claws into high places and have put very damaging grooming materials and policies in place. A group of just a few made the recommendations to put men in women’s jails in Scotland - and one, he was caught with a load of CP.
It does not take much to subvert a lazy, bloated and useless system.
If we start again once it’s all been razed to the ground we need to think hard on this and create systems that have the checks and balances to spot this kind of infiltration and abuse. That is a hard, thankless task, and it’s a huge job

A-Logato · Mar 28, 2025

The response the British public had to COVID is honestly a depressing macrocosm of why this country will never truly up end the system it sees it's self be oppressed by. We had one of, if not the highest vaccination rates globally at something like 80% of the population and some of the most draconian lock downs of any country that wasn't China and they just happily went along with it without a second thought.

I do honestly believe that the government saw just how many people are willing to go along with mass government control and just the sheer amount of shit it's willing to put up with and realised they could get away with almost anything and have unofficial government bodies and NGO's play defence for them if anything does come to bite them in the ass. Southport was an exception but lets be fair, was very centralised to the north of England and they came down extremely hard on. I doubt more and more well see any real rebellion to what's happening to us and that COVID was the very moment they found out just how easy to manipulate the population truly was.

Let it be known that the biggest controversy of lockdown was the fact that some MP's had a party and not the loss of jobs, borderline forced vaccination and masking and all the people who were jailed.

Whoopsie Daisy · Mar 28, 2025

They shut all of the pubs, in Britain, the biggest piss-head country in the world, and nobody batted an eye-lid. Before covid, pubs had never been shut, ever, not even 'durin' tha woh' (tm)

This country will comply with anything.

DP:

Kier starmer's communication chief has stepped down.

Mr Doyle joined Sir Keir Starmer's team in the summer of 2021, arguably the lowest point of his leadership, shortly after a humiliating defeat for Labour in a by-election in Hartlepool.

An email from Mr Doyle to colleagues this morning, seen by the BBC, said "it's time to pass the baton on".

He added: "I wanted to let you know that I have informed the prime minister I am standing down as director of communications.

"When I started working for Keir four years ago, not many people though we could win a general election and certainly not in the emphatic way we did.

"That was down to the hard work and determination of so many people and of course Keir's leadership.

"I am incredibly proud of the part I have played in returning our party to government and the change we are already bringing to the country. Now it's time to pass the baton on."

close · Mar 28, 2025

FedPostalService said:
This is a Greggs, sir.

My apologies, nigger, I'll try to be more racist next time.

Sausage roll please.

teriyakiburns · Mar 28, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
Kier starmer's communication chief has stepped down.

This is "jump before he's pushed" territory, isn't it?

Spud · Mar 28, 2025

close said:
Sausage roll please.

Sorry the sausage rolls are reserved for racists. Best I can offer is the Vegan one.

Whoopsie Daisy · Mar 28, 2025

teriyakiburns said:
This is "jump before he's pushed" territory, isn't it?

I was thinking more along the lines of "I'm jumping before this arsehole sinks my career and legacy". Both could be true.

The timing is interesting; not close enough to the GE win that he can celebrate a job well done. Far enough into the new government for him to realise what a shit show it is.

Amin Yasister · Mar 28, 2025

UselessRubberKeyboard said:
You’re best off assuming that anything and everything you do on your mobile phone can be accessed by thems in the big spiky palace down south - and more importantly, thems in the big steel doughnut out in the arse end of GloucesterWorcesterHerefordshire (that neck of the woods is all the fucking same to me, boring-arsed tracts of fuck all, no wonder they stuck the spooks there). Unless you have something really wild and out there like…I dunno, do they still make YotaPhones? But connecting to any U.K. communication network more than likely means the Big Guys can have a look see. I wouldn’t trust any communication network to be confidential in the U.K., at least not any electronic ones.

Don't forget that many new cars (made by BMW, Skoda, Audi, Nissan, Volvo and many more) have SIM cards built in so access can be gained to GPS, wi-fi, etc. The data they collect can also be obtained by Law Enforcement in the UK. Lots of hire cars, mostly the more expensive models, are fitted with trackers.

Law Enforcement can request, with a Production Order, details of the data held by the in-car SIM and the hire cars tracking data.

Overly Serious · Mar 28, 2025

>IMPLYING said:
I know I'm naturally the one who has the most optimism as indicated by my posts, so my perception of things might be worthless

On the contrary, it has great value. Outrage is emotionally rewarding, defeatism excuses inaction and cynicism gets upvotes because it contradicts the propaganda. Three reasons why people can be inclined to a miserable fatalism. Your posts have genuinely made me feel a bit better. And I think optimism is necessary to improve things. It just can't be naive Pollyanna optimism. It needs to be mixed with a little stubborn orneriness, but you can't effect change without it.

And as the theme of much of your posting currently is the ineffectiveness of the govt. to do widescale enforcement you'd reminded me of an old leadership maxim: "Never give an order you can't enforce." Whether you're a teacher, an officer or a dictator it holds true that this is almost always a mistake that weakens your position.

On your worked example of Rotherham, though I would take some issues. Fear of being perceived as racist was a widespread factor across the police force and government officials and it came down from on high to not act on this stuff. In several cases the police actively prevented families from rescuing their kids and even returned underage girls to their abusers. And micro-focusing on that case ignores that it happened in a wider context of many such attitudes. Police officers have testified that they were ordered not to wear riot gear or be armed when facing violent Islamic groups because it created bad optics. An absolutely despicable radio talkshow guy on LBC said that the abused girls were that way because their parents were "drunk in the gutter". I don't really see how the police in those areas couldn't know what was going on as I lived in that region and most people knew. I knew three girls who had been molested by Pakistani gangs just personally. I would pick a different example to illustrate optimism and faith in human nature, if you want my advice.

>IMPLYING · Mar 28, 2025

A-Logato said:
The response the British public had to COVID is honestly a depressing macrocosm of why this country will never truly up end the system it sees it's self be oppressed by. We had one of, if not the highest vaccination rates globally at something like 80% of the population and some of the most draconian lock downs of any country that wasn't China and they just happily went along with it without a second thought.

I do honestly believe that the government saw just how many people are willing to go along with mass government control and just the sheer amount of shit it's willing to put up with and realised they could get away with almost anything and have unofficial government bodies and NGO's play defence for them if anything does come to bite them in the ass. Southport was an exception but lets be fair, was very centralised to the north of England and they came down extremely hard on. I doubt more and more well see any real rebellion to what's happening to us and that COVID was the very moment they found out just how easy to manipulate the population truly was.

Let it be known that the biggest controversy of lockdown was the fact that some MP's had a party and not the loss of jobs, borderline forced vaccination and masking and all the people who were jailed.

It helps to remember any potential backlash was mitigated by 'bribes'. They spent 70B on paying 80% of the wages for furloughed workers I.E. people forced to remain at home were paid for nothing, which was 12 million people. 28B on the self-employed, and an extra 9B on giving the unemployed even more money. I think people are willing to go along with whatever bullshit the government might want if they give financial incentive and couple it with co-ordinated media campaigns to inspire fear — which was all the rage when Covid first emerged — but if people become generally more disbelieving of what you and media have to say and you don't dangle the carrot of free money in front of them, I don't think people's instincts are naturally compliance, even with Southport in mind. Whilst I could serve an anecdote of violating lockdown rules and gatherings more than a handful of times and not getting caught, plenty of people were caught and fined for violating the rules (no jail time though), and I'm partially convinced based on my experience that this number is probably a lot higher; I just don't think many people were caught. Seeing my grandmother act shocked at Boris and Gove violating the rules on gatherings, knowing full well over the period she still had drinks at the family gatherings every Wednesday (herself, her two daughters, grandson, two friends) was kind of funny. I think the controversy with the MPs might've helped people realise in hindsight how unnecessary it all was which I do think is helping feed into long-term discontentment with the government as a whole.

Amin Yasister · Mar 28, 2025

Funny how so many people I knew broke the "rules" yet would not admit to doing so.

I got nothing out of Covid financially. I was not working at all, so could not be furloughed. Nor on benefits. Nor vaccinated. So how much did I personally cost the government?

anklyscr · Mar 28, 2025

Serious question time. Where is implying’s avatar from?

>IMPLYING · Mar 28, 2025

Overly Serious said:
It just can't be naive Pollyanna optimism. It needs to be mixed with a little stubborn orneriness, but you can effect change without it.

Yeah, I was aware that my post could come off as a little too optimistic, but despite the impression it might give I don't think good fortune will just fall onto our collective laps without some kind of action, and just because you have hope doesn't mean you should let it numb you to the actions of the government. I get all of that, truly. I just think a little optimism is necessary to some extent if only because too much fatalism/cynicism puts you into the miserable corner of unwilling yet accepting of things, leading to inaction and the idea that nothing can be done about the current state of affairs, when I personally think the outlook could be considered bright when you consider all the factors (which I always try to list off in my posts). By painting the government as an obvious evil in your mind, seeing a lack of immediate action from the rest of the country, it breeds the mindset that nobody is actually angry or prepared to do anything about it; so why bother? You are enlightened, everybody else is in the dark, and it's going to stay that way — which is as cynical as it is self-fellating.

My Rotherham example was also chosen because it was probably the most well known, and I think it highlighted what I believe is the prime issue as to why the country's in the gutter. My 'defence' of police officers meanwhile was just the result of me arguing devil's advocate; Heal was a member of the police and advanced her concerns to the higher ups and it fell on deaf ears, so how many also showed concern but were similarly ignored that we don't know about? It was asking an open question because making an absolute statement on all the police doesn't account for exceptions, that's all. I also tried to end it on some optimism because Rotherham was a very miserable and horrid situation, and like you said with the LBC host, revealed just how outwardly malevolent some people are. Even then, that to me is still a symptom of what I was discussing. That host was likely of a similar mindset to the council members and police who disparaged the evidence and allegations to begin with, and their attempt to pin blame on the parents is just them trying to absolve themselves of responsibility, justify a lack of action and most pathetically, try to take some of the responsibility away from the Pakistani men responsible for the sake of optics and protecting themselves from backlash. I knew that concluding with "Everybody involved utterly failed at their job out of self-interest, laziness and fear", whilst still supporting my initial argument, would leave the prime takeaways being that the system is too broken to be repaired and there's nobody in this country worth supporting who's apart of it. Highlighting the fact a few people doing their jobs is all it took to undermine those who otherwise would've seen it buried was my meagre attempt to provide a silver lining, as tone deaf and out of place as it might be when attached to Rotherham of all things, which I do apologise for.

Anyway, I'm glad my posts help make you feel a bit better. I know not everyone bothers to read them, which is understandable since I'm prone to rambling.
Thank you.

Kier Starmer · Mar 28, 2025

Implying's avatar looks like Tom Holland, but I know it is not.

As for Doyle leaving, he essentially absorbed a lot of Sue Gray's responsibilities, and it seems to be quite a demanding job, but you are privy to A LOT of secret information. I imagine he heard some horrifying things, and to some with a conscience, it weighs heavily on the soul.

I have a feeling Doyle may have been the leaker or one of them who is actively cock-blocking Starmer and Reeves which I say good on him. At least undermine the system to disturb as much as possible. From the accounts I have read of people working with Starmer, he is unbearable to work with, and it seems people think he is very dumb.

After the abysmal Spring Statement and various laws coming in before May, I think the political field is going to be very choppy. Starmer is going to learn that having the majority means nothing when it is on sand. The cabinet seems incredibly divided too, and Reeves is trying to cosy up to Raynor to prevent the damage but she is spoilt goods and a victim. Mammood is fucked too the sentencing council essentially said she was powerless.

I ended up having a good talk with my neighbours, and they said it feels like something is going to happen, but they don't know what.

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Gian-Luca Caluga

FedPostalService

Delivering threats in Minecraft

BongoMongo

Amin Yasister

UselessRubberKeyboard

Jet Set Neowilly

Overdrive

Otterly

Primark Primarch

A-Logato

I was doing it before it was uncool

Whoopsie Daisy

close

teriyakiburns

JUST BRING THE SANDWICH!

Spud

Don your spiritual armour, there's no time.

Whoopsie Daisy

Amin Yasister

Overly Serious

>IMPLYING

Amin Yasister

anklyscr

Seriously. Tits on a ghost

>IMPLYING

Kier Starmer

PM of Island of Strangers