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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs
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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Your comment made me choke on my Irn Bru, Bravo. The sugar free version does not taste like shit either. I rank it with the king of sugar-free sodas, Pepsi Max.
I only drink the 1901 remix irn bru. It has more sugar than coca cola, but it's made in scotland, from GRRDRRS.
 
collective balls seem to have magically disappeared over night.
Answer = Welfare state encouraging dependence on state and fostering trust in government since it shows a willingness to help people + relative freedom* (Relative freedom compared to today. And if America is a '1' in freedom as a baseline, then Europe prior to the late 80s to the mid 2000s might've been somewhere between 0.7 to 0.9. Gun ownership was still somewhat possible, most states having small asterisks such as requiring certificates, background checks, etcetera. Only country comparable to the USA on guns is Czechia/Czech republic) + things not being too awful yet (prior to the 2000s)
 
@>IMPLYING you don't have to write us the bible to tell us that the scum in government are a load of idiots.
 
@>IMPLYING i am not reading allat. tldr please <3
READ NIGGA...


Okay:
TLDR: The government is so based on keeping up the illusion of doing something, display regular bouts of incompetency, and vastly overestimate their own capabilities on a regular basis that fear shouldn't be the first emotion that people experience when it comes to shit like the Online Safety Act alongside other attempts to impose limits on speech. Be angry, yes, but don't overestimate the government's capabilities, knowledge and determination to pursue people like the users here since it might lead to inaction and self-censorship. Instead of thinking of the government as a single entity with a unified purpose, regard it as a collective of the selfish and lazy numbering in the millions who continuously try to pawn off responsibilities to other government bodies rather than do anything themselves.

I posit that stuff like the Online Safety Act is the government trying to show that it's keeping the promise to protecting children and young girls (which was promised 8 years ago by the last government probably because of Lucy McHugh's murder), showing their slowness and inefficiency, and putting the responsibility of making sure that the "whole internet is safe" onto Ofcom which is why Null received the latter. It's essentially doomed to fail but the government can still reason that they 'tried'. Ofcom is lazy too since the letters also pawned the responsibility of assessing the risk of the website onto the owners rather than do it independently, and they know their task is busywork at best. It also comes at a time when the government is trying to pin a lot of violence on misogyny so I think they're trying to pin the blame for violence against women to a few specific websites and individuals they can tar as being responsible, just so they can proclaim mission accomplished if those sites get banned (or don't)

If the government was trying to keep people stupid (by restricting the flow of info) and afraid (scaring them into compliance by punishing certain speech), and create a tyrannical state, they failed because restricting info meant people weren't even aware there was something to be afraid of to begin with (people were more afraid of not paying the TV Licence than saying no-no shit because free speech incidents would cause the anger they're trying to avoid). Most people aren't aware they'll get thrown in prison for typing racial slurs on the internet. Those few that do get arrested number in single digits per year because they're the easiest to arrest due to easily accessible info, which I think is further effort of the government and law enforcement only ever putting in the bare minimum to do anything. Most people don't even know it's good practice to vary their passwords. I reasoned if the government was trying to prevent widespread access to the internet and prevent discontent, the time to pass such a bill would've been during the lockdowns when people had nothing to do but use it.

I raised the point that the Southport riots exposed the fragility of the state in maintaining order (there aren't enough police to sufficiently cover protests and riots of that scale), and the non-arrests of the earlier gypsy rioters but arrests of the former exposed the political class as being decades out of date compared to the people they represent. Also showed a failure to keep people meek and compliant. I argue that this is representative of things to come and the overall reliance the government has on maintaining an illusion of power but it's really all a façade. If the government wanted to create a hyper nightmare police state, then they could've done it with relative ease had they fixed the single issue anybody cared about: immigration. All the limits on free speech and other restrictions are at risk of becoming undone due to the average voter making immigration the sole issue they cared about and the government doing nothing at all to fix it.

I then ended on a sperg about Rotherham and tried to calculate how few people out of hundreds or thousands actually did their jobs, which I used to support the idea that so few people whose job it is to keep the country running are actually doing so, and individual selfishness and laziness is more to blame for why we are where we are than a concerted, unified effort to turn the state into something Orwellian. But I also used it to end on a hopeful note that if so few people are all it takes to undo the efforts of the selfish and lazy, then things aren't so insurmountable; further adding that the dominoes that led to Rotherham becoming widespread knowledge in 2010-11 started falling in 1997, so who knows what dominoes to whatever development have already started falling.

TLDRTTLDR: Most people working for/in government are ego driven and lazy. Restrictions on freedom are a by-product of trying to fix a problem 'easily' (Banning racist speech = eliminating racism). Retards and the uninformed (most people) who don't know the country has tons of censorship and a lack of free speech protections but hate immigration and immigrants (almost most people) will save it. It only takes a few good, capable people to bring about positive change.
 
And if you wondered if it couldn't get any worse? Well guess what there's more!

"Ninja swords will be banned by this summer"

I'd say total weeaboo death on the British Isle but they just took away their Katanas to commit Seppuku with.
one pajeet shitskin gets stabbed by two other pajeet shitskins, the UK then proceeds to take more knives away from whites.

reminder keir starmer is married to a fucking jew, literally. had the whole jew ceremonies in the prime minister office since taking office.
 
one pajeet shitskin gets stabbed by two other pajeet shitskins, the UK then proceeds to take more knives away from whites.

reminder keir starmer is married to a fucking jew, literally. had the whole jew ceremonies in the prime minister office since taking office.
Ah yes, the timeless Jewish activity of importing millions of violent islamists that would start nuclear war if it meant killing all jews.

Just accept that Anglos are buckbroken
 
Your comment made me choke on my Irn Bru, Bravo. The sugar free version does not taste like shit either. I rank it with the king of sugar-free sodas, Pepsi Max.
I'm an absolute fiend for sugar free soft drinks, but I'm sorry, Irn Bru is best full sugar. Diet Coke is clearly the superior sugar free drink.
 
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https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1905381203496087893

The Government is considering giving HMRC powers to demand more personal info from banks about the amount of savings people have, including linking it to National Insurance numbers to tax savings out of payslips

yay...
Really does feel like the beginning of the end in a way. They're trying to scrounge and snatch as much as they can from people, no matter the amount. On benefits I know you can have 6k in savings before they stop giving you money, but you could in theory just withdraw it all or transfer it to another account and then they resume sending money. To me that sounds like at the moment they only see your balance but can't see where you're sending the money to. If you 're sending that cash to your Paypal account, then get your bennies, you could viably work your way up to thousands more than what you're technically allowed to have. Could be wrong on that possibility completely I'm not familiar with that they can already track.
 
Your comment made me choke on my Irn Bru, Bravo. The sugar free version does not taste like shit either. I rank it with the king of sugar-free sodas, Pepsi Max.
I can't drink Irn Bru at all after they bent the to the sugar tax mongs and ruined it. Total Irn bru Death.
know I'm naturally the one who has the most optimism as indicated by my posts, so my perception of things might be worthless
Yeah, no one is reading all that. Stop writing dissertations, no one cares or will read it.
I was hoping Null's bending the knee to Ofcom would have reduced the nonsense in this thread.
This is a Greggs, sir.
 
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