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Oy vey goyim.
You don't like Massie's retarded 90's Republican takes on "dUh FrEe MaRkEt" therefore you agree with my people's crusade against him for not toeing the line to suck our dick. Oy vey he has reasonable takes about dual citizenship? Quick, here's this random ass Rabbi concerned about his constituents not being allowed to go to jewish church while incarcerated, surely you'll care now because of freedom of religion now please ignore that nobody else gets released from prison just to go to church and never has.
This is the type of low IQ wignat response I'm talking about btw. The guy doesn't understand what he's talking about, doesn't understand the role of a prison chaplain, but knows that massa Massie can't be wrong.

this particular dude already went on about serving the IDF
i served yes

fake Oct 7 nonsense
You mean how Hamas filmed themselves massacring Israelis and who specifically targeted civilian targets?

The source of the Jew mistrust in Central Europe that manifested in the 20th century largely originated in the German Unification wars of the 19th century.
more wignat bs considering that Jews were overrepresented in the Austro-Hungarian army in WW1 and were particularly overrepresented in the amount of medals earned for valor.

If, for some reason, the USA and Israel went to war, which side would you be on?
It really depends on the reason for the war. If it's some dumb stuff like Iraq then I wouldn't support it.

Dual loyalties cannot be tolerated or trusted. Simple as.
Look at US history. Up until the civil war, people were more loyal to their states than to the Union and were considered members of their state first, members of the Union second. Look at Robert E Lee who only joined the Confederates because his state of Virginia chose to join the Confederacy. The majority of founding fathers held dual loyalty by your standards.
 
It's being reported that Trump really has pardoned Trevor Milton, the scammer behind the Nikola EV fraud. This pardon was straight-up bought and is indefensible.
I would have cared like five years ago but the pardon of the insanely and indisputablely guilty Hunter Biden has deadened me.

I'm uninterested in pretending the system isn't corrupt and pay to play now and futile wails appealing to my empathy and sense of honor will not work.
 
Congratulations, you've discovered Communism. I'm not being facetious when I say this either. That is the exact logical thinking that Karl Marx used to convince and sell people on Communism. He would argue things like this to start the process of grooming people. I went through this exact same process and discussions in grade school. We had this exact discussion to groom us into thinking Communism was a good thing. It's a lead in. It was always a midwit argument.

The reality is, nigger ball players HAVE to get paid that much money. Why? Well, if they didn't and I could get a career and make 60k per year as opposed to playing Niggerball, for a 2 year contract of Niggerball my salary would have to exceed that 60k. Plus the costs of travelling around constantly and security detail as now you're celebrity. However, the most important cost of all: Time and Health. If I'm playing Niggerball for ten years, that's ten years I could be doing a career. Ten years of Niggerball at let's say 60k, is 600,000. So I better be getting paid at least that 600k. Now let's talk about injury. Niggerball players put their bodies at risk and get potentially life altering injuries. Depending on the sport, they straight up have shortened lifespans. Many niggerball players are dropping dead by 60-70 or have serious issues due to the strain on your body. If you don't have wealth, you're absolutely fucked. And what happens then? No one plays Niggerball. Anyone smart, wouldn't play Niggerball. You're reducing your lifespan and subjecting yourself to potentially serious life altering injuries. That burden is all on you. You're taking those millions in exchange for suing the Niggerball League. Which normally would pay out the ass otherwise, but it's cheaper to pay you millions now than leave themselves open to injury lawsuits later.

Everything is the way it is for a reason. Nothing is without a reason. Also, some janitors are paid exceedingly well.
In communism everyone are bugs and no one makes anything more than their neighbor no matter what they do with their time, and they are forced to be happy with owning nothing in the sake of "fairness". The elites in government and their toads are the only people in communism who reap any benefits, which tbh isn't much different than how America usually is these days which is my issue in the first place. I don't care what communists say to convince you, it's still lies and not what communism actually is because communists can't tell you the truth because no one would go for it, and yeah paying people what they are worth is very appealing to literally anyone across the planet. And no, boomers underpaying hard working essential to society jobs isn't some anti-communist 4-D chess move, it's just corruption, rotten morals, and greed. The boomers, jews, and all other rich bosses that cheat their employees everyday would be very giddy to see your defense "No goy, I will not pay you a fair wage for your torturous work no one wants to do but must be done, that would be communism, child. You don't want communism in America do you?"
 
Look at US history. Up until the civil war, people were more loyal to their states than to the Union and were considered members of their state first, members of the Union second. Look at Robert E Lee who only joined the Confederates because his state of Virginia chose to join the Confederacy. The majority of founding fathers held dual loyalty by your standards.

Remind me what country people in any state in the US are a citizen of?

Not going to answer if you'd serve America at the expense of Israel are you?

Dude it is completely fucking pathetic and predictable that you do these Jew mental gymnastics. You always do. You are 100% incapable of answering this question honestly.

Eat a dick.
 
It really depends on the reason for the war. If it's some dumb stuff like Iraq then I wouldn't support it.

Let's just say, hypothetically, you have only two realistic options, you either work for US intelligence to spy on Israel, or you work for Israeli intelligence to spy on the USA.

Which do you choose? "Neither" is not an option.
 
Look at US history. Up until the civil war, people were more loyal to their states than to the Union and were considered members of their state first, members of the Union second. Look at Robert E Lee who only joined the Confederates because his state of Virginia chose to join the Confederacy. The majority of founding fathers held dual loyalty by your standards.

Dawg I respect you, you’ve caught some bad assumptions of mine and refuted them with actual evidence to the contrary, but this argument makes no sense. You’re conflating dual loyalties to nation-states with loyalty to a province within a nation-state. I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here, but this reads like you’re either being deliberately disingenuous or you’re sincerely misinformed.

The founding fathers were all Englishmen, but the Revolutionary War and the 1783 treaty of Paris meant that all the founding fathers were now American and no longer British. The states here in the USA are analogous to provinces within a broader nation-state. The civil war was a war between provinces and the factions they pledged loyalty to, to paint with a really large brush.

The big issue with people in federal, state/provincial, and municipal office who have dual loyalties to different nation states is self-evident: being in office within one nation-state does not abdicate you of your perceived or actual obligations to another. On principle, dual loyalties to different nation states is a conflict of interest that cannot be tolerated.

As an example, my home state of New York is in hot water right now because one of Hochul’s cronies (Linda Sun) was an actual CPC informant and gave information to the mainland while subtly altering policy priorities in NYS to favour China over Taiwan. Eric Adams in NYC is also facing a corruption probe thanks to his dealings with the Turkish embassy, so that’s even more appalling.

Ignoring my biases against Israel, it should stand to reason that if we won’t tolerate CPC informants or BJP cronies in US elected office, much less Turkish ambassadors trying to curry favour in high-value municipalities, we should also hold that same level of distaste for Israeli citizens seeking office here too, or otherwise trying to seek favour in whatever ways they see fit.
 
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Remind me what country people in any state in the US are a citizen of?
Missed the point entirely.

Let's just say, hypothetically, you have only two realistic options, you either work for US intelligence to spy on Israel, or you work for Israeli intelligence to spy on the USA.

Which do you choose? "Neither" is not an option.
US intelligence.

what's really fun to notice is the stuff he DOESNT respond to at all
I'm not replying to the same question x3
 
The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles one's hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday's defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I was dumbfounded. I do not know what amazed me the more--the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods. I gradually came to hate them.

There was a guy who already figured out you are wasting your time and even wrote it down for you as a warning.
 
Let's just say, hypothetically, you have only two realistic options, you either work for US intelligence to spy on Israel, or you work for Israeli intelligence to spy on the USA.

Which do you choose? "Neither" is not an option.
I would personally do both. I would be like James Bond except like, mentally handicapped because both my bosses would be so confused at my overall goal and mission. But man, first thing I would be like "Hello hot IDF lady soldier. Let's go back to your place, have some kehaflrfafjdia or whatever you jews eat, perhaps some wine, and talk about the universal language, love." while getting those sweet deets. Then, back home, I would do the same with American politician women being like "Yo, bitch. Let's raw dog behind the arbys and talk about your agenda." while drunk on 40/40.

Either way, I'm getting paid, and nothing gets accomplished, which is the ultimate dream of every worker.
 
If you don't already have a gym membership what are you doing with your life, unless of course you just don't have the time.
A married man, with three kids, an annoying wife, two dogs, and a 60-hour job can still afford three/four hours a week to work out.
a pair of dumbbells and the most basic bitch stationary bike combined should cost appx $100 and then you have it at home
I keep a spare pair at work in my office, so when I'm watching a file process for a minute and a half I can get in some of those Shieky Baby rolling lift things
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