The Charity

[PixarsTedKennedy]

Honesty, with as anti-trans as the Trump administration is, I think an appeal to his people, especially the department of the treasury, chamber of commerce, small business administration, etc... might be worthwhile. I mean, what is the loss if they ignore the request or they tell you no? Nothing is lost. Hell, ask for an in-person meeting with the Senator of the state the organization is based in, especially if they are a Republican.

Trump doesn't care about anyone that can't help him in return.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Can't hurt to actually look into it and find out.

It's complicated, starting an offshore entity with a Mossack Fonseca was advertised at approximately $1,500/y but actual costs of running it were effectively around $20,000/y at absolute minimum. Null's special status as being the pariah of the tech and government sectors in the US may raise the prices or simply make business with him unprofitable. Also, the issue is that Null would not use the account to obfuscate his wealth but rather use it to raise funding. This is not a service these banks want to specialize in. Using such banks is also not easy at all and leads to additional headaches.

Alternatively, he could look into financial services used by other unconventional high-risk clients. Consider the adult industry. In my personal opinion, Null is hopelessly fucked and should never hope for receiving services from the financial sector. There is absolutely zero value in dealing with him in any way. Sorry.

 

[GunCar Gary]

ok lets start fundraising for the KiwiFarms bank

I'll kick in the first 100 million, who will match me!

to defeat the jew you must become the jew

ironic

 

[Mound Dweller]

Rules never meant anything and your constitutional rights ain't worth the shit you wipe off of your arse with them.
We will always be the Internet's niggers just gotta make peace with that and carry on sneeding.

 

[ApplewhitesSummerCamp]

Bank accounts and payment processors do underwriting. You can and will be denied for a bank account. BofA refused us at first too.

BofA these nuts, heh

As awful as it is the only course of action at this point seems to be to have some kind of proxy person like that previous mail situation (if that ever happened like it was planned). Can't imagine how impossible it would be to find someone that trustworthy, however.

What a scary reality to be more financially restricted than terrorists and other undesirables for the sole reason of having so many dedicated detractors. Shadow Money Null Gang when

 

[Null]

It's complicated, starting an offshore entity with a Mossack Fonseca is advertised at approximately $1,500/y but actual costs of running it effectively are basically around $20,000/y at absolute minimum. Null's special status as being the pariah of the tech and government sectors in the US may raise the prices or simply make business with him unprofitable. Also, the issue is that Null would not use the account to obfuscate his wealth but rather use it to raise funding. This is not a service these banks want to specialize in. Using such banks is also not easy at all and leads to additional headaches.

Alternatively, he could look into financial services used by other unconventional high-risk clients. Consider the adult industry. In my personal opinion, Null is hopelessly fucked and should never hope for receiving services from the financial sector. There is absolutely zero value in dealing with him in any way. Sorry.

can you retards stop talking about BANK ACCOUNTS? It's PAYMENT PROCESSING. There's no off-shore payment processor, it's still always Mastercard/Visa.

 

['Ole Dente]

Is it over? That's it? Why are you more blacklisted than other people like you? Tf did you do Jersh?

There is, idealistically, how we’d like the world to work. We’d love to rigidly hold to good values and stand our ground, live our lives with our knees out of the dirt and our pride secured.

Then there’s how the world actually works. It’s dirty, you have to be friends with faggots, you have to swallow pride and occasionally eat some shit and sometimes you’ve gotta settle for less.

One of those options gets you blackballed at every turn.

 

[Hatter]

What does this mean?
Kiwifarms kill?

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Think of the worst of the worst and contact them asking who they payment process with.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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So, honestly, I'm at a loss. I don't have the clout to do anything about this and the organization I'm making to gain the clout in order to try and persuade the government to protect financial rights can't be banked, so I can't raise money, so I can't even effectively petition the government. I feel this rises to the level violation of fundamental human rights at this point, and there's nothing to be done about it.

It sucks to suggest because its literally tilting at windmills and destined for failure barring a miracle, but you could try suing the Comptroller of Currency. Technically its their job to make sure people have fair access to banking services, but there is no law that defines what "fair" is. So you would have to make a "rights" argument under the Constitution. You may have an "in" with President Trumps executive orders on financial fairness, which could possibly get you a Writ of Mandamus to compel the OCC to tell the banks to knock it off in your case specifically. Again though, esoteric lawfare that doesn't have much precedent and strays pretty close to Sov-Cit territory lolsuits.

But then you case truly is a Kafka tier nightmare of impenetrable beaurocracy and catch-22's.

 

[Null]

Think of the worst of the worst and contact them asking who they bank with.

holy shit I am going to fucking strangle you fucking retards

 

[Depressed_Oni]

Shot in the dark, again I am retarded, but have you consulted a financial advisor about the documentation submitted? I know their blanket response could be that they are targeting you, but 501(c)s are known to be high risk, there may be a way to pad down some of the “risk” to verify if it’s just them denying you just for KF.

 

[gagabobo1997]

when do we fly to DC and start holding up signs outside of congress? that or outside some payment processor HQ

 

[Mound Dweller]

It sucks to suggest because its literally tilting at windmills and destined for failure barring a miracle

What's doomed to despair is any attempt whatsoever at cracking the nut of institutional finance, it doesn't matter what's "right", the only solution is crypto/literal gold bars and it's folly to pretend otherwise IMO.

 

[Null]

but 501(c)s are known to be high risk

huh??? there's 3 people cosigning this, it has zero risk

 

[Preacher ✝]

He uses https://valmarmerchants.com/. Their CEO ghosted me.

If its not an outright denial I'd say keep poking him until you get a real answer. Maybe have Hardin send him a fancy lawyer letter.

 

[Captain Ahab]

There’s no other choice. You have to come out as trans.

 

[biglurker]

Please be patient as I have no idea what I am talking about:
Is it possible to meet with these people in person to try and establish services?
Someone might be more whiling to at least give you more information as to what they want face to face.

 

[Null]

It sucks to suggest because its literally tilting at windmills and destined for failure barring a miracle, but you could try suing the Comptroller of Currency. Technically its their job to make sure people have fair access to banking services, but there is no law that defines what "fair" is. So you would have to make a "rights" argument under the Constitution. You may have an "in" with President Trumps executive orders on financial fairness, which could possibly get you a Writ of Mandamus to compel the OCC to tell the banks to knock it off in your case specifically. Again though, esoteric lawfare that doesn't have much precedent and strays pretty close to Sov-Cit territory lolsuits.

But then you case truly is a Kafka tier nightmare of impenetrable beaurocracy and catch-22's.

I like this idea. I think I'd need some commitments from the culturewars slop youtubers before I commit to the litigation.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

@Null
I'm no doubt re-inventing the wheel here, but you may want to try specific payment processors for high risk businesses. The ones I know about are Durango Merchant Services, PayKings, Instabill, Soar Payments, and PaymentCloud. They all tend to have higher fees and some other specific downsides:

-Durango: no up front pricing, gotta negotiate directly and they can have steep fees depending on your risk profile.
-PayKings: tiered pricing, long 3 year contracts with early termination fees
-Instabill: rolling reserves required, plus sometimes they have slow payouts and bad communication
-Soar Payments: not super transparent about fees
-PaymentCloud: you need a monthly minimum and their onboarding can be slow as fuck