AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

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I can't see why that would be relevant for my analogy.
Okay so can you explain when or how the invention of anything spontaneously destroyed all demand for labor in one area without subsequently creating any new need for labor in any other area? All you've really stated is that scribes are out of a job because we made printing presses, without acknowledging that demand for metal working and manufacturing have gone up proportionally due to the operating requirements and resource costs of these new fangled printing presses.
 
Okay so can you explain when or how the invention of anything spontaneously destroyed all demand for labor in one area without subsequently creating any new need for labor in any other area? All you've really stated is that scribes are out of a job because we made printing presses, without acknowledging that demand for metal working and manufacturing have gone up proportionally due to the operating requirements and resource costs of these new fangled printing presses.
I just don't see which opportunities for work will the mass adoption of neural networks create.
Manufacturing semiconductors? They've been in high demand for the last ten years, yet I don't see any new companies springing into existence, most of chips are still produced in Taiwan.
Maintaining data centers? A single data center will be processing requests of millions of people, yet how many are required to maintain it? A hundred at most? Several hundreds?
"Prompt engineering"? Prompt engineering is meant to augment/replace existing jobs. For example, you could fire half of mid-level programmers cause now you have tools like Claude which can generate code and debug faster than a human programmer. And yes, it's pretty primitive now and it has problems with large codebases, but seeing how quickly this tech has been developing, I'm sure these problems will be solved in ten years or so.
Yeah, they can also be a lot of things, like a consumer, labor, owner, researcher, or any other participants of the economy. Humans can adapt, horses don't.
Yes, adapt to losing your white-collar job by becoming an uber driver. Or getting an education at a trade school and becoming an electrician. But don't ask how it will affect blue-collar wages when millions of others that lost their jobs to AI, decide to do the same.
 
Being negatively affected by something is actually a heckin good thing as long as it also causes suffering to another demographic which I dislike.
(which is more than likely a simulacrum constructed inside my head from incessant exposure to ragebait and propaganda)
If you think like this, hard reboot your brain immediately. Owning the Libs Syndrome is a gateway to losing every gram of sincerity you have.
Okay so can you explain when or how the invention of anything spontaneously destroyed all demand for labor in one area without subsequently creating any new need for labor in any other area?
Classic thought terminating cliche, politicians like this argument because they never had to get into the numbers of how new tech "creates jobs".
It's simply not proportional, the one prompt monkey replaces a dozen concept artists and graphic designers, the one foreman at the automated robotic production line at a factory replaces an entire shift of low skill workers.
I do not doubt that some will use the opportunities afforded by technological advancement to secure new job positions and upward social mobility, but most people won't. That's how every technological revolution has worked.
 
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Classic thought terminating cliche, politicians like this argument because they never had to get into the numbers of how new tech "creates jobs".
It's simply not proportional
So where is Jobageddon? How come we haven't run out of jobs yet? Is it just about to happen? Is it far off? Are we in a golden age right now where demand is relatively perfectly met by supply, just before the fall? Is this a new phenomenon or in the olden days was there simply not enough labor to ever suffice demand, as though this issue is a downtrending line that started way up high but is soon to intersect and fall below the job/available labor ratio threshold? You point out graphic artists and concept designers being replaced with a guy with AI, but you don't acknowledge that increased AI demand means increased power consumption, computer production, IT work, etc. I never said these new jobs were related or could be filled by the same people or that it was somehow perfectly equivilant, but they are making new jobs by virtue of shifts in demand in other fields nonetheless. The production line being automated introduces a plethora of new demands related to the very production, design, and maintenance of that production machinery, not to mention potential avenues of research and development to improve that machinery, and there are inevitably many more ways other fields will be affected, large and small that we simply aren't considering. You're proposing that this is an unsustainable cycle that forecasts an inevitable and unavoidable hard logistical problem we are going to run into simply by the natural advancement of technology. This has never been the case.
 
A lot of the anti-AI arguments are just a rehash of "MP3 downloading will kill music" & "people recording movies on their VCR or radio songs on their stereo will kill home media sales", neither of which were true, but now the narrative is pushed by "the little guy" so it's seen as a worthy cause. And by "little guy I mean "dude who decided that selling unauthorized fan art commissions was better than filling out a job application". That was never a viable long-term option anyway. IP holders have been trying to criminalize unauthorized usage- ACTA, SOPA, TPP, etc- and may get that under Trump(his music copyright law thing was a start- Obama pushed TPP as a big pill, Trump broke it into pieces essier to swallow). They should worry more about that than some program letting end users generate easy content. We already have the major AI programs blocking copyrighted content.
 
I would be fine with limiting AI art if these people weren't so goddamn annoying. It's gotten bad to the point where they get triggered when they see people using it for fun.

I don't think these people will be on the right side of history when this all blows over, ironic as that is.
Its inevitably some artust shithead whining that AI used their art to train without permission despite their art being drawn without permission of the IP owner. I'd love to see fanart & fanfic crushed by big companies just to see idiots rage.
 
Bbno$, maker of barely listenable music, MoistCritical's fuckbuddy, and crossdresser has been farming engagement for the past day after a Xeet of his shitting on AI art blew up. No doubt this is due to the recent Ghiblification trend.
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InZoi is a Sims clone but with fancy generative AI features. Looks very cool for early access. Most importantly though, there are faggots seething in the reviews:
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and some X posts:
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FYI, the game has been out for two days and already has 8.2k reviews and a very positive rating:
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been a rough week for AI haters for sure
 
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I have nothing to contribute right now, but I just want to say that seeing artists on X seethe about the ghibli filter stuff fills me with joy
Its funny to see all the retards on Reddit trying to ban AI to thinking it will make a difference.
InZoi is a Sims clone but with fancy generative AI features. Looks very cool for early access. Most importantly though, there are faggots seething in the reviews:

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As a gay ""female"" every women I even say hello to instantly disliked me
Average troon experience.
 
Any weeb that isn't a beginner doesn't like Miyazaki because he shat on Otaku culture since the 80s.
Otaku culture is shit, though.
Funny as fuck seeing these arttroons seethe about "muh property" when one of Picasso's most notable quotes is "good artists copy, great artists steal".
Most of the ones complaining steal other people's copyrighted characters and get commissioned to make disgusting porn of them for repulsive gooners to splooge over.
I don't think these people will be on the right side of history when this all blows over, ironic as that is.
Followers of Ned Ludd NEVER end up on the right side of history. Just left dead in a ditch by the side of the road.
 
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Why do NPC's hate AI so much
Like @Air support says, change is scary and AI is something very new and different.
There have also been dozens of sci-fi stories for decades about AI and the majority of them make it out to be something evil that will end humanity.
Lot's of people have a (justified) hate for modern tech companies and don't realize that there are lots of open source and indie AI companies.
 
A thought popped up when I saw the ghibli seethe:
The most frustrating yet satisfying part of the whole anti-ai cult is that the venn diagram of the anti ai people & the "gatekeeping is lame, let people enjoy things! Things should be for everyone!" crowd is nearly a circle.

It's pure hypocrisy.
There's now a legitimate way for genuinely disabled people (be it amputees, those with impaired motor functions, those who are paralyzed, etc) to express themselves creatively.
And expressing your creativity/having an outlet for creativity is something these same anti-ai people would definitely see as something very important.

It's the people who spent years taking a sledgehammer to everything from subcultures to hobbies to mental & physical illnesses getting a taste of their own medicine. It's frustrating because they'll never ever see it that way through their own hubris but it's satisfying nonetheless.
 
There's now a legitimate way for genuinely disabled people (be it amputees, those with impaired motor functions, those who are paralyzed, etc) to express themselves creatively.
Are you really expressing yourself creatively if you're having a computer draw it for you?
 
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