The Charity

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

I'd need a custodian and there's no chance it'd get underwritten.

your lawyer can't be the custodian? I've heard it done with elderly people.

 

[Rick The Stick]

My admittedly half-baked thought was that if X was to significantly signal-boost Null’s posts about this, and the public became more aware, companies might feel, not a sense of shame (these people are incapable), but more of an obligation to stop fucking with him without even justifying their actions. The DOGE team members might be sympathetic enough to be able to make Elon take an interest.

Of course in my personal dreamland Elon would crack open the payment processing cartel with a competitor that didn’t punish people for legal speech. He’s one of very few people with the money to do it.

We know he says he’s big on free speech. Stranger things have happened. Whoever thought he would have actually bought Twitter? I know I didn’t, I thought he was just trolling. Then he did it and BAM I got my accounts back.

What’s the worst that can happen if Null got this issue onto his radar? He doesn’t care and nothing is lost? I have hope that he could care. We’re a bunch of autists who hate trannies and DEI, we’re practically his people.

You've gotta be absolutely fucking retarded to think Elon cares about anything more than gaining even more power and wealth for himself.

 

[Null]

your lawyer can't be the custodian? I've heard it done with elderly people.

it would still need to go through underwriting which is currently the problem.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

I told you they were coming to get your ass.

For real though. I think we can count with our fingers the places you're not blacklisted in. I'm sure you'll figure something out, you always do.

 

[Optavia Sales Rep]

Removing Null from an official position isn't going to work. It would only hurt USIPS in the long run. Trannies would never stop screaming that Null working in the background makes the whole organization untrustworthy. It's bad optics and people need to stop suggesting it.

The only way out is through.

Null knows what he can or cannot do without us interrogating him on every application he's submitted. I trust he will be grilling them for info with every denial email he receives. My only suggestion would be to ask "What can I do to improve for future applications?" If they don't give you a placating lie, they were never going to approve you anyway.

I, myself, have no idea about new financial avenues for USIPS. What I do have is $5 and 10 minutes to waste every week:

Spoiler: Send to your Senator, House Representative, and maybe even your Governor

[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]


[Date]


The Honorable [Congressman's Full Name]
[Office Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]


Dear Representative [Last Name],


I am writing as a concerned constituent to urge your attention to an increasingly pressing issue: the need to ensure that financial institutions and payment processors operate without discrimination based on political viewpoints, religious beliefs, or positions on environmental, social, and governance (ESG) matters.


In recent years, there have been growing concerns about banks and payment service providers denying access or services to individuals and organizations due to their lawful beliefs or affiliations. Such actions raise serious questions about fairness, equal access, and the role of financial institutions in upholding—or potentially infringing upon—fundamental American freedoms.


Our financial system is a cornerstone of participation in the modern economy. Denying individuals or groups access to this system based on ideology, religious convictions, or stances on ESG issues is not only unjust, but it also sets a dangerous precedent that undermines free expression, religious liberty, and open debate.


I urge you to support or introduce legislation that protects consumers and businesses from politically or ideologically motivated financial exclusion. Financial institutions should not be arbiters of acceptable opinion. Their role must remain focused on providing lawful and equitable service, not enforcing social or political orthodoxy.


This is not a partisan issue—it is a matter of protecting the constitutional principles that form the foundation of our democracy. I appreciate your leadership and attention to this matter, and I hope you will take steps to uphold these values for all Americans.


Thank you for your time and service to our district.


Sincerely,
[Your Full Name]

If you don't have $5 and 10 minutes, I suppose you could email them instead.
Do I think it will do much?
No, probably not.
Will I do this just to inflict dread and misery on some hapless junior staffer every time they see a return address with my name?
Absolutely.

(that $20 for chatgpt was total worth it)

 

[foam rolla]

Would it help at all if Josh went blackface and maybe change his name to Joshua Coon?

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Is the issue josh is having due to payment processors, banks or both?

 

[Not a bee]

With my 20 second of Googlefu, try
Paypay or JCB. Japanese-based payment processors. (I am leaning more towards JCB.) Both are international and domestic.

With Chinese payment processors, they are becoming more international (because travel, business, etc) you can try WeChatpay, Alipay. It is kind of hard if you are not in Mainland, but worth a shot.

Zenpayments accepts high-risk businesses, I know you are above high-risk but I am just spitballing shit.

I am thinking you would want non-American/non-European, just in case.
I am sorry for the shit you are going through, I cannot imagine it. However, me and other Kiwis will be by your side. To support, (and annoy) you. We will help.

Edit; Just in case, use a VPN for the Japanese ones. Use an extension or app to translate what is said. You may want to get a ghost number for Japan or China. If this was all dogshit advice I am sorry and you can punch me virtually.

 

[Hellblazer]

Null and the Kiwi Farms as a whole are an optics nightmare. Nobody with any degree of power or influence would openly associate themselves with either.

This. Unless you can find someone who is very very independently wealthy, this is probably going to be a non starter.

The only solution I can think of is offshore banking. Switzerland, Jersey, Luxembourg... wherever.


The beast slouches onwards.

 

[BoomerSperg1922]

He uses https://valmarmerchants.com/. Their CEO ghosted me.

Out of curiosity did you actually try to use them or did you just ask and get ignored?

It would be bizarre if they let Torba use their services but not you.

At this rate your only hope seems to be fednow becoming a fully fledged payment processor/banking system itself that bars any of the big 4 from financially banning any American on penalty of THEM being barred from using it.

Though... looking into it more, it looks like the Bank of North Dakota has Fednow capabilities now. Something to think about.

 

[Dawdler]

It is bog standard for financial service providers to give generic information about why your application may have been declined and that is all they're obliged to do. You have no right to more specific information.

False
They can only operate their financial services within the limits the goverment and govermental central bank allows them to.
Approving or denying the claim is a process that has results/outcome/judgement and you have to be able to appeal it.
You have every right to receive full document that they created but kept internally.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

False
They can only operate their financial services within the limits the goverment and govermental central bank allows them to.
Approving or denying the claim is a process that has results/outcome/judgement and you have to be able to appeal it.
You have every right to receive full document that they created but kept internally.

Supposedly, you might have such a right but who is going to enforce it?

 

[Bremsspur]

Anyway, I'm looking forward to more 40 IQ suggestions tomorrow from the best minds of Kiwi Farms.

He could start an OF lmao

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Reddit will ban a pedophile/zoophile/murderer

no they won't lmao

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

The only solution I can think of is offshore banking. Switzerland, Jersey, Luxembourg... wherever.

What I previously suggested but it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue. Null is being fucked over by payment processors. Using an offshore entity would not solve the issue. All that Visa and Mastercard have to do is identify that the entity is owned by Joshua Moon and deny their services once again. It might take a while or be basically immediate. The idea is admittedly stupid. It could only work if the entity has no ties to Null which is counterproductive to his goal of raising funds.

 

[Dawdler]

So, Null's grandma from switzerland owns kiwi farms

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

So, Null's grandma from switzerland owns kiwi farms

Grandma can be debanked too.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

@Null this is maybe the only time I ever felt sorry for you, not because of the payment issue, that's funny.

However, the stupid suggestions from people are mind-numbing.
- MASSIVE HILARIOUS LIST
Anyway, I'm looking forward to more 40 IQ suggestions tomorrow from the best minds of Kiwi Farms.

What if Null made his own currency that rivaled the American Dollar?
That way his face is on all the money, they wouldn't possibly deny him then! He'd be too important to turn away

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

View attachment 7148590

https://x.com/usipsorg/status/1905621992432185512

So, honestly, I'm at a loss. I don't have the clout to do anything about this and the organization I'm making to gain the clout in order to try and persuade the government to protect financial rights can't be banked, so I can't raise money, so I can't even effectively petition the government. I feel this rises to the level violation of fundamental human rights at this point, and there's nothing to be done about it.

Sorry to hear this.
I've tried to send you a small amount of bitcoin to the kf adress.
I'll try to do this monthly from now on.
I checked if there was a crypto address on the charity website but I guess there can't be one for now at least.

It is unfair.

 

[diroama]

The solution to this problem is for @Null to transition. I'm talking the works.