Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Doctor of Autism]

Some asexuals can have sex but some don't form relationships. Or long term ones. My friends asexual. He doesn't really find casual relationships cool.

Yeah like an asexual having sex may sound ridiculous but makes sense given they would either view sex more as a function to make babies or just a duty but never get enjoyment out of it. At least that's my understanding of it, but anyway feels like we're going into Deep Thoughts here

Anyway given how much Viv's fans eat her shit up, I can only dread how annoying season 3 is going to be because she really thinks this fujo shit is high art

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Anyway given how much Viv's fans eat her shit up, I can only dread how annoying season 3 is going to be because she really thinks this fujo shit is high art

Fap fodder wrapped up in a pretty bow is still fap fodder.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Remember in season 1 when both Stolas and Blitzø were versatile, and there was no stereotypical dom and sub?

Edit to avoid double-posting: I don't know why the show is trying to make Blitzø strictly a top, when he is equally about fucking and getting fucked. Hell, in the Ghostfuckers episode he was spending the majority of that time trying to find a ghost that would fuck him in the ass.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Remember in season 1 when both Stolas and Blitzø were versatile, and there was no stereotypical dom and sub?

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Remember when Ozzie's was going to set up how awkward things were for Blitzo and Stolas in the next season and it never happened

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Anyway given how much Viv's fans eat her shit up, I can only dread how annoying season 3 is going to be because she really thinks this fujo shit is high art

I thought we left Fujoshi shit in the 2010s I'm stunned this still exists and most of the consumers of this slop are children.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Yeah like an asexual having sex may sound ridiculous but makes sense given they would either view sex more as a function to make babies or just a duty but never get enjoyment out of it. At least that's my understanding of it, but anyway feels like we're going into Deep Thoughts here

Anyway given how much Viv's fans eat her shit up, I can only dread how annoying season 3 is going to be because she really thinks this fujo shit is high art

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I still think Pizza and Aussie are a worse duo. Because no one is willing to say they fucking suck ass, other than us.

 

[Catboi]

I still think Pizza and Aussie are a worse duo. Because no one is willing to say they fucking suck ass, other than us.

I miss when the sappy love-dovey relationships were considered weird and worthy of mocking. Now suddenly it's the ideal thing in hell? Despite in S1 it being stated multiple times that it's considered odd and even fucking over your partners is normal?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I still think Pizza and Aussie are a worse duo. Because no one is willing to say they fucking suck ass, other than us.

If you mean Fizz and Asmodeus, honestly Stolas and Blitzo are still worse. At least Fizz and Asmodeus are side characters that aren't taking up the entire show with their annoying relationship drama like Stolitz, not to mention its just a typical yaoi pair while Stolitz is just disgusting for the amount of abuse, fucked up power dynamics, and cheating which is all portrayed as good

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

If you mean Fizz and Asmodeus, honestly Stolas and Blitzo are still worse. At least Fizz and Asmodeus are side characters that aren't taking up the entire show with their annoying relationship drama like Stolitz, not to mention its just a typical yaoi pair while Stolitz is just disgusting for the amount of abuse, fucked up power dynamics, and cheating which is all portrayed as good

Yes, just mocking the names. And you're right, yet interestingly there is fucked power dynamics between both.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

I miss when the sappy love-dovey relationships were considered weird and worthy of mocking. Now suddenly it's the ideal thing in hell? Despite in S1 it being stated multiple times that it's considered odd and even fucking over your partners is normal?

It's funny because in the Mammon episode, when Ozzie reveals to the entire crowd that he and Fizzaroli are together, the people in the crowds are going on their phones and gushing about it over social media and talking about ship names.

And I'm thinking, okay, I know that's how the FANDOM would react to this, but the people lving in the actual universe shouldn't be acting like fangirls. At least the majority of them shouldn't be.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

I miss when the sappy love-dovey relationships were considered weird and worthy of mocking. Now suddenly it's the ideal thing in hell? Despite in S1 it being stated multiple times that it's considered odd and even fucking over your partners is normal?

Not to mention this sappy love-dovey relationship involves embodyment of Lust who's also against rape, so at the end of the day is just really kinky. It's like how Beelzebub wants people to party and drink but if someone is drinking to be self-destructive she suddenly preaches abstinence even if her episode was technically from the first season.

Out of character downgrades from S1 to S2, Ozzie doesn't get talked about enough.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Yes, just mocking the names. And you're right, yet interestingly there is fucked power dynamics between both.

Yeah though I'd say Fizz's not as bad only because it's just vanilla standard top/bottom yaoi, it is very cookie cutter shit.

Not to mention this sappy love-dovey relationship involves embodyment of Lust who's also against rape, so at the end of the day is just really kinky. It's like how Beelzebub wants people to party and drink but if someone is drinking to be self-destructive she suddenly preaches abstinence even if her episode was technically from the first season.

Out of character downgrades from S1 to S2, Ozzie doesn't get talked about enough.

As I said before the worst part about Bee and Ozzie both expressing virtues is they only do this around the main characters but it's fair game when it comes to background sinners and how Ozzie canonically probably had his products sold to sex offenders and rapists.

It's not like an exploitative sex industry is unknown given Verosika and her crew are famous succubi who've been to his club and were doing degenerate shit in the human world and a very public overlord, Valentino, has a porn industry where it's very sleazy (it's unknown if people in the public know he also kills hookers and abuses his agents).

Like it's so clear they're only presented as good guys when the main characters are around which could be fine but Viv wants the audience to also see them as good people.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Yeah though I'd say Fizz's not as bad only because it's just vanilla standard top/bottom yaoi, it is very cookie cutter shit.


As I said before the worst part about Bee and Ozzie both expressing virtues is they only do this around the main characters but it's fair game when it comes to background sinners and how Ozzie canonically probably had his products sold to sex offenders and rapists.

It's not like an exploitative sex industry is unknown given Verosika and her crew are famous succubi who've been to his club and were doing degenerate shit in the human world and a very public overlord, Valentino, has a porn industry where it's very sleazy (it's unknown if people in the public know he also kills hookers and abuses his agents).

Like it's so clear they're only presented as good guys when the main characters are around which could be fine but Viv wants the audience to also see them as good people.

I've heard Asmodeus threatens his "minions" or something, in a much worse scale compared to Valentino. Fitting, since he's a leader of a ring of hell and the like.
So... he should be rotten, as he's a demon. Why give redeeming qualities like "CONSENT"? At best "Work and you'll survive, follow the rules and same shit". Maybe show that Satan is much worse, because he's abused by the latter, disciplinarily (Flaying? Denailing? Teeth Removal?), which turns him on, but that brings scars too. So we can relate on a surface level.

In what fucking universe is Hannibal Lecter & Dexter Morgan (arguably) are more complex villains than a fucking demon?

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Yeah though I'd say Fizz's not as bad only because it's just vanilla standard top/bottom yaoi, it is very cookie cutter shit.

I mean, there was at the end of OOPs where once Fizz and Ozzie go home, Ozzie says something along the line that Fizz was never leaving the house alone ever again without Ozzie. And then Fizz looks down.

You think this would be brought up later, but this show is never good at continuity until it's relevant to the plot. Remember at the end of Mastermind, where Blitzø is hailed as a hero for imp-kind but then in the next episode it's never brought up?

I know that the Sam Haft already admitted that they write a lot of songs before writing the actual episodes, but I'm starting to think that this is the case for actual scenes. Like Viv has a really big scene planned out and then episodes are written around that specific scene.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

It's not like an exploitative sex industry is unknown given Verosika and her crew are famous succubi who've been to his club and were doing degenerate shit in the human world

On top of that Verosika and co rape Moxxie in her introduction episode.

Speaking of her, I fully expect Viv to retcon the Succubi/Incubi to just seduce their victims the old fashioned way instead of how it was portrayed in the beach episode as blatantly a form of mind control. This is because she is both safe edgy and we're now supposed to like Verosika and Ozzie.

 

[Gondolindrim]

I told someone on twitter that hell is a place for bad people so they called me a christofash and blocked me. Apparently actually knowing Bible stuff makes you a fascist now.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

On top of that Verosika and co rape Moxxie in her introduction episode.

Speaking of her, I fully expect Viv to retcon the Succubi/Incubi to just seduce their victims the old fashioned way instead of how it was portrayed in the beach episode as blatantly a form of mind control. This is because she is both safe edgy and we're now supposed to like Verosika and Ozzie.

Yeah like god forbid we have bad people in-universe like Stolas and Blitzo, only good people like them while all the evil people are mean to imps and super evil.

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Not to mention this sappy love-dovey relationship involves embodyment of Lust who's also against rape, so at the end of the day is just really kinky. It's like how Beelzebub wants people to party and drink but if someone is drinking to be self-destructive she suddenly preaches abstinence even if her episode was technically from the first season.

Out of character downgrades from S1 to S2, Ozzie doesn't get talked about enough.

Honestly I can understand not wanting to include shit like rape for a YouTube series but I do feel like they should’ve had someone point out that Ozzie sells stuff to rapist (something along the lines of: “Well that’s super funny knowing you who’s mainly buying your products”)

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

when an actual teenager calls you out like this (again, assuming this isn't a troll), you know you screwed up. Kicker is that most of the comments are agreeing with her.

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.....I honestly don't know how to feel about this.

 

[KissMyTaint]

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when an actual teenager calls you out like this (again, assuming this isn't a troll), you know you screwed up. Kicker is that most of the comments are agreeing with her.
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.....I honestly don't know how to feel about this.

Are they starting to learn?