hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

[Anonitolia]

What family do you have that talks about this literal who? He's apparently pretty big, but this is the first time I've heard of him. All Tateniggers and wannabes should be gassed and hung ong.

funnily enough, my mother

I don't know how, but she somehow got into stuff vaguely adjacent to the manosphere and she keeps talking about how WhatifAltHist, this guy, and redpill podcasts are all very insightful channels that I should check out. I don't know why, I don't know how. It's not like she's looking for dating advice; she's been happily married for decades and doesn't get out enough to cheat, but she keeps bringing all this shit up like it's worth learning from.

It's a little concerning, every new channel she gets into either has a thread on here or gets one soon after. I know she didn't get this from anyone else, either. I hope she leaves it behind eventually, because she's pretty stubborn about following it. (Kept listening to Rudyard even after the schizo shit. Couldn't give me a reason as to why when I asked.)

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

>claims porn is a "universal evil"
>indulges in promiscuity

seems legit

Well at least one is you cooming to other guys sticking it in women that you want while the other is you sticking it in yourself.

One is clearly less insidious.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

But he similarly claims to have slept with... "over 120 ?!PEOPLE?!"

He has to be going to orgies to get that number. Holy fuck. This man is addicted to sex. I doubt he cares what hole he sticks his pecker into.

The words "coomer" and "gooner" are overused nowadays, but...

@PaperRoads is doing a great job filling out the OP.

Still doing some research.

In this clip from Dec 30th, 2023, hoe_math describes his "slow phase" of his sexual debut between the ages of 15-23 where he "only" slept with 24 women.

Only 2 were "hot", most were low quality and he has bad memories about his formative years.

Then between the ages of 23 and 24, he committed to the gym and bulked up.

He subsequently increased his body count by another 36 women the next calendar year.

Addendum: Later in the stream (not clipped), he says most of his hookups came from apps.

"Bumble was working for me until I turned 37" (ie. 2017 - two years ago at the time)

 

[CoolFool]

I think I figured out why this guy annoys me (Besides the obvious), he reminds me Aella. Both pretend to be experts in understanding what men and women want, yet both are childless losers that can't keep anyone around. They can both get sex, but not the commitment and children they both claim to want.

Why anyone takes either of them seriously is beyond me. Looking forward to seeing this thread grow.

 

[LowlyPheasent]

If he really thinks everything in relationships is mathematical and/or transactional why doesn't he just get a mail-order bride or hire prostitutes? It seems like the logical ends when reducing love and affection to simply those things in line with his method of thought.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

He doesn't even try to commit. Ran through TWENTY women and none of them were "good" apparently. In this situation, the only common factor is Hoe_math, who clearly cant commit to save his fucking life.

wait what? i thought he had 20 gfs, not just a 20 woman body count. thats fucking low for a dude his age. like outside of the married, deformed, or retarded you could easily have half that number just by the age of 30.

But he similarly claims to have slept with... "over 120 ?!PEOPLE?!"

that's not a mistake someone his age group makes. its like "partner", zoomers have plausible deniability, he's just a fag.

He has to be going to orgies to get that number. Holy fuck. This man is addicted to sex. I doubt he cares what hole he sticks his pecker into.

not really mormon boy. he lived at the height of the empire. pre-tinder hoes had to swipe left or right by going out to the club, chances are he could get laid at least once a month just by going to the club every weekend.

during college between ages 23-25.

that's an odd range, retard must have been held back

It's not like she's looking for dating advice

you're either a woman and she's trying to tell you to get her some grandkids already or you're an autist she thinks needs an extra push. edit: for posterity this user did confirm to being both

In this clip from Dec 30th, 2023, hoe_math describes his "slow phase" of his sexual debut between the ages of 15-23 where he "only" slept with 24 women.

the 2000s really were the peak of US masculine energy, i wouldn't be surprised if he fucked that much.

He subsequently increased his body count by another 36 women the next calendar year.

that makes sense too, the late 2000s weren't really when the whole "gym bro/more plates more dates" bullshit went mainstream, but okcupid/eharmony just came out so a guy who cared about his appearance cleaned the fuck up when the rest of his competiton looked like Ethan Ralph

he says most of his hookups came from apps.

makes sense, he clearly couldn't charm women with his personality

 

[Double Taps]

Another example of a guy that gets in shape, earns more money, and tries reading about how to manipulate people, but manages to still end out being an unlikable faggot.

It's a little concerning, every new channel she gets into either has a thread on here or gets one soon after.

It's understandable for how she might have picked up on HM. There were female content creators that were hovering his content and thought it was "funny and accurate", so it probably spread within some female circles that way. Either that or she's a lolcow seer.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Snip

All you've said is he's a whore. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Hoi Polloi]

funnily enough, my mother

I don't know how, but she somehow got into stuff vaguely adjacent to the manosphere and she keeps talking about how WhatifAltHist, this guy, and redpill podcasts are all very insightful channels that I should check out. I don't know why, I don't know how. It's not like she's looking for dating advice; she's been happily married for decades and doesn't get out enough to cheat, but she keeps bringing all this shit up like it's worth learning from.

It's a little concerning, every new channel she gets into either has a thread on here or gets one soon after. I know she didn't get this from anyone else, either. I hope she leaves it behind eventually, because she's pretty stubborn about following it. (Kept listening to Rudyard even after the schizo shit. Couldn't give me a reason as to why when I asked.)

Someone's mother getting pilled by manosphere stuff is definitely a new one.

If you're a woman, your mother is clearly trying to insinuate you're either too much or not enough of a whore, if you're a man she's sincerely suggesting you take note of this stuff.

Good lord, "My mother was redpilled by hoe_logic".

 

[74164978231]

He has an interesting take on men cheating on their significant other with an "uglier" woman.

He got mad when people called him out for it and responded with this message

After seeing this I can say for certain he's just a faggot grifter. Those statements make it clear he's just a degenerate fuckboy that only cares about sleeping with as many women as possible.

His problem is he's aged out and with no actual career or wealth hes very unattractive to women. So he's jaded that he no longer be the fuckboy he used to enjoy being.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

that's an odd range, retard must have been held back

"I have two degrees in Psychology"



"I have a graduate degree in [sic] developmental psych"

The supposition that the ages of 23-25 were still "college years" for him was perhaps an overestimation on my part.
But he did two degrees, one being grad school.

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To avoid doubleposting, to bring things back to the present:



hoe_math's upcoming collabs include Fresh&Fit



He's also collabing with some guy named Rich Cooper, who apparently got rich in the debt consolidation business in Canada and looks like Leaf brand Dan Bilzerian

 

[Brown People are Gross]

"Top 20 women I've dated". And he said he was unpopular until well after college. That would give each relationship a window of about a month for each hambeast girlfriend to eat herself to death.

 

[AMHOLIO]

"Top 20 women I've dated". And he said he was unpopular until well after college. That would give each relationship a window of about a month for each hambeast girlfriend to eat herself to death.

Women like Chantal who can keep going on and on the fat train are coveted by Dear Feeder for a reason.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

- he's slept with over 120.....PEOPLE???

Is this a reformed bisexual whore giving advice to virgin men using kindergarten tier drawings?

Never mind, I was wrong and Hoe really is a cow. Great OP even if it is WIP.

 

[Oliver Onions]

It's interesting that he hates the Cult of Covid yet acts exactly like them in terms of claiming lockdown destroyed his mentals and he still hasn't recovered (skill issue btw).

Please post in Community Happenings if he ever does a face reveal, I am dying to know what this gigachad actually looks like.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Please post in Community Happenings if he ever does a face reveal, I am dying to know what this gigachad actually looks like.

My guess: a thumb.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

It's interesting that he hates the Cult of Covid yet acts exactly like them in terms of claiming lockdown destroyed his mentals and he still hasn't recovered (skill issue btw).

Most fans and normies only consume his colorful and cheerful drawings in his shortform YT and Tiktok content.

He's a lot more whiny and brooding though on his Twitter and his livestreams.

Credit to @my penis is on fire for the screenshots (some of them are from the OP)




He blames DEI for his lack of career success for the first 39 years of his life.




He denies having Bipolar Disorder but may have had undiagnosed hypomanic episodes in his teens




He tends to be quite histrionic. Claims to have been assaulted numerous times on the street during COVID (assumed but unconfirmed to have been living alone in a studio apartment in NYC for 2 years unemployed)

c/o of complex PTSD symptoms from isolation, acute stress reactions, chronic insomnia

For a guy marketing stoicism as the solution to the dating crisis for men and the impending civilizational collapse, he can be awfully whiny with a persecution complex.

I don't have a good clip or screenshot, but there's also a constant theme of being overworked, fatigued and feeling unwell on Twitter and his livestreams for the past two years despite becoming wealthy overnight and being a FT YouTuber with very inconsistent output.

 

[Anonitolia]

you're either a woman and she's trying to tell you to get her some grandkids already

If you're a woman, your mother is clearly trying to insinuate you're either too much or not enough of a whore

I dunno man, I don't think people buy Dennis Prager torahs to try and get their daughters to pick up dudes.

Either that or she's a lolcow seer.

I genuinely think it might be this. I just searched up some more of the people/channels she follows and holy shit, I think she watches more lolcows than not.

Spoiler: a compilation

dennis the menace
mr. "why does it matter who killed JFK"
alternative medicine man
schizolord
fuckboy at 40
self-described neckbeard
I have no funny title his voice is insufferable
drunk scot with creepy eyes

the only other channels I know she watches are some "whatever podcast" thing (for entertainment, according to her, because all the guests are so stupid it's "funny") and two unrelated things to do with religion, so I am further baffled at how she managed to get into this general sphere of manosphere guys

Good lord, "My mother was redpilled by hoe_logic".

Thank god it was the other way around, but it's not comforting to know that she sought out retards like this to affirm her views. Especially when she always taught me to take the opposition into account and hear out every side in a debate. :/

 

[Oliver Onions]

Most fans and normies only consume his colorful and cheerful drawings in his shortform YT and Tiktok content.

He's a lot more whiny and brooding though on his Twitter and his livestreams.

I wonder how many other ecelebs live this double life. I'm guessing all of them.

there's also a constant theme of being overworked, fatigued and feeling unwell

Has he ever actually stated what his profession is, or is content creation his whole bag?

I don't remember seeing any real jobs listed in the OP, only that he alluded to whatever vocation he majored in ultimately being useless, but that doesn't really narrow it down since 90% of higher education is for-profit bullshit with no practical application.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Has he ever actually stated what his profession is, or is content creation his whole bag?

I don't remember seeing any real jobs listed in the OP, only that he alluded to whatever vocation he majored in ultimately being useless, but that doesn't really narrow it down since 90% of higher education is for-profit bullshit with no practical application.

There's some circumstantial evidence that he grew up in Southern California to left-leaning parents.



Don't know of the topography of SoCal, but he's obsessed with mountains, nature, hiking and mountainbiking.

In this Nov 2nd, 2023 clip with Macken Murphy at 2:15, hoe_math admits to having left-leaning parents (and being White).

In this clip HM gives a vague outline of his life timeline.

- Not successful in life with career, money or women until well after college
- not mentioned in clip, but spent 20s working poor, doing gig work, mooching off women
- Finally had a purpose in life wrt occupation in his mid 30s (presumably in NYC but unconfirmed)
- career was "destroyed by COVID"
- not mentioned here, but he subsequently rotted in a studio apartment for 2 years during COVID
- "moved across the country" to a basement apartment "20 mins from where I grew up" (presumably to Southern California based on a screenshot earlier in the thread complaining about rent. I've also seen conjecture online that he moved into his mom's rental property, but unconfirmed)

"If I didn't get popular with hoe_math, I'd be working at Chili's or something"

"COVID destroyed my life. I moved across the country to a basement apartment 20 mins from where I grew up."
- Presumably leaving NYC and his lost COVID job/studio apartment to move cross-country to live closer to his parents in SoCal
"Insane how competitive the housing market is in SoCal - I was paying 1100 a month in the middle of nowhere"

He refuses to name his alma mater on his streams.

He has two Psychology degrees, including a Graduate degree in Developmental Psychology

From the OP

I spent 4 years in college, 6 years living in my hometown, then 10 years in big blue cities

For 12 years after college I never had more than $5000 at a time

Presumably his working poor gig days stretch from completing his Graduate Psych degree to finally securing his pre-COVID NYC dream job that was eventually ruined, the nature of the job remains unknown.

In this Dec 30th, 2023 clip, he claims he honed his lifecoaching prowess by working thousands upon thousands of Uber rides as the driver with the empathetic ear and the heart of gold






He couldn't find steady employment for decades because he was a white male

"I'm not very hireable. I haven't had a lot of jobs. Most YouTubers haven't"

He is really resentful the first successful job he ever had (in NYC?) was killed by COVID. He spent 2 years in his studio apartment pouting about it.

It seems as though that in fall 2023 when he first achieved some Tiktok success, he started an online lifecoaching service. He sometimes talks about his client's anonymous predicaments in his content.

It seems like his lifecoaching practise didn't last long and shutdown around the end of Dec '23 when his YT really took off.

TL; DR/DW

- Doesn't seem like he ever secured work in his Psychology field, he is resentful of DEI
- He openly admits to being working poor with gig work from his early 20s to age 39. He specifically refers to driving for Uber a lot
- He admits to relying on financial assistance from the plethora of fly-by-night women he dated short-term over the years
- He finally secured a real-life job in a blue city (likely NYC) around 2019, but it was killed by COVID. He pouted for 2 years in his studio apartment afterwards
- He eventually moved back home to presumably Southern California, near his parents, unemployed
- He finally went viral on TikTok in the second half of 2023, finally giving him a source of income
- Other than a brief sojourn as a personal online lifecoach that was quickly abandoned when his YT later took off, he has no other regular employment presently
- As per the OP, he does a few paid AI self-assessment/self-improvement apps that he made with a few Leafs techbros as a sidehustle