US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

General Trump Banner.png

Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Why? They were infamously corrupt
American private unions are just as corrupt. At least with a national union you can have the government officially moderate disputes between capital owners and labor. The hope is to have compromises that make both parties upset. If labor is too happy then the economy isn't competitive. The country will lag behind others. If things get really bad in this direction, people don't have any incentive to work. They'd sleep at their work stations, or not show up at all. If capital is too happy families can't make enough, and you face birthrate collapse.

You also don't have to worry about foreign influence as much.
 
Last edited:
American private unions are just as corrupt. At least with a national union you can have the government officially moderate disputes between capital owners and labor. The hope is to have compromises that make both parties upset. If labor is too happy then the economy isn't competitive. The country will lag behind others. If capital is too happy families can't make enough, and you face birthrate collapse.

You also don't have to worry about foreign influence as much.
I see Mussolini's thoughts are being kept alive.
 
American private unions are just as corrupt. At least with a national union you can have the government officially moderate disputes between capital owners and labor. The hope is to have compromises that make both parties upset. If labor is too happy then the economy isn't competitive. The country will lag behind others. If things get really bad in this direction, people don't have any incentive to work. They'd sleep at their work stations, or not show up at all. If capital is too happy families can't make enough, and you face birthrate collapse.

You also don't have to worry about foreign influence as much.
I strongly suggest doing more research on this since they held the country back so much. Imagine if the Teamsters were able to shut down a country
 
this is the single busiest thread on the site, but the chat we had for politisperging was never used. why is that?
I got bullied in sneed chat for having too many posts for such a new account. It's because I didn't find sneed chat until later, but one of the first things I did find was the beginning of USPG2. Sometimes when someone posts a stream of something like a press conference the thread would basically turn into a live chat, perhaps a little bit slower and slightly higher-content messages. When events slowed down, you'd get little threads of people talking about stuff like Byzantine history, or recent Ukrainian history; the Ukraine stuff got swept, the Byzantine stuff didn't.

So the thread is acting like a slow-moving, politics-themed genchat with a few specific topic bans. Which is very comfy and a nice experience while you're keeping up with it, probably better than an actual chat. It's just a shame that it makes the thread completely fucking unusable in retrospect. Sometime during the second week of his presidency, Trump said he would be talking about the 2020 election the following Monday, specifically about Georgia. He didn't follow up on this, and I wanted to find the original statement, probably on Truth. Google was absolutely no help. I know that it was posted in this thread because that's where I saw it, it's probably even archived, but I'd have to comb through dozens of pages to find it, and I didn't feel like putting in the work.

I don't know that this thread is wrong or needs fixing; it's not perfect, but it's a special kind of thing created from a unique confluence of events and technology that wasn't quite intended for the usage. Case in point, I've seen people talking about optimizing your post number mod 20 to increase the odds people read your shit when there's too many pages to keep up with and they start skipping through. It was a unique experience the first few weeks, I've completely given up trying to keep up and just dip in randomly. More advanced thread search tools might help make the thousands of pages any sort of useful archive. I also wonder whether we're even going to make it to midterms before the thread starts bugging out and needs to be split for technical reasons.

Shouts out to spiritofamermaid who reads absolutely every post; when you see this one, do me a favor and give me a big tasty puzzle piece.
 
Any recommended reading material? English plz. Also Israel has the highest birthrate in OECD at 2.9 births per woman.


That's because of haredim who don't work much and have 8 kids per family. The secular birthright is very high too but they're being outnumbered. Arab Israeli fertility is going down due to Arab women being better educated than before.
 



That's because of haredim who don't work much and have 8 kids per family. The secular birthright is very high too but they're being outnumbered. Arab Israeli fertility is going down due to Arab women being better educated than before.
So what you're saying is to solve the the global fertility crisis we just need women to go back to being illiterate? Sounds like a good solution, outside of Frankenstein they never wrote much worth a shit anyways.
 
I know that it was posted in this thread because that's where I saw it, it's probably even archived, but I'd have to comb through dozens of pages to find it, and I didn't feel like putting in the work.
The search function allows you to search specific threads which is very nice. Most forums only let you search specific sub-forums or the entire website.
 
That's because of haredim who don't work much and have 8 kids per family. The secular birthright is very high too but they're being outnumbered.
Every group is gonna have their breeders, even if they don't directly contribute. Eventually some of those Haredi are gonna leave and do more than Torah all day. Even taking out the Haredi, Religious Jews have a birth rate of 4 per woman. That's 1 more on average child than American Mormons. The second biggest American Breeders (after the Amish). Also comparing Secular Jews to the Average American with a birthrate of 1.6(In 2024, can't find the Israeli post 2020) they're still higher by 0.4 children.
israelBirthratesPerfaction.png
Graph found here.
 
So what you're saying is to solve the the global fertility crisis we just need women to go back to being illiterate? Sounds like a good solution, outside of Frankenstein they never wrote much worth a shit anyways.
the women are literate and they are the ones who work
Every group is gonna have their breeders, even if they don't directly contribute. Eventually some of those Haredi are gonna leave and do more than Torah all day. Even taking out the Haredi, Religious Jews have a birth rate of 4 per woman. That's 1 more on average child than American Mormons. The second biggest American Breeders (after the Amish). Also comparing Secular Jews to the Average American with a birthrate of 1.6(In 2024, can't find the Israeli post 2020) they're still higher by 0.4 children.
View attachment 7156803
Graph found here.
i guess its because the country is fairly oriented towards having kids and in general israel is a pretty happy country
 
Boomers still believe in the infallibility and credibility of institutions like media, academia, legal system. Basically if the television hates Trump that must mean he's bad.

Ran into a bit of this, this afternoon. Friend of mine still believes very blatantly obvious bad information about Elon and what DOGE in general is doing. I mean, I'm still friends with them, but I still think they're being fucking retarded. He's very obviously been infected with the "ORANGE MAN BAD" TDS. Honestly, I'm kind of over people close to me being retarded over politics, because once you realize it's all just opinions and us (as the peasant class) can't really affect anything on a really large level it's just ..I dunno. Seems kind of worthless to flip out at someone over.
 
So the thread is acting like a slow-moving, politics-themed genchat with a few specific topic bans. Which is very comfy and a nice experience while you're keeping up with it, probably better than an actual chat. It's just a shame that it makes the thread completely fucking unusable in retrospect. Sometime during the second week of his presidency, Trump said he would be talking about the 2020 election the following Monday, specifically about Georgia. He didn't follow up on this, and I wanted to find the original statement, probably on Truth. Google was absolutely no help. I know that it was posted in this thread because that's where I saw it, it's probably even archived, but I'd have to comb through dozens of pages to find it, and I didn't feel like putting in the work.
I don't mind this tbh unless it's a bunch of sperging out about the dating scene like this thread likes to do. I really wish there was in depth US politics threads like this one for all recent Presidents, Obama especially. It's a fantastic way to keep a record of all the US happening in a nice and coherent space. I love having a thread that followed Joe Biden's Presidency from day 1 to day 1,463, Literally anything you need to know about those 4 years is there in order. It's priceless really.
 
Last edited:
The search function allows you to search specific threads which is very nice. Most forums only let you search specific sub-forums or the entire website.
It is nice and I did try it, but on-site searches often seem to either return zero posts or most of a thread. In a thread like this, you'd need to be able to do stuff like restrict date ranges, and maybe I'm just a retard but it seemed like you can't combine those options to do that on a thread search.
 
the women are literate and they are the ones who work

i guess its because the country is fairly oriented towards having kids and in general israel is a pretty happy country
Do you think we will see the Haredi be forced to be conscripted? I've always found it fascinating that there is a whole caste of people that just have different rules/laws like that.
 
Back