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Every group is gonna have their breeders, even if they don't directly contribute. Eventually some of those Haredi are gonna leave and do more than Torah all day. Even taking out the Haredi, Religious Jews have a birth rate of 4 per woman. That's 1 more on average child than American Mormons. The second biggest American Breeders (after the Amish). Also comparing Secular Jews to the Average American with a birthrate of 1.6(In 2024, can't find the Israeli post 2020) they're still higher by 0.4 children.
your graph shows the birthrates of Religious Jews declining, and this was a chart from 3 years ago, before October 7th happened and all of the shenanigans since. Also knowing Israel it wouldn't surprise me if they're lying about their birthrates to try and act like the country isn't suffering in population since it is now Majority Muslim again. Add in the fact that their neighbors have much higher birthrates than them, yeah I think they're screwed.
 
your graph shows the birthrates of Religious Jews declining
The light blue is religious Jews. They've stuck pretty close to 4 for decades.
Also knowing Israel it wouldn't surprise me if they're lying about their birthrates to try and act like the country isn't suffering in population
I don't know and neither do you. The economist article where I got the graph says they see toy stores everywhere. While in the America they're closing. That's something very hard to fake, if they do have a thriving "toy" market (not funko pops).
since it is now Majority Muslim again.
Maybe their Muslim population was really big, and they were breeding really fast to boot.
Add in the fact that their neighbors have much higher birthrates than them, yeah I think they're screwed.
Maybe. You can't deny they've got a bunch of bombs and they aren't afraid to use them.
 
Also knowing Israel it wouldn't surprise me if they're lying about their birthrates to try and act like the country isn't suffering in population since it is now Majority Muslim again.
Since when is it majority Muslim? 20 percent of the population are arabs and there's currently a baby boom
 
I mean...what can I expect from the guy who unironically defends people like Daniel larson and Chris chan, even when they're shown doing awful shit with no inputs from trolls?
Dude, can you atleast give a tl;dw because I am not going to listen to an obese bald reddit soybeard looking faggot. Low quality post, consider working out and fucking a girl.
 
Why is Trump so obsessed with Tarrifs. Pretty much all his rich donors hate them.

To steel man the Trumpian position, He will put tarrifs on foreign goods, then domestic competitors to those goods will start making these things and paying Americans to do so. In turn the American consumer base will have more money to buy things and there will more robust internal competition and then prices will lower.

The issue is though, this isn't the 1800s when the foreign goods were tables,tea pots or wagon wheels that any old idiot can make in his garage modern consumer goods require tons of specific manufacturing , speculation and economies of scale.

Also it avoids the main issue. The main issue with cost of living in America isn't the price of consumer goods that is something America has or ate lest had better then almost any other country. The main cost of living issue is housing prices. The average American spends half their income on rent or their mortgage if you could bring that down it would help so much more and less money goes to these sort of bare necessity purchases and more goes to well consumer goods. The issue with that is one his corporate buddies don't want it but even besides that the boomers don't want it. They depend on the cost of housing staying high so they can take out HELOCS forever

America's main economic power was that the US dollar was a valuable currency so foreign companies wanted to sell to the us consumer to get more of dollars. With Tarrifs America will lose that and it's soft power.

The real reason he likes Tarrifs is 2 fold. One he thinks foreign countries are literally stealing from America which we talked about and they are a power he can implement without any sort of approval. I have said before that Trump fetishizes power by itself and less so what he can do with it.

It is better to be ruled by someone who is evil but good at like Putin or Xi then a retard like Trump or Nicholas Maduro
 
the women are literate and they are the ones who work

i guess its because the country is fairly oriented towards having kids and in general israel is a pretty happy country

Why is Trump so obsessed with Tarrifs. Pretty much all his rich donors hate them.

To steel man the Trumpian position, He will put tarrifs on foreign goods, then domestic competitors to those goods will start making these things and paying Americans to do so. In turn the American consumer base will have more money to buy things and there will more robust internal competition and then prices will lower.

The issue is though, this isn't the 1800s when the foreign goods were tables,tea pots or wagon wheels that any old idiot can make in his garage modern consumer goods require tons of specific manufacturing , speculation and economies of scale.

Also it avoids the main issue. The main issue with cost of living in America isn't the price of consumer goods that is something America has or ate lest had better then almost any other country. The main cost of living issue is housing prices. The average American spends half their income on rent or their mortgage if you could bring that down it would help so much more and less money goes to these sort of bare necessity purchases and more goes to well consumer goods. The issue with that is one his corporate buddies don't want it but even besides that the boomers don't want it. They depend on the cost of housing staying high so they can take out HELOCS forever

America's main economic power was that the US dollar was a valuable currency so foreign companies wanted to sell to the us consumer to get more of dollars. With Tarrifs America will lose that and it's soft power.

The real reason he likes Tarrifs is 2 fold. One he thinks foreign countries are literally stealing from America which we talked about and they are a power he can implement without any sort of approval. I have said before that Trump fetishizes power by itself and less so what he can do with it.

It is better to be ruled by someone who is evil but good at like Putin or Xi then a retard like Trump or Nicholas Maduro
It's pretty easy to explain. The only reason China currently works is because their garbage is cheap, which means cheap labor or materials. There is a problem that exists in emerging industrial economies that thrive due to low labor costs. Eventually the influx of capital causes labor to wonder why they work for peanuts while the bosses make a shitton.

This happened in the 1920/30s in America and literal illiterate italians and irishmen started causing a fuss. How do you think it's gonna go with the entire population raised on Mao? Poor countries trying to industrialize have faced this issue again and again, because a rising standard of living means a rising labor cost, which means your poor neighbor is now more attractive for manufacturing. And if you can no longer sell your product at an insane markup due to low export prices you're fucked. The only issue is China regularly manipulates their currency to an insane degree which needs to be fixed via a few threats on turning off all food exports to China until about 10% of their population starve or get stomped to death trying to rush for a sack of soybeans.
 
Why is Trump so obsessed with Tarrifs. Pretty much all his rich donors hate them.
All the people that I hate politically, that hate me politically, and actively work against American interests hate tariffs. Tariffs, therefore, are directionally correct and the more non-Americans and anti-Americans cry like faggots about them, the more I assume they're the correct action. If tariffs were actually bad for America, why would the small dicked Han Shinajin and the turbo faggot Euros be crying so damned hard about them? Out of the deepness of their concern for the American people, no doubt, so selfless.

America's main economic power was that the US dollar was a valuable currency so foreign companies wanted to sell to the us consumer to get more of dollars. With Tarrifs America will lose that and it's soft power.
And that's a problem, America's main economic power should be leveraging our vast natural resources into actually producing things, not moving money and service. Tariffs encourage this, which is why the niggerfaggots of the world want America to stop talking about them. Every Chinaman, every Euro, every inferior brownoid that screeches about tariffs wants America to remain an economic zone they can plunder, like a richer version of Canada.
 
All the people that I hate politically, that hate me politically, and actively work against American interests
They hate Child porn to, Chin,Israel,Iran everyone who works against American interest ban childporn and I think in Iran it's punishable by death do you support child porn now to ?

And that's a problem, America's main economic power should be leveraging our vast natural resources into actually producing things, not moving money and service. Tariffs encourage this, which is why the niggerfaggots of the world want America to stop talking about them. Every Chinaman, every Euro, every inferior brownoid that screeches about tariffs wants America to remain an economic zone they can plunder, like a richer version of Canada.
I agree with you I really do but America can't do that because our resources are not nationalized and nationalizing them would require doling out so much in compensation if it's even legally possible. I am not saying we should just copy the Chinese model we need to play to our strengths and our natural resources could be one such strength. There is no way for the natural resources to be a source of power for the state and a consistent profit earner for corporations.
 
They hate Child porn to, Chin,Israel,Iran everyone who works against American interest ban childporn and I think in Iran it's punishable by death do you support child porn now to ?
And I'm sure those totally trad based countries enforce their laws in a draconian fashion just like the Russian laws against CSAM. Oh what's this? One of the largest providers of CSAM in the world? This can't be! They have a law against it!
 
They hate Child porn to, Chin,Israel,Iran everyone who works against American interest ban childporn and I think in Iran it's punishable by death do you support child porn now to ?
I know this is actually a logical fallacy, I just can't be bothered to look up which one. Seethe harder, whatever flavor of inferior brownoid or small-souled bugman you are, people crying about American tariffs are the same kind of people who try to manipulate people who are actively attempting to improve themselves into self-sabotage. Don't pretend you have America's best interests in mind.
 
The issue is though, this isn't the 1800s when the foreign goods were tables,tea pots or wagon wheels that any old idiot can make in his garage modern consumer goods require tons of specific manufacturing , speculation and economies of scale.
It took over 30 years for us to get here. It will take time to fix. That's why you have to have tariffs as well as direct business grants from the government. With direct stipulations that they have to hire X number of Americans. They have to buy American made parts. etc. Those two thinks work together will help build factories. You also have to think about what would happen if global shipping did get disrupted again? We're still bleeding from the last time.
The main cost of living issue is housing prices.
you need a lot of manufactured goods to make that house.
The average American spends half their income on rent or their mortgage
If we had more manufacturing jobs, on average their incomes would be higher because their labor was more desirable. Then they wouldn't have to spend as much of their income on rent. This isn't the only factor here, but it is a factor. It would also help if our monetary system wasn't based on giving money to banks to buy assets to have a line go up.
The issue with that is one his corporate buddies don't want it but even besides that the boomers don't want it. They depend on the cost of housing staying high so they can take out HELOCS forever
Yes, but as JD Vance pointed out, our country has to have manufacturing for out military. America went from one of the biggest car manufacturers to plane manufacturers during WWII. So businesses and boomers can take the loss. It is an existential threat, even more than White incels.
America's main economic power was that the US dollar was a valuable currency so foreign companies wanted to sell to the us consumer to get more of dollars.
People use the US dollar because we won both WWII and the cold war. That was all military/CIA.
With Tarrifs America will lose that and it's soft power.
Manufacturing is a kind of soft power. So we've lost our manufacturing soft power, which affects our military power. We've lost our media soft power, because of nepotism. We've lost our education power, because of naval-gazing. Our intel agencies are so weak, they can't even kill a US president anymore. So we need hard power, and the soft power that it brings.
One he thinks foreign countries are literally stealing from America
What he means is money that could be going to working class families in America, is going to working class people in other countries. We print money, buy things from other countries. Which is pretty cool, but we've used it too much. It's a poison pill that's made us weak.
 
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It took over 30 years for us to get here. It will take time to fix. That's why I think you have to have tariffs as well as direct business grants from the government. With direct stipulations that they have to hire X number of Americans. They have to buy American made parts. etc. Those two thinks work together will help build factories. You also have to think about what would happen if global shipping did get disrupted again? We're still bleeding from the last time.
I am not a free market libertarian that is anti tarrif all the time. Id o think they have their place in the market but they have to be done well. I praise the Chinese model all the time they make heavy use of tarrifs. Trump just tariffing all gods from the entire EU makes no sense and is like using a nuke to get of an anti hill.
you need a lot of manufactured goods to make that house.
Not wrong but most of the goods used to make housing are low value added. Turning a lib into planks isn't some high level thing.
If we had more manufacturing jobs, on average their incomes would be higher because their labor was more desirable. Then they wouldn't have to spend as much of their income on rent. This isn't the only factor here, but it is a factor. It would also help if our monetary system wasn't based on giving money to banks to buy assets to have a line go.
Your not wrong but that is just throwing more shit into an inefficient system. China realizes this and that is why in China consumer housing is pretty cheap and it's hard to be straight up homeless unless you live in an extremely rural area. With less consumer money going to rent it allows for more investment into consumer good especially things like tech,evs and so on that China is doing well in
Yes, but as JD Vance pointed out, our country has to have manufacturing for out military. America went from one of the biggest car manufacturers to plane manufacturers during WWII.
In WW2 America was the biggest everything manufacturer, producing more industrial output then the rest of the world combined that just isn't feasible anymore.

People use the US dollar because we won both WWII and the cold war. That was all military/CIA.
The Soviet union won both world war 1 and 2 why didn't everyone use the ruble ? Same with Great Britain why didn't they use pound sterling ?

Manufacturing is a kind of soft power. So we've lost our manufacturing soft power, which affects our military power. We've lost our media soft power, because of nepotism. We've lost our education power, because of naval-gazing. Our intel agencies are so weak, they can't even kill a US president anymore. So we need hard power, and the soft power that brings someone.
I don't disagree but we still have soft power n the way of the us dollar and the sanctions that can be levied using it. If the US dollar falls you will have no soft power the risk just isn't worth it. American manufacturing most of the world's stuff again won't happen what we should shoot for is strategic autonomy. American education soft power is pretty decent Xi Jing Ping's own daughter went to Harvard.

What he means is money that could be going to working class families in America, is going to working class people in other countries. We print money, buy things from other countries. Which is pretty cool, but we've used it too much. It's a poison pill that's made us weak.
The working class are hurt most by tariffs as a rich person can afford to buy the more expensive goods and has the capital to invest in the new industries if they come to be
 
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