Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity? - Most likely the answer will be = NO

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity?

Gentlemen, it's good to see you here bright and early as always.

Now, let's get down to business shall we, as I'm sure you are all aware as of the mid 20th century it has become a common occurrence to shame males for being virgins.

This causes men to lie about their experiences in life so that they aren't looked down on by their peers and socially ostracized.

The average virginity rate in males has risen to an all time high and so you have large numbers of men that feel like they have a dark secret to hide.

The solution would be to have a return to traditions (usually coming from faith) whereby virginity is held as sacred and should be held until one has a soulmate.

What information do you have to impart on this situation?


We should not follow Dionysus to the forest clearing

 

[We Are The Witches]

@We Are The Witches Lesbianism? If you live in a small town then while there are less people to date, you get the chance to become soul mates with someone in your social circle. Where as people in a highly populated area no longer get that experience, as the women they talk to will all be using dating apps.

Do you not see how fucked men are and for how long we have been fucked? There is no way that it goes over anybodies head anymore.

Do you know that women find most men unattractive. The opposite is true of men, we find a great number of women attractive. Religion and culture used to keep women in check. Now after many waves of feminism and sexual revolution women are free to do whatever they like, and what they like is to have sex with only the top men available, and they can find them easily thanks to technology.

They have random sex with Chad and so they think - why am I going to date anyone else, I'm going to marry Chad. There are only so many Chads to go around so most women end up alone.

Femcels do not exist. Single women are only single because they refuse to date non alpha males.

Incels exist because most of us men have been excluded from the dating market.

If you are a woman and a lesbian that would explain why you aren't being toxic about it but also do not understand the playing field.

I am not a woman, but I am quite happy with how I am, how I handle things in life & how I face challenges, and I'm still getting better at it.

As I said, you should love yourself a bit more, improve the aspects that seem lacking, and do things that make you happy. You are missing out by focusing so much in others, specially randos on the Internet, which are inconsequential to your life. Focus on yourself.

Of course there are femcels, as well as toxic women that won't ever be happy in their life. These femcels may be used as sexual objects by an equal loser such as themselves, if you envy that, you might have a problem that needs to be fixed with better perspective.

You also have been lead to believe that that is desirable, it's not. Their lives spin around one of the most mundane experiences in existence, they're dictated by it, incels, femcels, people who obsess over it or think about them every day, these are absolute weak losers.

You can find someone, just like the many normal men that have. And in the meantime, don't waste your youth.

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I feel like I've said everything I wanted, and given you proper advice to maybe have another perspective in life. There's nothing more here, it's up to you now.

 

[Haloperidol]

I know in reality they are all crazy bitches but I like the victorian era fashion mixed with darkness. Nobody else could get away with dressing like that, for some reason if you make it black and add in some occult and depression vibes it is quite erotic. It adds an element of danger. I donno, just like what I like.

Where are all these goth women in their 30s+? I can’t remember the last time I saw someone who wasn’t early 20s max dressed in alt clothing in public. I‘m definitely younger than you and the thought of going for someone for their style of dress is already foreign to me.

Wrong again child

You have been instructed, many hundreds of times, to stop blaming women for your problems. Enjoy virginity.

 

[Thé au lait]

Wrong again child. My 'mommy' does not come and cook me meals, I go to my parents place and have some nice home cooking, nothing wrong with doing that.

Ah that's right, your 'mummy' (terribly sorry to misnation her like that) cooks your dinners. My mistake.

Why goth women in particular? You talked a bit about why earlier but I still don't get it.

Because they were the porn category of the month a few years ago

 

[DankSmoker]

Where are all these goth women in their 30s+? I can’t remember the last time I saw someone who wasn’t early 20s max dressed in alt clothing in public. I‘m definitely younger than you and the thought of going for someone for their style of dress is already foreign to me.

They are all single mothers now.

 

[pollution jim]

I'm fine with being honest about being a virgin, I think it's better that the world know how white men are suffering.

Yeah, sex is there to push us to have kids after all and not go extinct.

you make us look weak and sad saying this, the way you act is so self demeaning it even creeps me out. Posting your poems and Nietzsche quotes won't help at all

You don't have to worry there, I'll certainly hold on to my virginity, I hope all western men that have been ejected from society use the power it gives them.

what do you mean by this?

 

[DankSmoker]

what do you mean by this?

I guess virginity is like the second amendment and you'll pry it from his cold dead buttcheeks!

 

[pollution jim]

I guess virginity is like the second amendment and you'll pry it from his cold dead buttcheeks!

I thought it meant his virginity is a superpower and he should use it to shoot up his IT office

 

[DankSmoker]

I thought it meant his virginity is a superpower and he should use it to shoot up his IT office

That's definitely a possibility as well, but I'm a glass half full kind of guy and just think he will die alone and unloved.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

When will you tell someone to Enjoy Prison?


Why are there so many ugly people having sex and being born though?



Have you tried trooning out? You could BECOME the goth GF then have sex with other trans goth GFs.

Enjoy prison child, your life is already over.

There are so many ugly people have sex and being born because they are all couples from before the 2010s.

Why are some you still under the impression that We are the witches isn't a weird manlet?

Because it's a female trait to be unaware of the world around them. I personally think women have worse memory and eyesight than men do.

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If you think too little or too much you may get worse at making predictions.

It looks deep but I have no idea what it means.

Where are all these goth women in their 30s+? I can’t remember the last time I saw someone who wasn’t early 20s max dressed in alt clothing in public. I‘m definitely younger than you and the thought of going for someone for their style of dress is already foreign to me.

You have been instructed, many hundreds of times, to stop blaming women for your problems. Enjoy virginity.

Your life is already over child. All of the goth women have become psycho bitches living on alimony payments and a cocktail of drugs their shrink prescribes them.

Ah that's right, your 'mummy' (terribly sorry to misnation her like that) cooks your dinners. My mistake.

Because they were the porn category of the month a few years ago

I don't have a girlfriend so where else am I going to get some proper food.

A porn category of the month? No, because in the 00s when I was young and impressionable it was all the rage, you had lead singers that looked like this -

And this is before unnatural hair colours became the lefty feminist warning sign.

you make us look weak and sad saying this, the way you act is so self demeaning it even creeps me out. Posting your poems and Nietzsche quotes won't help at all


what do you mean by this?

@We Are The Witches I am listening to your advice and I appreciate the patient calm manner you deliver what you have to say. Perhaps you are to be cherished because you have somehow been isolated from the horrors of the post-liberal democracy world.

The reason I thought you were a woman is because you are so naive.

You can't just be a regular guy and get a regular girl anymore, that hasn't been the case in at least 15 years. Women are all well aware that there is a chance they can get the top dawg and so they all play the lottery game trying to put a ring on his finger.

The saddest part of it all is that somehow most people are unaware that women have left most men to die alone. Our voices go unheard. Everything said about women and men are actually reversed, think about that the next time you ponder on the stereotypes of men and women.

Femcels don't exist, they are just women who are sad because out of the 500 women that swiped on Chad, they weren't the one that got more than a one night stand from him.

 

[DankSmoker]

A porn category of the month? No, because in the 00s when I was young and impressionable it was all the rage, you had lead singers that looked like this -

And this is before unnatural hair colours became the lefty feminist warning sign.

Regardless of current day feminist dogwhistles that's clearly a dyke, dude.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The saddest part of it all is that somehow most people are unaware that women have left most men to die alone. Our voices go unheard

Not all men get to pass on their genes, you ain't got a right to pussy communism.

Enjoy prison child, your life is already over.

Thank you!

There are so many ugly people have sex and being born because they are all couples from before the 2010s.

Ralph got laid in the 2010s and 2020s.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Regardless of current day feminist dogwhistles that's clearly a dyke, dude.

Not a bad looking dyke though, if I was an adult back then I could have fixed her.

Not all men get to pass on their genes, you ain't got a right to pussy communism.

Thank you!


Ralph got laid in the 2010s and 2020s.

I've paid enough taxes, when do I get my pussy coupons.

You forget what all seem to forget. You know who Ralph is because he has infamy. If a man gets infamy or plain famous he will get women no matter how ugly he is.

 

[DankSmoker]

Not a bad looking dyke though, if I was an adult back then I could have fixed her.

You cant even fix yourself, my man. Unless you don't think you're broken, in which case why make this thread?

 

[Spiny Rumples]

It looks deep but I have no idea what it means.

Eh it was vague and #deep, fortune cookie stuff.

In machine learning, a model is fit to data. This means the model gets a bunch of data and tries to make predictions.
The 'train' data is what the model has access to to learn from. The 'test' data is stuff it hasn't seen before, to learn how well it's predictions do.

In this case, the model makes a line between blue and orange spots. Left side is blue right side is orange. It bends the line to try and get more correct in the training data. Then that line is applied to the test data.

Underfitting = loose understanding
"optimal" = pretty good understanding
Overfitting = friggin' incredible understanding. It got 100% of the data correct in training. It knows every detail.


But when faced with a new situation, a model that learned too much from its data (overfitted) will see patterns that don't apply to the new data.
I was applying that to learning in general.
Think very little with available data => fuck up going forward
See some patterns in available data => do better going forward
Reflect and reminisce and never forget how things were => do better in some ways, but see patterns that aren't reflective of anything

There's some fortune cookie message for you. Think too much about something and the lessons you learn might not be applicable.

 

[AMHOLIO]

You forget what all seem to forget. You know who Ralph is because he has infamy. If a man gets infamy or plain famous he will get women no matter how ugly he is.

You better star working on it, then. Up and at 'em, boy.

 

[⚞⛇⚟]

Not a bad looking dyke though, if I was an adult back then I could have fixed her.

1. How would you have "fixed her"?
2. Why can't you do it again now?

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

You cant even fix yourself, my man. Unless you don't think you're broken, in which case why make this thread?

I'm broken and I'm unhinged, that is why I'm not trying to fix any women at this current time.

Eh it was vague and #deep, fortune cookie stuff.

In machine learning, a model is fit to data. This means the model gets a bunch of data and tries to make predictions.
The 'train' data is what the model has access to to learn from. The 'test' data is stuff it hasn't seen before, to learn how well it's predictions do.

In this case, the model makes a line between blue and orange spots. Left side is blue right side is orange. It bends the line to try and get more correct in the training data. Then that line is applied to the test data.

Underfitting = loose understanding
"optimal" = pretty good understanding
Overfitting = friggin' incredible understanding. It got 100% of the data correct in training. It knows every detail.

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But when faced with a new situation, a model that learned too much from its data (overfitted) will see patterns that don't apply to the new data.
I was applying that to learning in general.
Think very little with available data => fuck up going forward
See some patterns in available data => do better going forward
Reflect and reminisce and never forget how things were => do better in some ways, but see patterns that aren't reflective of anything

There's some fortune cookie message for you. Think too much about something and the lessons you learn might not be applicable.

Fuck the diagram all makes sense now. That is the problem is algorithims, they do what you tell them to do.

So you are saying that I'm applying my model so accurately that I'm not seeing the forest for the trees?

I'm not so sure about that though. I'm seeing the patterns of life.

Everyone knows single men, nobody knows single women. We all have that same experience in life. Even just on that alone it's obvious what is going on.

You better star working on it, then. Up and at 'em, boy.

Step 1: Extreme alcoholism

1. How would you have "fixed her"?
2. Why can't you do it again now?

I have no power to fix her now. My social standing is -200 as I'm on the bottom rung of the pyramid of globohomo as a straight white male.

I'd have fixed her by taking her to the beach and giving her one behind the life guards shack.


Half of us white males are virgins and none of you will admit it.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

Fuck the diagram all makes sense now. That is the problem is algorithims, they do what you tell them to do.

So you are saying that I'm applying my model so accurately that I'm not seeing the forest for the trees?

I'm not so sure about that though. I'm seeing the patterns of life.

Yeah, and that after a while spent learning from the same data you might reduce your ability to generalize about future data.
It happens to all machine learning models that I know about.

I suppose that if you are considering other people's opinions, that might be adding to your understanding too.

Still, I think you would benefit more from firsthand testing. Like idk wearing different outfits and asking people for a high-five could let you know more about if outfits matter. You could ask them for dates for clearer data but I'm guessing you wouldn't like that.

 

[⚞⛇⚟]

I'd have fixed her by taking her to the beach and giving her one behind the life guards shack.

Are you saying that you would rape her, or am I misunderstanding something?

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

gay


@We Are The Witches Have you ever tried dating women before? You seem like a nice person so I appreciate how you bring your ideas to the table but you are very naive.

It has been known for a long time now that due to certain (((agents of destruction))) causing the fall of the west that there is a massive rift between white men and women. Women have it all, men have nothing.

Look at this example of a woman and her experience on Tinder
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(apologies it's a little blurry, it's taken from a video)

The average man gets 0 right swipes, the average woman gets hundreds, and they all filter it down to about 10 chads, which of course the dates lead to sex on the first night because they are only going for the cream of the crop men.

Lol, having sex on the first date does not indicate a man is cream of the crop. In the diagram in particular, it merely indicates two people are down. She wanted sex; I'm sure she communicated that and that was something the men were interested in as well, pand so when it came to "date" time, it was the expectation on both sides that unless something really was off-putting, it would probably happen.

Why are they desperate? Because only the top 10% of men get sex and relationships.

Manifestly untrue.

And did you notice that she got ignored/not matched 100 (OK, 99) times that she swiped right? And then another 30 who matched didn't bother even to chat with her?

This was someone on tinder specifically for casual sex, which she got. But she got a less than 10% return, looking strictly at numbers and nothing qualitative. For casual sex. With men. Over 90% "rejection" rate.

Maybe she's an exceptionally unlikeable, unattractive person, and this ratio reflects "bottom 1% of women," but I don't think so.

Often it's said that women are more interested in you if you have a partner already as that means you are approved by other women.

I think you take generalizations or casual expressions/ observations far, far, far too literally. And I think that that is part of why you believe some of the things you do and why things start to seem to add up/ fit together in your mind and get synthesized into giant tumorous theories that are highly negative and fill you with doom.