Culture “Adolescence” Episode Three: The Incel Wake-Up Call Netflix Gave Women - Mothers of boys and lovers of men: take heed

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Netflix recently aired a British crime drama that moved me emotionally as a British mother to a pre-teen boy. It was created in response to the rise in knife crime in the United Kingdom, and, in particular, crimes against women and young girls by those who identify as male.

The BBC has reported that:

"Across England and Wales, excluding Greater Manchester, there were around 50,500 offences involving a sharp instrument recorded in the year ending March 2024. This was 4.4% higher than in 2022/23 and 2.8% lower than in 2019/20" — Knife Crime UK, There's a War Going On (2025)
The writers Jack Thone and Stephan Graham wrote the drama "Adolescence" in response to Incel, Red Pill, Andrew Tate, and Kevin Samuels et al's messages and their influence and role in the murders of Elianne Andam and Ava White, two British schoolgirls murdered by British schoolboys. The questions I was left with once the final credits rolled across my screen were, who is this a message for? Or, who is this a wake-up call for?

After watching the main protagonist — thirteen year old Jamie Miller — placed under the microscope of the Metropolitan Police and a child psychologist, following his arrest for the murder of a thirteen-year-old female classmate, it's episode three that really highlights big questions with deeper analysis and honesty. That's when viewers can see that there's:

  • A message for men about where this "lonely male epidemic" and Incel ideology is leading them personally.
  • A caution or wake-up call for women who are still interested in dating men, even if research and studies confirm that globally this is reducing significantly. Still, there will always be a woman willing to protect men rather than protect herself and other women. It's these women that there is a significant wake-up call for in this series.
Whether or not the young female bullied or teased Jamie, his fate and motivation to harm a female— whether it was at the age of thirteen, or thirty-three — would have always been there. Simply, because he had already been indoctrinated by male influencers who advocate for violence against women and girls, and feel some kind of way because of "women's liberation," and how it has clearly made it harder for men to stake a claim over a woman who may not want anything romantic with them.

Is The Manosphere, Incel, and Red Pill ideology backfiring on adult men, and setting young men up to fail?

My theory around Jamie Miller always being destined to harm a young girl or a woman (as he matured into adulthood) is based on his own viewpoint of women and relationships, the motivation he had for the murder of his female classmate, and the behaviour he demonstrated towards the female psychologist who assessed him.

Incel ideology is discussed in a recent report by the National Library of Medicine, which states the following in their research:

"A small number of studies have recruited Incels. Results from these studies highlight the nuanced nature of the Incel identity. It is also apparent that Incels suffer from high levels of romantic rejection and a greater degree of depressive and anxious symptoms, insecure attachment, fear of being single, and loneliness." — Sparks B, Zidenberg AM, Olver ME. Involuntary Celibacy: A Review of Incel Ideology and Experiences with Dating, Rejection, and Associated Mental Health and Emotional Sequelae. (2022)
Applying the report's findings to Jamie and his own viewpoints and behaviour, if we remove the fact that he was bullied or teased by a girl, episode three of four demonstrated how his Incel mentality and Red Pill association drove him to murder. It was not because she teased him — it was because she rejected his advances for romance and/or a relationship.

If we look deeper and more critically at the time when Jamie Miller decided it was right to approach his murder victim about a relationship, or was "hoping that she would like me" to use his words, it was after another boy had circulated topless pictures of her. At this point in time, according to Jamie Miller, "no one liked her," so he thought if "he liked her she would like me." He also went on to articulate, "she was weak and in a weak position as no one liked her so I thought I had a chance."

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The latter is key here; the question is: if Jamie in his view thought that the best time he would have a chance with a female sexually and romantically was when she was "in a weak position," who else also has this viewpoint? Where did he get it from? The whole of the Manosphere is the only answer. Whether it's the Black or white section of it, men on both sides of the Manosphere praise this "weakened state" of women as being what allows them more access to women.

When we consider where the Red Pill, Incel, and Manosphere ideology is leading men, or in Jamie's case young boys, it's either to more loneliness or prison as per Jamie Miller, it appears their stance on the treatment of women is backfiring on them. Women for sure are not providing these men with more access based on their ideology — women are turning away even more. Hence, we have global dips in marriage and childbirth.

Why the Manosphere and Incels like "women in a weakened state"​

The Manosphere have a general hatred not just for women, but also for the liberation of women. In fact, this is how and why the Manosphere and Incel sub-culture were created, as a response to women's liberation. It's important for women to understand these men blame their inability to attract, retain, and maintain access to certain types of women who they refer to as "modern women" due to:

  • Feminism
  • Women's rights
  • Women's ability to provide for themselves and not need a man
  • Women's overall choice to say "no thanks" to a man she does not find attractive for whatever reason
These are the four main things they attribute to causing "modern women" to be "not living in their true purpose," as they like to say in the Black Manosphere. This demonstrates that for Incel men, regardless of race, the key point in time for them when things were better for them, was when women had no rights; when there were no laws to stop abuse and rape; when women could not work, have a bank account, buy a home, or even say "no" to marriage and dating, or easily obtain a divorce.

It is also apparent that Incels suffer from high levels of romantic rejection and a greater degree of depressive and anxious symptoms, insecure attachment, fear of being single, and loneliness
These Incel men we see on the Internet are not old enough to have lived through this era, yet they deem it when they had "better chances with women." So, in other words, the "weakened state of women," pre-women's rights and liberation, is their preferred era.

Jamie Miller in the crime drama Adolescence thought the same thing. In his thirteen-year-old articulation of this, his female classmate had no right to say "no" to romance, or "no" to anything that he may have wanted from her, especially when she was in a "weakened state," which he described as "no one liked her, so she should have liked me."

In conclusion, it could be argued that Red Pill, Manosphere, and Incel men like women in a "weakened state," as that's when they feel we women will need, like, or want them the most, so it's better for us to be in this state than the state statistics are showing that many women have opted for to be happy, healthy, and live a life not focused on connections with men.

High levels of romantic rejection, and insecure attachment styles

The research into Incel behaviour cited above found that men who are likely to be an Incel also have (insecure) attachment issues when it comes to relationships, display anxious behaviour, and experience high levels of romantic rejection. Looking at Jamie in episode three, he showed all of this.

When the female psychologist confirmed that would be their last session, Jamie's reaction was to freak out about being left, he repeatedly asked "do you like me?"

What this behaviour showed is his insecure and anxious attachment style; it also showed he needed the validation of being liked from a female, even if this female would never be in a position to like him the way he would like due to their massive age difference.

Jamie's anger and rage towards the female psychologist is learned behaviour

In episode three it took the female mental health professional awhile to get to the bottom of Jamie's viewpoint on relationships, treatment of women, and what he sees as masculinity; however, when she did there was a very symbolic moment. It was not what Jamie said, it was a physical action he did. When he flew into a rage and started shouting, he stood above the adult female, and even had the audacity to remain towering over her as she sat down when he had finished his rant. This symbolised how he views a man's and woman's place in the world — male above female.

Even if she was at least twenty years older than he was, he chose to try to exploit his gender (as a thirteen year old boy) by trying to place her in a state of fear as he stood over her, and/or the "weakened state" that Incels and Red Pill swallowers love to have women in. He demonstrated this when he said "boo" and "did I scare you?" which highlighted that he wanted to dominate and rule over a ( grown) woman with fear. The worry here is that this is a thirteen year old boy; imagine when he gets to thirty-three, what he would be capable of.

The message to males from the series

We are very aware of the loneliness epidemic among males; it has been well documented over the last few years, and we know that their chances of dating in the world are significantly reducing as women turn away from men and relationships with them. Is the male response (the Incel, Manosphere, and Red Pill ideology) to their reduced chances with women producing the results males want?

Nope, it's not — women and girls are turning away even more due to the culture they have created for themselves as men, and the violence. In addition, the response from Incel men is just causing younger boys to turn into Incels which will keep the cycle going, causing more loneliness amongst men in the future generations.

Pew Research (2024) found that, "Men are more likely than women to say they want to be parents one day."

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Our World Data confirms that globally the marriage rate is on the decline, it could be argued this is not down to women's liberation as Incel men have perceived it, but down to the lack that men have in dating and relating to women as Psychology Today cited in their research, The Rise of Lonely Single Men (2022).

Clearly if men want these statistics to reverse, for women to actually want to date them, let alone marry them, inward reflection is needed rather than violence against women. In addition, the mindset of Incel men needs a reset. If women are not choosing men or if, according to the Incels, "80% of women are attracted to only 20% of men," then does that not say that 80% of men have work to do in order to be attractive to more women? Incel ideology around violence towards women, and hating "Chad" for being rich, attractive, or less socially awkward, is a very irrational and illogical response to women not wanting to date or have sex with certain men. It's also ruining the future of younger men, who may find themselves in prison for murder due to bad Incel ideology.

The wake-up call for women

There is nothing at all wrong with wanting a relationship with a man — a healthy one. However, for women, Jamie Miller in Adolescence is the future; he is the reality for men who subscribe to Incel and Red Pill mentality, which by the looks of the statistics is millions of men.

The Netflix crime drama is therefore a wake-up call for all women actively dating, and a reality check for the women who side with the Manosphere's insults against women — in particular women who saw clear reasoning in messages from Kevin Samuels' take on "modern women's" deficits.

When we consider where the Red Pill, Incel, and Manosphere ideology is leading men, or in Jamie's case young boys, it's either to more loneliness or prison
While we can do all we can to ensure our sons and young male loved ones don't fall prey to the same online indoctrination Jamie Miller did in Adolescence — we are not here to fix the male adult population, and we are certainly not here to stop defending our liberties and freedom as women as society progresses, or settle for men who "lack," as Psychology Today called it, by lowering the personal standards we have or what we desire in a man or relationship, to stop men from being lonely.

If men want to "go their own way" as one men's movement calls it, allow them. However, you can see clearly that they are unable to do this; they are either killing themselves out of depression over lack of connections with women, or killing us because we don't want a relationship with them.

Our only duty is to look out for each other as adult women, and for the younger women who are tomorrow's victims of young boys like Jamie Miller in Adolescence.

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crimes against women and young girls by those who identify as male.
Men. The word is men. Although I guess pooners are often violent too
two British schoolgirls murdered by British schoolboys.
The former was stabbed to death by a lad called hassan sentamu and the latter by a boy whose identity has been sealed by the courts, so until proven otherwise, both killed by non brits. I am not seeing an epidemic of white boys stabbing girls
so it's better for us to be in this state than the state statistics are showing that many women have opted for to be happy, healthy, and live a life not focused on connections with men.
Wtf? You mean family? God forbid someone might want a family. A life focused on connections with those around you, including both the men and women in your family? Shocking!
caution or wake-up call for women who are still interested in dating men, even if research and studies confirm that globally this is reducing significantly.
This is such an odd article. She’s supposed to be a mother and she’s seething with rage against men. This is the kind of mum who troons out the boy or just emasculates him.
The UK has gotten significantly more dangerous for women the last twenty years or so. The vast majority of that increase is down to unchecked immigration bringing in millions of men from violent cultures that treat women as chattel. The rest of the danger women face is the same as ever - most of it is intimate partner violence for adult men in the family. Stranger violence is still ( or was until the the immigration) low
This whole adolescence thing is behavioural insights team ‘nudge’ driven and it’s basically weaponising women against men. It’s a similar thing to giving men white feathers.
Will it help drop rates of intimate partner violence and domestic abuse? No it won’t. We have had some really good schemes that have, the old Strathclyde police managed to get match day violence down significantly by basically calling known serious offenders and saying ‘if you beat your wife we will ‘ave you’ but clearly that requires some balls to do and the police are better used to catch wrong think these days.
Will it drop rates of immigrant violence? No because they do not give a single shit about guilt and they don’t listen to their women.
So who is this for? The mums of teenage white boys? Come on, really? They’re just not a massive stabby demographic are they.
 
So who is this for? The mums of teenage white boys? Come on, really? They’re just not a massive stabby demographic are they.
It's meant to encourage their mothers to see them that way, the rest of the population to see them that way and justifying discriminating against them in law.

Just basic things needed to bring in increasing totalitarian stuff while pitting the people against one another.
 
It's meant to encourage their mothers to see them that way, the rest of the population to see them that way and justifying discriminating against them in law.

Just basic things needed to bring in increasing totalitarian stuff while pitting the people against one another.
Yes I’ve seen a lot of demonisation of ‘boy moms’ recently.
Ignore the love you have for your children, pleb! Your desire to protect them and equip them against the world is bigoted! Your children are the problem!
I don’t think our school is too bad for the uk, but I’m still very much aware that some of the things they tell them are crazy. There’s been a bit of ‘girls are better than boys’ which is fine in the playground sense, as in that stage where boys are not allowed in the treehouse and girls all have cooties when it comes from the kids themselves and is both directions, but to hear teachers saying it TO the kids is completely wrong and I’ve had to have talks with them.
Parents, talk to your kids about this stuff. It’s really bad for both boys and girls to be terrified of each other or pitted against each other. This might be a nice way to discuss media literacy with your kids if they’re forced to watch it at school.
-what do you feel when you watch the show?
-do you think that’s fair?
-do you think that’s real?
-why might someone want to make you feel like that?
-what might they do or encourage to make that feeling go away?
-how is this like advertising ? ( you’ve all had the advertising talk, right? How all almost all advertising makes you feel bad about something so you feel deficient and crave product to feel better…)
 
So close and yet so far. Relationships between men and women are definitely broken, but both are victims,and women are too naive (or dumb) to understand that incels aren't the reason why.
I absolutely detest people whitewashing incels and their deranged talking points . They are , go tell as a woman the person you are dating they are husband material and see how fast they get convinced by other men that they should dump the woman because "you are her safe option bro" . How about marriage " why buy the cow when you get the milk bro" " dont be beta bux bro" . Any man who complains now about their sex life will dive into their wifes convos and find some text send to a friend decade ago how she found someone more atractive and thats why you sex life sux ignore the the fact that you have 2 kids under 5 and temperamental todler that hogs your wife every night in the bed . No no must be her lust for chad . It ruined relationships , ruined dating and made women literally quit dating or walk on eggshells . It made forver girlfriend the default , made men like andrew tate famous and rich . But noooo they are just harmless little misunderstand retards , you are talking crazy , they dont do much just poison the whole discourse about women and dating. Turned women being fearfull after reading endless jackoffs over the dead bodies of women or "who she voted for" , or deranged rants how women are EVIL for not giving them sex or attention . But sure bud they dindu nuffin .

These men day in and day out say the most vile shit on the internet for everyone to see about women with zero pushback from men btw, and you act like women dont read and dont take it seriosly? On what fucking planet you expect women to just take endless degradation and insults and then act like its not serious ? I am not even going to mention the incel to tranny pipeline in here . The cherry on this shit sundae


I swear you fuckers act around incels the same way as libshits act around niggers . Dindu nuffin he wuz a gud boy
 
It made forver girlfriend the default , made men like andrew tate famous and rich . But noooo they are just harmless little misunderstand retards
Andrew Tate is a retarded thumb-based life form who is also a sex trafficker and is someone you’d be an idiot to take life advice from. The government demonising him has driven his engagement even higher I’m sure.
A government-driven program to make mothers suspicious of their 13 year old sons is not a good thing. Whitewashing the threat to women and children from millions of males from countries that treat women as subhuman is not a good thing. Ignoring domestic violence as the prime source of. Violence against women and children is not a good thing.
The government is pushing this idea that pre teen children are this threat, not the people they’ve imported and unleashed and protect against prosecution. It’s grim.
 
A caution or wake-up call for women who are still interested in dating men
There is nothing at all wrong with wanting a relationship with a man
The Netflix crime drama is therefore a wake-up call for all women actively dating
It is utterly unhinged that this article is implying that a woman wanting to date a man is weird.
I also suspect that this article was at least partially written by AI because it keeps restating the same point over and over.
 
I swear you fuckers act around incels the same way as libshits act around niggers . Dindu nuffin he wuz a gud boy
Ah yes, Incels. Shrodinger's Patriarchy.
Men incapable of acquiring gf but somehow dictate discourse. In spite of being banned off everything and hated everywhere. Incels being the one group you are legally allowed and encouraged to. They somehow manage to control discourse. By complaining about women, online.
A statement so shocking it should come with a free bottle of smelling salts, or the bath salts required to come up with something so stupid.

Incels don't interact with women. If they did they would stop being incels. I encountered a tatelet once and noticed the distinct lack of bitches.
Also for how shocking incels are. I heard much more vile shit about women from trannies. Heck incels become trannies.

If incels talking shit is the cause of women being single maybe that's a good thing.
 
It's pretty fucking insane how heartless the article is. Legitimately man hating and man blaming, seemingly to make other women just as bitter as the author. The UK is turning into something that makes 1984 look like an improvement.
I swear you fuckers act around incels the same way as libshits act around niggers . Dindu nuffin he wuz a gud boy
Where are that mythical incels you are speaking of? This entire movement is probably the biggest gaslighting in the 21st century. Of course you'd see hate towards women online, that doesn't hinges on being an incel.
 
The sheer number of people who think fiction is reality is depressing. This isn't the first time I've seen a headline claiming that the existence of a movie's plot beats prove real life is the same.

"you are her safe option bro"

Mothers have been advising their sons that the pretty girl who only pays attention to them when her current interest mistreats her is not serious and not worth their time since the dawn of civilization.

" why buy the cow when you get the milk bro"

Leading archaeologists have unearthed evidence that this metaphor predates the creation of incels.is in 2018.

Any man who complains now about their sex life will dive into their wifes convos and find some text send to a friend decade ago how she found someone more atractive and thats why you sex life sux ignore the the fact that you have 2 kids under 5 and temperamental todler that hogs your wife every night in the bed . No no must be her lust for chad . It ruined relationships , ruined dating and made women literally quit dating or walk on eggshells . It made forver girlfriend the default , made men like andrew tate famous and rich .

There is no link whatsoever between US marriage rates and the creation of incels.is in 2018. In fact, the year incels.is was registered according to ICANN is the absolute worst year for marriage in the history of America, and marriage actaully rose slightly afterward.


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Clearly, incels have saved marriage in America. Thanks, fellas!


Turned women being fearfull after reading endless jackoffs over the dead bodies of women

If a woman stops looking for a husband because she dug through the Kiwi Farms Dot Ess Tee archives to discover Merry Schizoid's bizarre posts about jacking off to Korean autopsy videos, then she is fucking stupid. Since nobody should marry a fucking idiot and produce fucking idiot offspring, she did the world a favor.
 
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A government-driven program to make mothers suspicious of their 13 year old sons is not a good thing.
Wouldn't need to be a thing if these incels weren't being coddled and enabled by society to be this way. Maybe if the parents actually parented, we would have far less Failmales.

The only person I can think of with their mindset that ever got widespread pushback for inceldom was Chris Chan back in the 2000s.
 
you niggers have been crying incel for over ten fucking years and it's even more retarded now than it was then
unironically, you are getting your panties in a twist over an extreme subset of the male population that would never bother leaving their house to breath the same air as you and simply ceases to be off the internet

holy fucking shit
touch grass

imagine being so retarded you support unironic subversive propaganda just because it agrees with your ridiculous insecurities
the niggers and pakis who would actually do this shit aren't the target for these programs in the first place and they never were or will be
 
Wouldn't need to be a thing if these incels weren't being coddled and enabled by society to be this way. Maybe if the parents actually parented, we would have far less Failmales.

The only person I can think of with their mindset that ever got widespread pushback for inceldom was Chris Chan back in the 2000s.
Please enlighten us how the UNITED KINGDOM coddles incels.
 
i dont think orwell himself in his wildest nightmares would ever have dreamed of propaganda being this effective.
you have a tv show loosely based on a real story of a crime committed by a teenage nigger, the tv show changes the perpetrator to be white, now the prime minister is horrified and implementing schooling policy changes to teach white boys not to murder and the media is stirring up a frenzy about every white boy in the country being a hazard to himself and everyone around him. all white boys are incel killers in the making, look, it said so on the tv, it showed a white kid murdering someone! fucking unreal that people are this gullible and uncritically self-destructively retarded, but since this train is showing no signs of stopping, i guess thats just how it really is.
 
Well I am glad to hear that Incels are just fictional and don't actually exist in real life! I kept being told that men are suffering loneliness like never before and 30+% of young men were sexless virgins and this was because women only want Chad and need to lower their standards because otherwise men will commit acts of violence over not getting any pussy. Thank god this problem is solved! I was getting a bit concerned, but knowing it was all just a scare tactic to manipulate women and not a real issue is a load off my mind.
 
>looooool incels are just all smol peepee incels that can't even get off their mummy's couch
>helpies helpies there's an incel hiding behind my box of raisin bran!


I see we're on the "pretend incels are responsible for everything" stage of the grift.
it's funny when it's in the same exact post and sentence
 
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