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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
This government loves speed running but they fail to realize that when you subject your native population so quickly to something that they oppose it will build resistance.

All it does is push Tory to the right, and where they should be, the problem is that conservatism has been diluted and muddied so much that most UK residents do not know what true conservatism is. Reform - Lowe is a joke of a "right wing" party, and if the Tories want to break ground, just oust all their leaders post Thatcher and say "our party was co-opted but this is our natural flowition." I think there is a twinkle that Jenrick is seeing this. He has the trappings to be a diamond in the rough. actual working class but then working in London and Moscow, young and switched on, and has hard lines.

Babadook is fucked currently as she is slow to respond and seemingly too much of a coward where Jenrick has learnt from people like Vance to be an attack dog.
 
This government loves speed running but they fail to realize that when you subject your native population so quickly to something that they oppose it will build resistance.

All it does is push Tory to the right, and where they should be, the problem is that conservatism has been diluted and muddied so much that most UK residents do not know what true conservatism is. Reform - Lowe is a joke of a "right wing" party, and if the Tories want to break ground, just oust all their leaders post Thatcher and say "our party was co-opted but this is our natural flowition." I think there is a twinkle that Jenrick is seeing this. He has the trappings to be a diamond in the rough. actual working class but then working in London and Moscow, young and switched on, and has hard lines.

Babadook is fucked currently as she is slow to respond and seemingly too much of a coward where Jenrick has learnt from people like Vance to be an attack dog.
Political parties have followed the trajectory of businesses and corporations in the sense they're more partial to acting purely on data and the precedent set by past successes and the successes of their competitors rather than taking any sort of risk or going against the grain as insisted upon by the media or push polls. Rather than listening to the complaints of their 'consumers', the general apathy still causing people to participate in a system they're hating more and more every cycle is a more reliable metric to them. Has Labour at all addressed winning the last election based on the smallest electoral turnout since 2001? At all?

The Conservative party today is led by a a cohort of out-of-touch Etonites forging an unholy alloy composed of pro-private sector Thatcherism with the social policies of Blair's Labour/Clegg's Lib Dems. This status-quo was reinforced thanks to persistent victories throughout the 2010s and a complete brain drain of principled and visionary leaders in the upper echelons of the party. I think if you were Left-wing too, you'd probably be similarly pissed off as any Right-winger, since the Labour party's attempt to change course under Corbyn left them whimpering and running back to being a poor imitation of Blair (who basically tried to echo Thatcher) with the added austerity measures of the 2010s Conservatives. Left and Right essentially exist in a state of limbo, where this business-like approach to politics and trying to attain wide appeal has left most parties floating in the centre, showing simultaneously too much flexibility on their principles whilst also being too arbitrarily rigid on issues that most of the populace express discontentment on. All this coupled with general laziness, self-interest, etcetera with individual politicians.

I think you've pretty much highlighted the solution to a lot of this by using Jenrick and Vance, in that you need to replace the out of touch uniform leadership near the top who already began at the top of society with people who didn't already start there. Someone who is familiar and was apart of the working class, with conservative sentiments and ideas, would probably be unstoppable in UK politics (Boris' former popularity and Farage's current popularity can be attributed to them being able to don the illusion of being such). The Conservative political class being led by people insulated since birth from the rest of society is likely one of the many, many things that got us here. Thatcher, who is considered anathema to the Labourite working class, had an upbringing considerably more humble and based on merit than David Cameron, Bandersnatch, and arguably even Keir whose education began with grammar school (Thatcher won a scholarship to attend one after a period in primary school). The last real gift to the working class, right-to-buy, which made it far cheaper to buy a home if it was council owned or apart of a housing association and you had been living in it for decades, was put in place by her, and why subsequent parties have completely gutted it (percentage discounts going as high as 50% now cap at discounts of 25k). In contrast, Blair's introduced minimum wage justified businesses underpaying young people whilst also introducing tuition fees, ending free university education that had been in place since 1962.

The Pakis need to be reminded that there's far more whites, Hindus, Sikhs,and Buddhists than them and that the last three groups actively despise them.
The main issue is that they outnumber those three groups, so how they feel doesn't factor in. What really needs to be done is to get the first group to despise them more actively and openly, then they might actually start to get nervous. I remember some people mentioning in the summer of discontentment thread early on that during the initial month of the riots, people were perceiving a difference in how they were being treated by their local examples of diversity, assuming said comments weren't just a LARP. If they start to feel unsafe here they might even leave of their own accord, which solves both their problem (lack of perceived safety) and ours (there's too many of them here). That's one of the issues I take with CivNat stuff because it reassures them for the most part and is basically toothless since calling yourself 'British' with no other adjustments is enough. If they have no incentive to leave of their own accord, then they never will.

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I remember some people mentioning in the summer of discontentment thread early on that during the initial month of the riots, people were perceiving a difference in how they were being treated by their local examples of diversity, assuming said comments weren't just a LARP.
That summer really put the shits up some people. I wasn't around for it, but I talked to a mate recently that was that told me a mutual friend of ours (who we lovingly call "Dunkel") didn't want to go on a night out because he was nervous of getting beat up. To put this in perspective, the name is ironic - he's like a tiiiiiny bit darker than the rest of us because he has one Malaysian grandparent, but still, he was apparently worried. This was in the North West, fairly near Southport, just for context.

So yeah, I can believe that the violence changed people's behaviours, for sure. All I'm thinking is, well yeah seems like it gets results.
 
I wasn't around for it, but I talked to a mate recently that was that told me a mutual friend of ours (who we lovingly call "Dunkel") didn't want to go on a night out because he was nervous of getting beat up.
Thing is a lot of that is the fear porn pumped into us by the media, largely with the government's encouragement as their push around that Netflix series should have made clear for everyone paying attention.

It was like the post Southport riot weekend claims that there would be mass riots and violent action across the entire country on the Wednesday I believe? Despite Monday and Tuesday making it very clear that the protestors had gone back to work and the people out to riot were either bored, hungover or not willing to come out without cover. Yet suddenly, conveniently timed when Hope Not Hate and all the other lot had their counter protests good to go with their various useful idiots riled up, there were "credible reports" of these incoming protests. Verified by police, government, every media outlet you care to name and more. Which scared the living heck out of a lot of people in the areas they were meant to happen and then failed to manifest.

Or to phrase it differently they are all a bunch of lying (I can see the end of Lent, I am going to use every four letter word under the sun when it arrives).
 
@>IMPLYING Can you please fuck off? I don't know where you came from but your thousand word essays contribute nothing to this Greggs,

The fact you like that gay Picard/Data faggy fab video song thing means you should obtain a rope, tie it into a slip knot, and hang your fucking self.
You can't be outing yourself as a wog like this by being unwilling to read. :story:
 
Been a while since I did some articles.

Decent Telegraph one on an area with serious unemployment issues.
It is a sunny spring Monday morning, and the centre of Stockton-on-Tees is busy.
At first, it appears this County Durham town could be a sign that the great British high street is not dead after all. But the number of people out and about is actually a symptom of a different problem.
This part of Stockton has the highest rate of worklessness in the country.
According to the 2021 census, 67 per cent of all working-age adults in an area to the north of the high street are economically inactive – the highest rate anywhere in the country, except where there are prisons and care homes.

The national average, excluding students and retirees, is 16.6 per cent.
The census also found that 43 per cent of people in this part of town had no qualifications, and only 11 people had worked in the previous 12 months. Of a total population of 321, 163 adults aged between 16 and 64 said they had never worked.

For locals here, there is a very simple explanation.
“Everything is easier if you go on benefits,” says stay-at-home mother-of-one Chelsea Robinson, 28, who is out with her one-year-old son Reggie and is not on welfare herself.
“You get everything given to you. You get the same amount as you would working in a shop, if not more, because you get your house paid for and everything, don’t you, on benefits.”
Her sister-in-law, Nicola Smith, 39, agrees. “It’s the biggest problem in Stockton, I’d say,” says the car dealership manager. “Because some people just don’t want to work.”
That is not what the Government would have you believe. On Wednesday, Angela Rayner, the Deputy Prime Minister, insisted that those on benefits want to work. “It’s a working class thing that people do want to be able to provide for their families and themselves,” she said. “They don’t want handouts, they want support.”

Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, said similarly that “thousands” of disabled claimants are “desperate to work, if only they were provided with the support”.
But across Britain, there are now more than nine million working-age adults who are economically inactive – up by 900,000 since the Covid pandemic began in 2020.
It is one of the key factors behind the surge in welfare that will see spending on health and disability benefits soar from £65 billion to more than £100 billion a year by 2029.
And despite £4.3 billion of benefits cuts being unveiled in Wednesday’s Spring Statement, welfare spending remains on track to hit a record £373.4 billion in 2030 as the tax burden reaches a record high of 37.7 per cent.

With a number of handsome Georgian buildings and an imposing Grade I listed parish church, Stockton is not the stereotypical deprived Northern town. It has a proud industrial history and was where, in 1825, George Stephenson launched the world’s first passenger railway – the Stockton and Darlington Railway.

But deindustrialisation has left Teesside’s once world-leading chemicals, steel and shipbuilding industries a shadow of their former selves. Lads can no longer leave school without qualifications and walk into an apprenticeship that becomes a job for life.
The consequences are clear on Norton Road – running from north to south through this census “output area” – which consists largely of vape shops, takeaways and boarded-up pubs.
Across Stockton North, the broader constituency that includes the output area, one in four (26.3 per cent) working-age residents claim Universal Credit, compared to 18 per cent nationally. Just half the claimants (52 per cent) are expected to find work, and one in eight residents (12 per cent) are on disability benefits.

Pensioner Kathleen Atkinson, 77, believes industrial decline is to blame. “The industries that their parents had don’t exist any more,” she explains as her husband Cliff, 78, a retired fitter and turner, looks on. “And there’s nothing there to fill the gap.”

Wendy Hughes, a retired council worker, adds that industrial collapse has made unemployment a generational norm for many families in which children grow up without their parents showing them the dignity of work. “A lot of it depends on their background,” said Mrs Hughes, 60.
“A lot of young people have to fend for themselves from a young age. If you come from a decent home, then it’s alright. But a lot of these kids don’t. I think the Government doesn’t think about that enough.”
Across Stockton-on-Tees, seven per cent of 16 and 17-year-olds are not in education, training or employment – higher than the national average of five per cent.
If locals were given more opportunities, argues Josh Elliott, they would snap them up. The 32-year-old works at the Globe Theatre, which hosted the Beatles and the Rolling Stones in its heyday and has recently been restored to its art deco prime.

He argues that the Globe, as well as an ongoing council-led regeneration of the town centre’s River Tees waterfront, shows that those who are out of work need to be given a chance.

“It’s just about giving them the opportunity,” he explains. “That’s all it is. Showing them that they can do it, and they can do it in their home town as well.”
But others are more sceptical. John Duff, 55, is an out-of-work construction worker who would be on welfare were it not for an inheritance from his late parents last year.
“I get job alerts on my phone for all kinds of jobs,” says the former binman. “There’s loads of work if you want it.”
So why do people stay unemployed? “It’s the old mental health,” replies Mr Duff. “They say they’ve got problems when there’s not really nothing wrong with them.
“Say you have a problem, get a few doctor’s notes, put them in and then you get PIP [personal independence payments]. For anxiety, and stuff. But everyone gets anxiety. You’re not human, are you, if you don’t.”

The rocketing number of PIP claims for mental health conditions such as anxiety and ADHD now costs the taxpayer £3.5 billion a year.
The benefit, paid to disabled people, is at the centre of the Government’s welfare reforms which will reduce the number of those eligible by 800,000, at an average cost to each of £4,500 a year.

Deborah Pitt is terrified by the prospect. The former food service worker, 63, receives PIP and Universal Credit because she is “riddled with arthritis” and also has heart problems.
“It is scary,” she says when I ask about the reforms. “They’re taking the pensioners’ benefits away, and now they’re going to take the disability benefits away. But illegal immigrants come, and they get everything paid for, and the benefits get taken off us.”
Mrs Pitt’s remarks indicate that the most significant consequences of Britain’s worklessness epidemic may be political.
In every conversation in Stockton, there is an undercurrent of resentment: from those who work towards those who do not, and from those on the receiving end of cuts towards Britain’s migrant population.
In last year’s election, Reform UK came second to Labour in Stockton North. Next time, Nigel Farage’s party may go one better, capitalising on discontent at the state of the country.
That is the hope of Ian Robinson, 55, as he smokes outside The Castle and Anchor, which is doing a roaring trade despite it only being 10.30am.
“Just smashing the benefits, aren’t they?” the out-of-work plasterer says of his fellow workless. “No one wants Starmer, he’s a s---head. We need a Donald Trump, don’t we? This country wants a kick up the arse.”
A train union called a strike after one of its members was dismissed for falling asleep on duty. Possibly not for the first time.
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A train driver whose sacking has prompted a 56-day trade union strike fell asleep at the controls and failed to officially report it, it has emerged. The Aslef union organised the eight-week walkout at Hull Trains from March 31 after one of its members was dismissed.
Mick Whelan, the general secretary, condemned Hull Trains for its “failure to act responsibly” and suggested the driver had been sacked because he had reported a “safety concern”.
But a letter seen by The Telegraph reveals the unnamed driver had experienced “fatigue matters” while at the controls of Hull Trains’ 125mph services on more than one occasion.


Aslef is demanding that the driver be fully reinstated to his job, but Hull Trains bosses believe he poses an unacceptable safety risk to passengers. Martijn Gilbert, the managing director, said the discovery of the fatigue incidents presented “a safety risk that we could not ignore”.
A source familiar with the case said the driver himself had revealed that he had fallen asleep at the controls – but had only mentioned it in passing some time later.
Nigel Roebuck, an Aslef organiser, previously said the driver had been working “for more than 20 years with a completely clean safety record” prior to being sacked.

However, in a letter sent to Mr Roebuck and Mr Whelan, Mr Gilbert revealed that the man had been supported through a number of “previous similar issues”.
The letter, sent to all Hull Trains staff and seen by The Telegraph, said: “The disclosures made by this driver, especially against a backdrop of previous similar issues where full support and feedback was given, presented us with a safety risk that we could not ignore.


“Given the previous instances, including one within the 12 months prior to this where similar fatigue matters were also not properly reported, after much support and guidance we have reached a point where we cannot be confident that they can be trusted to properly report safety matters in a safe and appropriate way, so that we can support them and manage the risk.”
Automatic safety systems, including the “dead man’s handle”, would have stopped a train if it had passed a red stop signal. The handle is depressed by the driver whenever the train is in motion. If he lets go, the emergency brakes are triggered.
However, if the train had been switched to a different line with a lower speed limit while the driver was asleep, it could have derailed.
Although Aslef announced the 56-day strike after the driver was sacked, its members have not all responded to the call. Only about a fifth of services have been cancelled by the walkout, suggesting not all union members believe that the action is justified.

A spokesman for Hull Trains said: “Hull Trains follows highly regulated industry standard agreements and procedures for safety. We have stringent safety reporting processes and provide extensive ongoing training and health and wellbeing support for our colleagues, which has secured industry recognition.


“The safety concern claimed in the response by Aslef is in direct relation to the individual concerned, but it would be inappropriate to comment further on a specific case.”
Aslef, on behalf of the driver, did not respond to a request for comment.
It comes after Heidi Alexander, the Transport Secretary, said in Parliament that strikes over safety on the railways were necessary.
Gareth Bacon, the shadow transport secretary, quoted Ms Alexander, who had previously said on the BBC’s Politics Live programme that “there will be occasions on which strikes will be necessary” and asked: “Could the Secretary of State please provide the House with an example of a necessary strike?”
Ms Alexander, previously the deputy responsible for transport to Sir Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, replied: “He will know that I have extensive experience from my time in London where we did take strikes when safety was at risk, and so that would be one direct example I would give him.”
BBC caring about illegal immigration scams

Recruitment agents who scam foreign nationals applying to work in the UK care sector have been exposed by BBC secret filming.
One of the rogue agents is a Nigerian doctor who has worked for the NHS in the field of psychiatry.
The Home Office has acknowledged the system is open to abuse, but the BBC World Service's investigation shows the apparent ease with which these agents can scam people, avoid detection, and continue to profit.
Our secret filming reveals agents' tactics, including:
  • Illegally selling jobs in UK care companies
  • Devising fake payroll schemes to conceal that some jobs do not exist
  • Shifting from care to other sectors, like construction, that also face staff shortages
Reports of immigration scams have increased since a government visa scheme - originally designed to let foreign medical professionals work in the UK - was broadened in 2022 to include care workers.
To apply for the visa, candidates must first obtain a "Certificate of Sponsorship" (CoS) from a UK employer who is licensed by the Home Office. It is the need for CoS documents that is being exploited by rogue relocation agents.
"The scale of exploitation under the Health and Care Work visa is significant," says Dora-Olivia Vicol, CEO of Work Rights Centre, a charity that helps migrants and disadvantaged people in the UK access employment justice.
"I think it has turned into a national crisis."
She says there is "systemic risk inherent" in the sponsorship system, because it "puts the employer in a position of incredible power" and has "enabled this predatory market of middlemen to mushroom".
The BBC sent two undercover journalists to approach relocation agents working in the UK.
One met Dr Kelvin Alaneme, a Nigerian doctor and founder of the agency, CareerEdu, based in Harlow, Essex.
His website states his business is a "launchpad for global opportunities catering to young Africans", claiming to have 9,800 "happy clients".
Believing the BBC undercover journalist was well connected in the UK care sector, Dr Alaneme tried to recruit her to become an agent for his business, saying it would be very lucrative.
"Just get me care homes. I can make you a millionaire," he said.
As a potential business partner, our journalist was then given unprecedented insight into how immigration scams by agents like Dr Alaneme actually work. Dr Alaneme said he would pay £2,000 ($2,600) for each care home vacancy she was able to procure, and offered £500 ($650) commission on top.
He then said he would sell the vacancies to candidates back in Nigeria.
Charging candidates for a job is illegal in the UK.
"They [the candidates] are not supposed to be paying because it's free. It should be free," he said, lowering his voice.
"They are paying because they know it's most likely the only way."
The BBC began investigating him following a series of online complaints about his relocation services.
Praise - from south-east Nigeria and in his mid 30s - was one of those who complained, claiming he paid Dr Alaneme more than £10,000 ($13,000) for a job in the UK. He says he was told he was going to be working with a care company called Efficiency for Care, based in Clacton-on-Sea. It was only when he arrived that he realised the job didn't exist.

"If I had known there was no job, I would have not come here," he says. "At least back home in Nigeria, if you go broke, I can find my sister or my parents and go and eat free food. It's not the same here. You will go hungry."
Praise says he messaged Efficiency for Care and Dr Alaneme for months, asking when he could start working. Despite promises of assistance from Dr Alaneme, the job never materialised. Almost a year later, he found a position with another care provider willing to sponsor him to remain in the UK.
Our investigation found that Efficiency for Care employed - on average - 16 people in 2022, and 152 in 2023. Yet a letter sent from the Home Office to the company dated May 2023 - and seen by the BBC - showed it had issued 1,234 Certificates of Sponsorship to foreign workers between March 2022 and May 2023.
Efficiency for Care's sponsorship licence was revoked in July 2023. The care company can no longer recruit from abroad, but continues to operate.
It told the BBC it strongly refutes the allegation it colluded with Dr Alaneme. It said it believed it lawfully recruited staff from Nigeria and other countries. It has challenged the Home Office's revocation of its sponsorship licence, it said, and the matter is now in court.
In another secretly filmed meeting, Dr Alaneme shared an even more sophisticated scam involving sponsorship documents for jobs that did not exist.
He said the "advantage" of having a CoS that is unconnected to a job "is that you can choose any city you want".
"You can go to Glasgow. You can stay in London. You can live anywhere," he told us.
This is not true. If a migrant arrives in the UK on a Health and Care Work visa and does not work in the role they have been assigned, their visa could be cancelled and they risk being deported.
In the secret filming, Dr Alaneme also described how to set up a fake payroll system to mask the fact the jobs are not real.
"That [a money trail] is what the government needs to see," he said.
Dr Alaneme told the BBC he strenuously denied services offered by CareerEdu were a scam or that it acted as a recruitment agency or provided jobs for cash. He said his company only offered legitimate services, adding that the money Praise gave him was passed on to a recruitment agent for Praise's transport, accommodation and training. He said he offered to help Praise find another employer free of charge.
The BBC also carried out undercover filming with another UK-based recruitment agent, Nana Akwasi Agyemang-Prempeh, after several people told the BBC they had collectively paid tens of thousands of pounds for care worker positions for their friends and family that, it transpired, did not exist.
They said some of the Certificates of Sponsorship Mr Agyemang-Prempeh gave them had turned out to be fakes - replicas of real CoS issued by care companies.

We discovered Mr Agyemang-Prempeh had then begun offering CoS for UK jobs in construction - another industry that allows employers to recruit foreign workers. He was able to set up his own construction company and obtain a sponsorship licence from the Home Office.
Our journalist, posing as a UK-based Ugandan businessman wanting to bring Ugandan construction workers over to join him, asked Mr Agyemang-Prempeh if this was possible.
He replied it was - for the price of £42,000 ($54,000) for three people.
Mr Agyemang-Prempeh told us he had moved into construction because rules are being "tightened" in the care sector - and claimed agents were eyeing other industries.
"People are now diverting to IT," Mr Agyemang-Prempeh told the undercover journalist.

More than 470 licences in the UK care sector were revoked by the government between July 2022 and December 2024. Those licensed sponsors were responsible for the recruitment of more than 39,000 medical professionals and care workers from October 2020.
Mr Agyemang-Prempeh later asked for a downpayment for the Certificates of Sponsorship, which the BBC did not make.
The Home Office has now revoked his sponsorship licence. Mr Agyemang-Prempeh's defence, when challenged by the BBC, was that he had himself been duped by other agents and did not realise he was selling fake CoS documents.
In a statement to the BBC, the Home Office said it has "robust new action against shameless employers who abuse the visa system" and will "ban businesses who flout UK employment laws from sponsoring overseas workers".
BBC investigations have previously uncovered similar visa scams targeting people in Kerala, India, and international students living in the UK who want to work in the care sector.
In November 2024, the government announced a clampdown on "rogue" employers hiring workers from overseas. Additionally, from 9 April, care providers in England will be required to prioritise recruiting international care workers already in the UK before recruiting from overseas.
No mention of actually deporting the people who get into the country via these scams.
 
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@>IMPLYING Can you please fuck off? I don't know where you came from but your thousand word essays contribute nothing to this Greggs,

The fact you like that gay Picard/Data faggy fab video song thing means you should obtain a rope, tie it into a slip knot, and hang your fucking self.
Just slap him on ignore if it bothers you that much you illiterate darkie, I actually enjoy the long form writeism, not everyone's cup of Assam's finest I admit though I am a bit of an intellectual masochist.
The fuzzy wuzzy has a point though - this implying fellow says less with more words than I thought possible. I don't even disagree with him, but he's so fucking boring.
You're supposed to digest the word diarrhea to formulate your own mental vitamins FYI.
 
The fuzzy wuzzy has a point though - this implying fellow says less with more words than I thought possible. I don't even disagree with him, but he's so fucking boring.
Sneed.
TLDR: Writing lots is easy to me. Some appreciate it, others don't. I tend to write a lot I think because it's easier to argue for pessimism in current circumstances, whereas optimism requires some justification. I'll try to keep things tight and tidy from now on, or hide the more egregiously long examples behind a spoiler.
 
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I do write a lot, and have apologised for such in some of my particularly lengthy posts. I do worry it comes off as masturbatory, but I think some of the kind words I got reassured me that such a worry was just in my head. If there's any perception that I think what I'm writing is anything special or profound, I assure you, I don't. Writing a ton is just easy for me so I don't think much of it as a consequence. I think when trying to argue for hope and whatnot, you need to spend more time justifying and defending it since it's so much easier to be hopeless by contrast nowadays, where a platitude is enough for the opposite. When I discuss one thing I might veer off into another because that might also need addressing, so on and so forth. A dry wall of text talking about concepts, ideas and other shit from someone who isn't particularly smart isn't that engaging for most, but I also really do appreciate the stickers and/or nice words I receive from users who like my posts. I think it all depends on whether it's your cup of tea or not, I do apologise for how frequent I've been in doing so though, and how I haven't been as concise in making a point as I should. I'll endeavour to be tightly paced from hereon out if I make any long posts again. Can't promise to be any less boring though.
TLDR: Writing lots is easy to me. Some appreciate it, others don't. I tend to write a lot I think because it's easier to argue pessimism in current circumstances, whereas optimism requires some justification. I'll try to keep things tight and tidy from now on, or hide the more egregiously long examples behind a spoiler.
Nigga, put down the thesaurus and learn to express yourself clearly and concisely.
 
whereas optimism requires some justification.
As a more general commentary on your essays, optimism is fine, it is a good thing. Except when optimism advocates inaction. That's when you get into "Trust the plan" style undermining of efforts to actually fix things. And it's a pernicious temptation because it excuses the risk of confronting authority. Something which is increasingly necessary.
 
@>IMPLYING Can you please fuck off? I don't know where you came from but your thousand word essays contribute nothing to this Greggs,

The fact you like that gay Picard/Data faggy fab video song thing means you should obtain a rope, tie it into a slip knot, and hang your fucking self.
Bro, you've posted your jungle fever fetish for Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke Badenoch. You should not be throwing stones.
 
No one wants Starmer, he’s a s---head. We need a Donald Trump, don’t we? This country wants a kick up the arse.”
Every single person interviewed for the article has a better grasp of what’s wrong than our political elite.
That's because the current setup and its downward trajectory is either not a problem for or to the advantage of the political elite.
 
As a more general commentary on your essays, optimism is fine, it is a good thing. Except when optimism advocates inaction. That's when you get into "Trust the plan" style undermining of efforts to actually fix things. And it's a pernicious temptation because it excuses the risk of confronting authority. Something which is increasingly necessary.
I don't disagree, and I do always stress that hope shouldn't undermine anger, discontentment, or lead to inaction. There is no one person who'll 'fix' everything, but that thought shouldn't leave you believing things are unfixable. My position is largely based on seeing the opposite happen far more often and far more frequently. They'll share one of a dozen platitudes about pessimism (something to the tune of "nothing can be done", "things will only get worse, "there's no chance so I give up", or "I'm leaving the country"), maybe cite an anecdote or create a LARP about why their perspective is correct (a pessimist LARPing in another thread is my origin story ), and continue to stress things will continue to get worse with no recourse. Things being beyond the point of repair is a position far too many will accept, which is a greater temptation to do nothing at all than having some optimism for the future. If you believe there's no future, then why do anything in the present that will only pay off then?
 
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