Mark Edward Kern / Grummz / Debbichan / foxyfighter - Former WoW Team Lead and "anti-DEI" grifter, would rather commission lesbian wrestling porn than finish a game

[Illuminati Order Official]

You can say he's a weird freak, it's just when you put him next to someone else on the site like Ana Valens, who is perpetually broke and begging for rent for their NYC apartment, and is known for porn authorship where natal women are imprisoned Iike livestock and systematically raped by their trans overlords who are also half-angel/half-demon, you might be inclined to think "how quaint, 60 yr old game man is horny, but not psycho."

I think the difference is in who they are.
Valens is a retarded neet who built his "career" on youtube and by publishing in rather niche websites. He's also a very open deviant. You know that nothing good will ever come from this person.
Kern presents himself as an accomplished man, industry insider and a voice of reason in an industry that's leaning too far to one side. When he makes a promise - you can expect he'll deliver what he promised. You can also expect that he doesn't engage in Vales-level degeneracy. Therefore when he's revealed to be a degenerate it obviously draws more attention.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Thing is I can 100% just quote a bunch of the posts in here where people were lke "ah no it was just lesbian werestling? Huh that's tamer than expected". There's clearly a lttle bt of playng up n you guys' back and forth but there's n doubt about there being people comiing into the thread and just going "oh so he just lkes lesbians? who cares? why do you care?" Fuck man even I replied to some of those people pointing out how fucking stupid it is to say that when the guy had actual dobson-esque fucked up shit to a slightly larger extreme because of how long he's been going with it.

The massive arms race of lolcow insanity over the years has ruined people's perspective. This shit ends up looking tame because it is going up against stuff that is so much worse.

It's like comparing slop food from a bar in your neighbourood which is notoriously bad and only still in business because people go there to drink beer, to Jack Scalfani cooking.

In a sane world you would consider the food from that shitty bar bad. But you cannot unsee what a real culinary horror show is like after having witnessed Scalfani creations.

 

[blackface enthusiast]

so far no one has been saying he's cool. everyone in the thread has just been saying "wow yeah that's weird,"

There have been a couple of Grummz guarders doing that and people who didn't really read the full context, but they're a minority. Most people recognize it's funny but not as serious as certain posters are trying to play it up as. Ironically, the ones flailing around trying to build the porn part up into than it really is are the ones downplaying the other aspect of this which is the actual important part, which is the accusation of him embezzling development money into his fetish art. That's the really retarded, funny lolwcow angle to this. Only a lolcow would be stupid enough to do something that hilarious.

one of the people she was arguing with dishonestly, actually expressed that that shit was weird and not okay, as well as concern for his wife. but lidl just sees what she wants.

I don't know why anyone gives the man hate thread regulars the time of day. All they do is wander into other threads and shit them up and derail them. They're pouting that everyone's not morally outraged at his porn of lesbians beating each other up when it's fairly tame as far as lolcow fetishes go which is detracting from the actual juicy legal aspect of this case. No one who is familiar with Mark is surprised he's a coomer with a cringy fetish, but it's not that important unless it leads to revelations he did this kind of thing to actual women or it treaded into something really degenerate like lusting over underage girls. (The e-mail address is suspect but not a smoking gun.)

"60 year old grifting coomer gets caught embezzling development funds into cringy porn commissions, women most affected," is not the feature headline here.

 

[Synthetic Smug]

J

I only followed Grummz because it made the trannies mad during the Hogwarts legacy “controversy”. I soon realized that he was just as retarded as the trannies

You don't have to like him to think that chopping your dick off is more retarded.

 

[Harm]

Jesus motherfucking Christ. I'd thought the porn stuff was just "dumb lesbian wrestling kink stuff" until I read the story where his self-insert is stomping his wife's pussy, fantasizing about how the zipper's permanently destroying her labia.

That's pretty fucking despicable. If you're not disturbed by that, then you're probably a bit fucked up yourself.

There's "then Marissa put her in an octopus stretch and began sweating on Debbi," and then there's "SHE STOMPED HER WITHERING PUSSY INTO SMITHEREENS AND THEN GROUND THE ZIPPER INTO HER LIPS CAUSING PERMANENT DISFIGURATION."

 

[Pizdec]

So is it fair to say Mark got drunk as shit, woke up, saw the traction, and is now having a hungover spergout? I watched the video, and while the lesbian porn is on the surfice amusing, when it gets into the whole violence part, it... I think the breadtuber put it best: he's very mad and very horny. It makes you wonder why or what made Mark's ex wife finally leave him. Ultimately I'm looking forward to seeing if the California AG is intending to drag Kern to court for a few hundred thousand dollars, or will freeze and seize what little assets he has under the lein he already has.

The massive arms race of lolcow insanity over the years has ruined people's perspective. This shit ends up looking tame because it is going up against stuff that is so much worse.

It's like comparing slop food from a bar in your neighbourood which is notoriously bad and only still in business because people go there to drink beer, to Jack Scalfani cooking.

In a sane world you would consider the food from that shitty bar bad. But you cannot unsee what a real culinary horror show is like after having witnessed Scalfani creations.

Pretty much this, my mind is also tainted with Badspot's (Eric Hartman) lesbian porn earnings, only, Badspot actually made enough to keep it going whilst idly continuing to poke at Blockland, but Mark made almost nothing, and kept spending money he didn't have in what can only be assumed to be a sunken fallacy to make some kind of earnings when his own gamedev ventures failed again and again.

 

[numetalborder]

I don't know why anyone gives the man hate thread regulars the time of day.

Thought she sounded weird, what normal person says "penis brothers". Opinion on anything discarded.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Creator of Underrail is not Czech. If it makes you feel any better he hates Elon Musk as well as the faggotry.
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styg is a devout christian, this is very much within what i would expect from him.

Thing is I can 100% just quote a bunch of the posts in here where people were lke "ah no it was just lesbian werestling? Huh that's tamer than expected". There's clearly a little bit of playing up in you guys' back and forth, but there's no doubt about there being people coming into the thread and just going "oh so he just likes lesbians? who cares? why do you care?" Fuck man even I replied to some of those people pointing out how fucking stupid it is to say that when the guy had actual dobson-esque fucked up shit to a slightly larger extreme because of how long he's been going with it.

i concede that there are people in the thread not paying attention to what was actually in the porn, i should've known better than to think people would all view the source material, it's pretty unappealing to a lot of people even on its face.

 

[blackface enthusiast]

That's pretty fucking despicable. If you're not disturbed by that, then you're probably a bit fucked up yourself.

It's just not very surprising given the kind of person Mark is, and his stated interests even before this information came to light. But it's just fantasy, it's him impotently trying to get some kind of revenge on his ex, which is what makes it more funny than morally outrageous IMO. If it turns out he was materially abusive to his ex or any other partners then there's something to work with, but beyond that it's just embarrassing and funny that the best he could do to the woman who dumped his loser ass is write fanfiction where he beats her up.

 

[Hand Banana]

It's unreal how you niggers can use Kiwi Farms for so long and still not understand that troons don't just stick to hecking wholesome lesbian porn.

Most people are completely desensitized to porn and fetishes nowadays. If Dobson was found today with lesbian inflation porn no one would think it's as milky as it was in the heyday, when we were more innocent and weird fetish shit like vore and inflation were relatively unknown. I think Dobson's inflation lesbian porn is actually less weird and creepy(by an inch, but still), because it's at least unrealistic, so he will never be able to inflate a woman into a balloon and subject a woman to his autistic fetish. Meanwhile, the piece Grummz commissioned of the woman with a bottle stuck in her genitals is something reminiscent of Junko Furuta's murder case, where the same thing was done to her. There is also evidence that links violent porn to violent sex crimes. This guy isn't a ''level 3'' creep, this guy is a ''wouldn't trust alone with women and children'' level creep.

 

[Harm]

This guy isn't a ''level 3'' creep, this guy is a ''wouldn't trust alone with women and children'' level creep.

Bingo. The whole "it's a fantasy" defense is the same exact line "mrgirl" Max Karson tried to push. It's not a defense that assuages concerns. It says to me "if this person could do anything they wish without having to face the negative consequences, this is what they'd do." People aren't fantasizing about things they don't want to do themselves.

Mark Kern would disfigure women's genitalia if he could, and the only reason he can't is because others would intervene.

 

[DickoTheClown]

Most people recognize it's funny but not as serious as certain posters are trying to play it up as. Ironically, the ones flailing around trying to build the porn part up into than it really is are the ones downplaying the other aspect of this which is the actual important part, which is the accusation of him embezzling development money into his fetish art. That's the really retarded, funny lolwcow angle to this. Only a lolcow would be stupid enough to do something that hilarious.

As one of the posters in question, I just want the emphasis to be that he embezzled money to make violent and rapey lesbian self-insert porn, not just that he embezzled money to make uwu soft vanilla lesbian wrestling porn.

But yes, ultimately agreed: the more important (and way funnier) argument that everyone is missing (largely because the breadboy didn't make it the focus of his video like he should have) is the mysterious expenditures and money transfers, and the question of where all the Em8er backer money went. Also of note. His little fetish porn site was still active during his two-year "family health crisis" "hiatus" from "developing" his "game." Odd bit of overlap there that I'd love to see people dive into. I'm sure it definitely wouldn't send Mark into yet another downward spiral.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

The whole "it's a fantasy" defense is the same exact line "mrgirl" Max Karson tried to push.

It's the same as saying lolicons are OK because it's just a drawing. We all know that people enjoying it are either abusing children or want to abuse children but fear the consequences.

 

[DickoTheClown]

It's the same as saying lolicons are OK because it's just a drawing. We all know that people enjoying it are either abusing children or want to abuse children but fear the consequences.

The "it's just a drawing and doesn't mean I'm attracted to kids" people get awfully upset when you ask them why they don't goon to drawings of big muscular men since it's just a drawing and doesn't mean they're attracted to men.

 

[Love Machine]

I wonder if porn is bad for you or something?

Also lets all remember that the complaint from the hambly-styled grifter is to complain that woman arent hot enough in games.

Porn consumption is totally based and red pilled huh guys? Its a great sign when you make it the bases of your social argument for "le spirit of gaming"

 

[DickoTheClown]

I wonder if porn is bad for you or something?

Also lets all remember that the complaint from the hambly-styled grifter is to complain that woman arent hot enough in games.

Porn consumption is totally based and red pilled huh guys? Its a great sign when you make it the bases of your social argument for "le spirit of gaming"

Porn consumption by adults on its own is fine.

Porn addiction is how we get retards like Grummz.

 

[Rotollo 2]

>find out grummz basically made fanfic of him beating his wife
>make it instead mostly frontloaded with him spending his money on lesbian gooner bullshit
Are soys retarded? I was watching chud and even he thought the way they presented him made it a nothing burger/underwelming. Lead with the "he made fanfic of him beating his wife" first and maybe talk about how it was lesbian fetish porn funded by Ember money later. kinda feel the way it was presented took alot of the bite out of the story's impact it would have if they knew how to structure videos to be under an hour long

 

[Pizdec]

>find out grummz basically made fanfic of him beating his wife
>make it instead mostly frontloaded with him spending his money on lesbian gooner bullshit
Are soys retarded? I was watching chud and even he thought the way they presented him made it a nothing burger/underwelming. Lead with the "he made fanfic of him beating his wife" first and maybe talk about how it was lesbian fetish porn funded by Ember money later. kinda feel the way it was presented took alot of the bite out of the story's impact it would have

Nooooooo we can't have one video where we front load about how he's a wife beater, we gotta get his a-logs incensed enough to report to the police about his tax evasion, and when my lawyer clears it we can do a part two where we speculate about how the comic is a fantasy about how much he want to beat and mutilate his wife. Remember gais everything I talk about is legal no matter how much mean old man Grummz tweets to Daddy Elon.

Breadtubers: not even once.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

the stunted old dude whose main concern is being able to jerk off to videogame characters? What an unsurprising turn of events.

And for the record: Yes, a 60 year old Asian man pretending to be a horny teen girl while masturbating to violent lesbian fetish material, is very, VERY weird, creepy, and embarrassing. Embezzling money to satisfy an addiction to fetish porn is pathetic and deplorable behavior. And personally, I would no longer trust someone if I learned they were getting off to violent sexual material like this.

If YOU, kiwi farmer, imagine yourself as the opposite sex for the purpose of arousal, chronically masturbate to fetish material, and are so porn brained that you regularly pay for porn commissions, you are also a freak.

Just because that's normal compared to the depths of the internet doesn't mean it's normal by normal person standards.

 

[Rotollo 2]

Nooooooo we can't have one video where we front load about how he's a wife beater, we gotta get his a-logs incensed enough to report to the police about his tax evasion, and when my lawyer clears it we can do a part two where we speculate about how the comic is a fantasy about how much he want to beat and mutilate his wife. Remember gais everything I talk about is legal no matter how much mean old man Grummz tweets to Daddy Elon.

Breadtubers: not even once.

what a world we live in when even ethan Klein understands how to engage viewers with a callout video more than people who are paid to do so