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That would always be "the thing" with the retards. Some may think I'm a retard - yet "Amen" will be the new "Sieg Heil", eventually. What I'm surprised was that it was for such a little thing, lmao.
Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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brownsuagrbubbletea
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Yeah I mentioned this person before a page or two ago, they lurk here and know we mentioned themView attachment 7157006
when an actual teenager calls you out like this (again, assuming this isn't a troll), you know you screwed up. Kicker is that most of the comments are agreeing with her.
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.....I honestly don't know how to feel about this.
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I was very taken aback lol
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Both the animation and the characters in the pilot were better, Charlie felt more awkward and relatable and her facial expressions were great. I feel like they made her look too..."pretty?" "polished"? in the show? idk.
Edit to add: In the show she's now a sweet, naive, nervous wreck girlboss who needs Vaggie to bring her back to reality. In the pilot she's skeptical of Alastor and calls him "sketchy as fuck" to his face (but knows she could use the help), and she's now somehow more naive about his intentions in the show, it doesn't really make sense.
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Grumpy Pickle Rick
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I swear, these people are just immature retards.
They just can’t accept the fact that they are horrible people.
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I know that some people say that the animation in the actual show is much "cleaner" and more "consistent", but the pilot is definitely more expressive and fluid.
And I'd still argue the animation in the show isn't the greatest anyway. There are so many errors, with lines missing, spots being uncolored, and just many other issues. There's the infamous "Vaggie disappearing in the next frame in the first song", but there are also just many scenes where the error can be easily fixed or it took more effort to produce said error.
All they had to do was copy Vaggie from the first shot and place here in the next one. It took more time and effort to redraw here in the exact same pose.
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It doesn't help that by Hazbin being picked up by a studio, it was sourced to people who were more used to pretty grounded and normal character designs for episodic sitcoms like Bob's Burgers while Hazbin Hotel has a lot more going on visually in comparison.
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I swear this is a trend with both of Vivziepop's shows, the pilot is okay-ish and is more interesting than the actual show itself.
And both shows barley commit to the premise after the pilot (More so for Helluva boss than Hazbin Hotel)
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Hazbin at least is still related to the idea of redeeming sinners and stuff with the hotel and its residents with the tone of the actual show consistent with the drama and musical aspects of the pilot but doesn't have too much of the funny
Helluva Boss went from workplace comedy where occasionally the boss has to deal with some dipshit harassing him for sex who may be evil to a soap opera about the boss and said dipshit being a loving couple who are being oppressed by society and the mean wife who is just a misogynistic idea of an angry wife (like if Blitzo was a woman, I think everyone would see how misogynistic Stella's writing is).
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It's because the pilots are written by different people. We already know about the Kendraws situation, but two other writers were involved in the Hazbin Hotel pilot: Dave Capdevielle and Raymond Hernadez. And with the Helluva Boss pilot, Brandon Rodgers was the main writer.
We don't know for sure how Hazbin Hotel would fair if the original writers had stayed on, but we do know what we would have sort of gotten if Brandon had stayed. The three episodes he is the main writer for in season 1 are Murder Family, Spring Broken, and CHERUBS. These are are more similar to tone with the pilot, and would fit in a comedic episodic show that was initially advertised. The rest of the episodes in season 1 either have Viv as the main writer or sole writer, and the tone for them are much different than the ones that I mentioned with Brandon. They're more dramatic and serious, and are more in line with episodes that fit in a serialized show.
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Found another post about how the sinners kinda deserve to be in hell. Only one of the replies was really interesting.
“By my lofty moral standards, you (allegedly, by my own judgment) having a political position that I disagree with means that you will be doomed to spend your afterlife in a dimension of eternal torment. But for what it’s worth, I don’t think you should be slaughtered like a lamb, which would probably put that torment to an end depending on who you ask.”
How classy.
“By my lofty moral standards, you (allegedly, by my own judgment) having a political position that I disagree with means that you will be doomed to spend your afterlife in a dimension of eternal torment. But for what it’s worth, I don’t think you should be slaughtered like a lamb, which would probably put that torment to an end depending on who you ask.”
How classy.
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To be fair both these people are wrong since one takes the naive assumption that everyone deserves to go to Hell and the other doesn't even use evidence of actual innocent people that went to Hell.
Since the Hellverse is pretty fucked up given countless innocent people or people that are good but flawed are actively being killed by Demons paid by those who went to Hell. Even then there are Demons who also cause people to die.
Since reminder that a naive girl got killed by a demon for pointless online shipping discourse, a teenager got killed because they got in the way of a Demon's drug trafficking operation, and lots of teenagers were slaughtered relentlessly due to some petty bet between a Demon hitman service and succubi who were mind controlling people.
There's also how people could just be doing whatever they want in Hell because let's face it, if you lived a pious and strict life only to end up in Hell, wouldn't you want to unleash your carnal impulses since you have nothing left to lose.
The most important thing though about all of this is in Hazbin Hotel which is...
1. No one knows what gets you into Heaven
2. The exterminations existed because of the false idea of a uprising due to a retarded angel's paranoia despite having the resources to know otherwise, and letting the openly sadistic douchebag lead these cullings.
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We are winning the zoomers, comrades! Soon all shall know the evil of the homosexual demons!
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I think its more once the hype fo S1 died and people began looking over the series, they just started to realize how rushed and poorly written it was.
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I'm assuming this is being talked about because this section of some review is making the rounds lately.
As @Doctor of Autism said, I think the point is that once someone ends up in Hell, they inevitably shed their empathy and virtues since they're surrounded by other flawed people who already did so, plus a ton of murderers, rapists, and others who already who completely awful before they ended up in Hell. But the show doesn't show it.
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I just find this entire situation ironic, isn't "forgiveness" like a core tenet of Christianity? they're fans of a show that very obviously tries to be anti-christian despite the fact that the morals it pushes are rooted in Christian ideology. It's like the perfect microcosm of everything wrong with this show and it's fans.
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Did this person sleep through #MeToo and Democrats seeing any police-related death of a black person as an act of racism?
Back to the subject at hand, others have stated the show has made no effort at hinting characters want to better themselves and not be a slave to their vices. Even in the pilot, Charlie was laughed at by her own subjects. It's hard not to sympathize with them when they don't give a shit about themselves or others #AdamDidNothingWrong
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Well, it seems like a majority of fans are leftists and SJWs. The kind who will dig for dirt on you if they hate what you’re saying because forgiveness is not allowed. You can never grow as a person, once you say or believe something bad, that’s it, you’re evil forever. Speaking of which…
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Grumpy Pickle Rick
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Sometimes, I can’t tell if these people are retarded, crazy or both.