Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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I found out my one of my best friends is transitioning this past weekend. He does not know I know, but I know.
Jesus, that's an absolute nightmare. It just goes to show how troonery is so selfish and all-destroying. You had a nice friend group with people you thought you could rely on, and this will inevitably mess it up. Hopefully you and the other three will be fine and keep being friends, but things will never be the same regardless after your troon friend comes out. I'm sorry.
 
Well, it happened again. Not a very close friend but someone who's been in and out of my old high school friend circle for quite some time. I learned about it in our group chat a few days ago. He posted that he was diagnosed with gender dysphoria back in November of last year and he's been transitioning ever since. He made it a point to say "due to current policy I am at risk of being kicked out of [military branch]". This was all news to me. He wasn't around too much due to moving out of state and military stuff. He never seemed to be interested in any of the transgender ideology when we used to actually hang out. Even crazier is the fact that I always thought he was more down to earth/center right politically compared to my other friends. I'm the only person in the group chat that chose not to say anything or acknowledge it. I can't lie to myself and agree with what he's doing, so I guess my silence may send a message to him.

I do know he was dealing with some depression after being in the military for awhile. I also know his parents divorced when he was young. As far as I know he never had a girlfriend or anything. Just a normal in-shape dude that did sports and liked playing videogames. It's always crazy how these people will fuck up everything around them just to chase the fantasy of being the opposite sex. Potentially ruining your military career, isolating your family and friends, making every situation with you awkward and completely unreal. That's the thing I hate the most about it all. The fact that he's probably going to pop in and hangout and make things so fucking awkward. I absolutely hate when people do this performative shit, being constantly afraid to use the wrong name or pronoun. I hate when people just play along. I really thought that this transgender shit was finally circling the drain. But at this point I think we'll always be stuck with this shit.

After learning about all of this I had a conversation with Mrs. Booze about it. She's very much "live and let be" about the transgender stuff but thankfully respects my opinion on it all. I explained that what I'm feeling is that weird surface melancholy whenever someone you don't know super well dies. You're upset but not because your best friend died. You're upset because someone actually close to you may die. A part of me feels like it's only a matter of time until an actual close friend goes down this spiral. I don't believe I can continue being their friend because I just simply won't lie to myself. What an absolutely evil vile thing. I've always been against transgenderism because I always viewed it as "giving up" and becoming a different person instead of fixing who you are. Like men? Just be fucking gay. Be an effeminate man. Be a masculine woman. I really don't give a shit but this whole "killing your old self" shit gives me nightmarish vibes that I just cannot sit and agree with. I will remove you from my life. It is as simple as that.
 
It’s an absolutely satanic and loathsome phenomenon due to some of the things @Blue Booze points out.

One of the most fundamental things in any religion or faith, is truth. Truth to oneself and fellow man.

(Shit, all religions have “don’t lie yo!” As some kind of basic commandment. Satan is known as the father of lies. Many religions have entire rituals and schools devoted to uncovering the fundamental truth to existence and the universe.)

When you troon out or embrace troonery, you’re not just living a lie, you’re also expecting and encouraging others to lie and join you in dishonesty.

“Live and let live” has its place, but not when it comes to troons.
 
I always viewed it as "giving up" and becoming a different person instead of fixing who you are. Like men? Just be fucking gay. Be an effeminate man. Be a masculine woman. I really don't give a shit but this whole "killing your old self" shit gives me nightmarish vibes that I just cannot sit and agree with.
It's a mind virus that appeals to people in vulnerable positions: because they're a lonely autist, because they're a pervert, because they're in a bad depressive low, etc. Same reason people join cults. It doesn't help if you're in a friend group/environment that promotes it or that your therapist is feeding you weird lines.

The line of thought that GNC and non-straight people fall prey to it because they see it as a way of being normal are actually fringe cases of trooning out. Most of the people that troon out aren't GNC--that's part of why they troon out. Yes, there is always a level of feeling like losers. But "it'll be okay to wear glitter nail polish finally!" is not it. People who want to dress androgynous like doing so because it's androgynous. Taking away the aspect of them being their natal sex ruins the appeal for them. Becoming another person entirely is the appeal of transing. A lot of artsy people who would be GNC overlap with the other things that make you vulnerable to transing like as I said being a melancholic personality, wanting favor in the victim stack, being lonely and buying in to the found family schtick. But it's not the real reason. When you see someone you inevitably troons out start playing around with being "GNC" they're not doing so for fashion reasons, they're testing the waters before the inevitable announcement is made. They already fell prey to the mind virus.
 
Becoming another person entirely is the appeal of transing.
I absolutely agree with all your points but this one especially resonates with me. It seems like after graduating high school he really didn't know who the fuck he was at the end of the day. Joining the military just seemed to be a thing he did just to look like he was doing something. It's like instead of getting a job and taking the time to figure things out and build his life he just needed to do something. Needed to have a purpose right then and there. Moved out of state and had the military tell him what to do. It was a fix that just didn't work. I feel so fucking bad for the guy because what he needs is some fucking time to sit and think, not jump right into the transgender death cult right after the slog of multiple years of military duty.
 
“Live and let live” has its place, but not when it comes to troons.
Live and let live only works if the other person is willing to live and let live too. Troons do not, will not and cannot leave other people alone. They love to pull the 'why are you so obsessed with us existing' line, all while they're employing every fucking means imaginable to spread their influence and force other people into their insanity. The fundamental flaw of transgenderism as a psychological therapy (for lack of better words, I mean in the sense of ensuring the mental wellbeing of its practitioners) is that it requires altering the perception of other people, rather than altering your own perspective. It's also trying to alter the perception of something that is a fundamental truth and can be easily observed with a functioning pair of eyeballs.

The quest to pass has two means. One is they emulate the opposite sex so effectively that no one notices. Two is that they employ psychological warfare to mind fuck people into ignoring basic reality. Both are inevitably doomed to failure, as no amount of surgery can make a man into a woman and no amount mental gymnastics can make someone see a woman instead of a man.

In short, troons need YOU to change. It's an ideology of aggression that concerns itself with the thoughts of other people.
 
I find it funny/crazy as hell that the cult troon's primary partner (cult troon is poly) is a transmasc fatty whos responsible for animating his retarded project. Yet on his alt where hes following the cult people and talking about how he wishes people loved him and all that shit (again hes in a fucking relationship), she isn't following him. I doubt she knows he even has an alt.
I wonder what would happen if I sent it to her.
Then again, she's a retarded handmaiden. But at the same time, this guy is known for being a manipulative abusive unstable piece of shit toward the women apart of his life where he will target vulnerable people in particular so that when they speak out against him to his friends, he can pull the good ol "they are mentally ill" card and downplaying what happened.

I guess part of me is butthurt ngl. Why do women do this to themselves, why do they associate with these retarded men? Yet never give the same grace toward other women. Meanwhile those same women would be a much more positive influence for them if they'd just be less hateful. I don't know. I'm just lonely. I know I am not missing out when it comes to these people, but I just wish more nerdier women would be more female-centric than faghags and handmaidens.
This spoke to me on such a personal level. HRT has been a fucking disaster to nerdy women. Usually I'm of the opinion they're just tomboys or maybe lesbian in extreme cases. But no, can't be a girl who enjoys boyish things--you must be a man trapped in a lady body!

I had this shit attempted on me by some asshole self hating woman months back. I actually turned it around on her by saying "I'm not obsessed with labels, and frankly if you think only men can enjoy *insert media* then that tells me alot about you."

I think I may have sent her into a tizzy cuz she posted that she was going to the mental ward the day after. Lmao

Don't try to put people into a box, trannies. Your kind should know that.

It was Transformers in case you wanted to know but thats besides the point of my parable



I just wanna hang with non-pozzed geek girls who don't hate their feminity*sigh*
 
I absolutely agree with all your points but this one especially resonates with me. It seems like after graduating high school he really didn't know who the fuck he was at the end of the day. Joining the military just seemed to be a thing he did just to look like he was doing something. It's like instead of getting a job and taking the time to figure things out and build his life he just needed to do something. Needed to have a purpose right then and there. Moved out of state and had the military tell him what to do. It was a fix that just didn't work. I feel so fucking bad for the guy because what he needs is some fucking time to sit and think, not jump right into the transgender death cult right after the slog of multiple years of military duty.
It provides structure and meaning for people who can’t create it for themselves in healthier ways. Not only is it a sorta-kinda fresh start, people they know aren’t supposed to bring up anything that happened when they were “deadname.” I can see how that would be extra appealing for young people who spent too much time online documenting their cringiest moments.

And it provides a blueprint “I need to get two therapy letters for this, take this drug for x amount of years before having this surgery, start voice-training…” It’s never enough obviously, they get to the end of the major list and they start obsessing over the size of their clavicles or canthal tilt or whatever the fuck else. Also comes with a built-in community and belief system and perhaps most importantly, a common enemy.
 
A former classmate of mine that became one of the only male nonbinaries I have encountered posted a life update on his Facebook yesterday for Trans Visibility Day. He literally looks exactly the same as he did in high school, only with longer hair and a dress. He announced that he's now in a T4T polycule with two trans women (in the Deep South, no less). He also started using estrogen (despite looking and acting effeminate and barely growing facial hair in high school). Would not be shocked if he doubles down to getting a tit job or stating that he's actually a trans woman in the coming year. Shame.
 
It was Transformers in case you wanted to know but thats besides the point of my parable
Unless I've seen you at the store I worked at, don't worry fam. There's other women out there who love transformers, who aren't pozzed. This girl came in who had all kind of Transformers merch before, asked her about it and she seemed pretty passionate about the franchise. It was pretty cool, I don't really see much love for transformers nowadays- let alone by a girl, but fans do exist.
 
One of the most fundamental things in any religion or faith, is truth. Truth to oneself and fellow man.
He of course isn't a religious guy at all. None of our friend group is now that I think about it. I was even raised non religious but even I appreciate a lot of things from let's say Christianity. I get along with Christians pretty well because I'm able to see the good things associated with it and I appreciate the gaurd rails it sets up. Gaurd rails that probably would have helped guide him through this situation.

He announced that he's now in a T4T polycule with two trans women (in the Deep South, no less).
We once got a kitten from a polycule in a slight southern state. Small rust belt town and their house was the only one with a rainbow flag. Social survival skill 0/10. Too lazy or poor to move into a rainbow city I guess. I was very blindsided when we went to pick it up. The house was a mess too. So I like to think we saved that kitten from stepping in it's own shit and piss.
 
For guys like this, being told you'll be loved and accepted for who you are might as well be crack.
And it's such a shame because there are women who go for the autistic type, especially in academia and more nerdy professions. Hell, I know women who look for single nerds at conferences, because they want someone with uncommon interests much like themselves - they can deal with the autism, half of academia is autistic anyway, and plenty of women in very specialised professions don't want children or live an unconventional life anyway. If these men would just hold on until they're 25+ and more settled in a life like that, they can find someone who accepts them.
 
I've read this thread for a few years now but didn't expect to actually make a post here. But then yesterday, an online friend of mine "came out" as non-binary. I haven't "lost" him, but I'm just sad because he has all the cliched shit going on. He was traumatically dumped last year, with some on and off regrouping and rebreaking. He's been packed to the gills with anti-depression meds ever since. He has a history of self-harming and has started up again. Autistic NEET on the Internet all day long. Just depresses me.
 
Just found out that one of my colleagues trooned out. Last week he was still talking in his deep ass voice and now he enters the calls putting on this faggoty voice that trannies use. I was confused as fuck until my other colleague asked him about his name change. Just why? He wasn't even that ugly for a man. Fuck this guy for ruining my workspace.
Just wait till he starts acting like a pervert at work, then get his ass fired. The fewer of these sex-pests around the better
 
It provides structure and meaning for people who can’t create it for themselves in healthier ways. Not only is it a sorta-kinda fresh start, people they know aren’t supposed to bring up anything that happened when they were “deadname.” I can see how that would be extra appealing for young people who spent too much time online documenting their cringiest moments.

And it provides a blueprint “I need to get two therapy letters for this, take this drug for x amount of years before having this surgery, start voice-training…” It’s never enough obviously, they get to the end of the major list and they start obsessing over the size of their clavicles or canthal tilt or whatever the fuck else. Also comes with a built-in community and belief system and perhaps most importantly, a common enemy.
This is the reason why when Christians warned about removing religion from society we were on a slippery slope to degeneracy, and they're 100% correct.

That being said, I'm not religious by default. Used to be a militant atheist during my early college days, but now am an agnostic type that's sympathetic towards Christianity.

My mother and father were Christians (first gen immigrants) so I grew up tangentially around religious doctrine, and I think that shit is what saved me from turning into a retarded gender ideological leftist. The reason why people are looking for "meaning" in life is because activist movements, academia, and well, insert your favorite villain here (Communists, Jews, etc) have helped to accelerate the breakdown of Western society. Leftists think being more secular automatically makes you smarter, but considering how the highest rate of mental illness are in those who are predominantly leftist, and the farther left you go the more insane they are, goes to show that no, removing religiosity from society did nothing because *nothing was replaced with it, leaving a giant fucking void for something to take its place*, and something eventually came in, and has lowered the collective IQ of all of society.

Enter: LGBTBBQ troon/race/gender retardation. It gives these mentally ill people a new lease in life. Something to "fight" for. The trans rights movement is especially the most dangerous of these movements, because it actively harms the people it affects, and mentally ill easily impressionable young men and women are far more prone to falling for the siren song of salvation through transitioning. It masquerades itself as a human rights movement, but my response to that is, if trans rights is human rights, perhaps trans people should start acting more human, then?

So you can see if you have half a brain from your militant atheist days about how religious cults operate, you can easily see gender identity extremism is just the left wing version of that. Same dogma, same retardation, and just like Christianity did in the 60s-80s, has the backing of major institutions.

That's why a lot of us are ex-leftists/ex-Democrats. We watched as the slippery slope no longer was a fallacy as more and more people fell into this harmful cult.

I look back at the kinda shit I had preached to me and think "Huh, maybe those boomers were right." Anyone who believes we're better off as a society today over the shit we have before never had a chance to see what society looked like before this retardation became mainstream.
 
Oh man, I was such an annoying atheist. I cringe looking back on it now. I mean, I’m still annoying, and I’m still an atheist, but not as bad as I was. Watching atheists a) defend Islam while shitting on Christianity lololol and b) spin a whole fucked up cult out of fat air has been crazy to watch. How do they not see it’s the same thing? They’re literally the ones burning Harry Potter books now! 😂
 
I was debating on whether I would post about this, but I'm still following the ex of a former friend on social media and she's been on a fucking spiral for the last two years. She had a quickie citizenship marriage to some guy from Brazil last June and she posted last week that he's transitioning. I feel bad, dude clearly was a deviant and used her for a green card and now she's stuck with this mistake.
 
Just wait till he starts acting like a pervert at work, then get his ass fired. The fewer of these sex-pests around the better
>Get harassed by tranny
>Complain about it
>End up getting fired for discrimination against le brave stunning woman


I'm just going to turn the other way if I ever meet him in the restroom (and check for hidden cameras). Maybe wear a Harry Potter t-shirt. Things the fucker can't use against me.
At least I get to work from home. Still have to listen to his disgusting tranny voice in the meetings though.
 
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