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https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-848629 Economic officials in Israel are in complete shock over the Trump administration's decision to impose a 17% tariff on Israel. "We are in shock. We were sure that the decision to completely cancel tariffs on imports from the U.S. would prevent this move. But it didn't happen." An official said: "Its going to be hard, but we will work to change the decision. The decision is unjustified"
is there somebody more specific than "an official"?
not being bitchy, but I'm wondering if we can get a bead on if it's The Subsecretary Assistant To The Vice Chamberman's Page or Head Of Tariff International Stuff or a mistranslation of some Professional Expert title
 
Other countries have been stealing our industries for far to long with tariffs and I'm honestly sick of it. Remember America used to be the number 1 exporter on cars with the largest manufacturing industry for vehicles in the world, until countries decided to leverage exorbitant tariffs to protect their own automobile industries, then our manufacturers figured out it'd be better to just move production to said countries instead of eating a ridiculous 100%+ tariff. This is why the rust belt exists
I've lived in the rust belt my whole life. I grew up walking past massive abandoned factory complexes and crumbling public spaces. And I have lived with an ever growing property tax burden as our industrial tax base has vanished.
At this point I don't give a shit if there is a risk Trump's plan ends up not working. I am just glad someone finally trying to DO SOMETHING to turn the tide. And if it doesn't work at least we get to see those faggot canadians get wrecked.

People are so fucking worried the prices of Funko-Pops and Gayman GPU's might go up 30% they would rather just keep living with status quo of our steady decline. The rest of doom posters here are likely europoors or members of the laptop class.
 
When is Trump going to get around to addressing the amount of undocumented Kiwis
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its a good thing they are illiterate because with such a numerical disparity, the second they were to become aware they would overrun us and overthrow us

for real though how many of those are just straight up Feds or atleast Fed interns?
A good chunk of those are probably people like me who only login from a single device.
 
No, they extract wealth from the manufacturing countries lol. Banks, law and consultancies (even though consultancies are basically a scam) produce the conditions for sub 5% interest rate loans, which help everyone deploy what is esentially free money, and extract from whatever wealth growth occurs nationally and abroad. I don't think you get how much more fucked the average American would be if they were like people in Europe or Asia, following your line of thinking.
You must be a finance Vampire.
 
You will never convince these retards that going back to Industrial Revolution tier economics isn't a viable strategy for the 21st century. Once someone dares to call it a recession, they'll just blame anyone except Trump for failing to enact his policy of supporting American businesses.
>Industrial Revolution tier
>we need more industry
>for some reason the laws of economics just changed
If it doesn't work, then why does everyone else do it?
 
US "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse for the same reason Germany "stopped" being a manufacturing powerhouse, it just moved to less capital intensive, higher margin buisnesses that depend on R&D (like software, finance, etc etc). It's not like the US does not manufacture, it's just that ,because in manufacturing everything is a race to the bottom, having a manufacturing-dominated economy is incompatible with high salaries, unless, of course, you'd also like to artificially rise those salaries through either agressive trans-company collective negotiation or stupid high protections that force profit margins to be even lower. Playing in industries that are not races to the bottom allow for uncapped growths for capital owners while mantaing higher wages for workers without much goverment intervention. This is also why China stopped being number one on manufacturing shitty goods like clothes, they are also trying to switch to a services-heavy economy, just through a more direct intervention rather than pure market forces.
Germany remained a manufacturing powerhouse until a decade ago, when they decided to kneecap their supply chains and input costs with Net Zero. It didn't get to be the engine of Europe by paying the lowest wages in Europe. America prior to the implementation of GATT and other free trade agreements following WWII was also a manufacturing powerhouse, not because of its cheap labor, but because of its investment, factor production, and technological endowment, during a time when the US maintained the highest tariffs in the developed world while maintaining the highest rate of economic growth. The idea that "a manufacturing-dominated economy is incompatible with high salaries" is non-congruent with history. Even China doesn't compete on labor costs anymore, otherwise SEA or India would be the world factory now, they compete on a highly developed manufacturing apparatus, similar to what the US once had.
 
And now consider that the US has the 5th highest median salary in the world, only behind meme states like Luxenburg. The world is omegafucked in general, the US is still getting a better deal despite everything.
How much of that number is that dragged upward by a handful of absurd outlier salaries in the coastal regions, like the mega-autist programmers who work for Google, Apple, etc, while the vast majority of the country goes deeper into credit card debt to pay for groceries and utilities, because $50k/yr doesn't go anywhere nearly as far as it used to, even in flyover country?

The service industry doesn't mean shit when they outsource the service industries too. The number of times I've been scolded about how manufacturing and proper labor's demise was "actually a good thing(tm)" and yet we are no better for it and the faggot coders who turned their nose up at me now are being replaced by bots after also being replaced by literally anyone else. Service industries suck, are easily outsourced, and aren't a solution.
Witness the rise of poojeets and their gross incompetence.
 
I've lived in the rust belt my whole life. I grew up walking past massive abandoned factory complexes and crumbling public spaces. And I have lived with an ever growing property tax burden as our industrial tax base has vanished.
At this point I don't give a shit if there is a risk Trump's plan ends up not working. I am just glad someone finally trying to DO SOMETHING to turn the tide. And if it doesn't work at least we get to see those faggot canadians get wrecked.
This. After seeing all the tariffs countries were implementing against us that I didn't know about- Fuck Em. You really think the world can take on the US after we spent an entire century disarming you faggots, good luck. These tariffs are 1000% deserved and earned.

They WILL create growth for the US because any of these lesser countries taxing us 50%+ will immediately call Trump tomorrow to negotiate. He'll have exclusive trade deals by tomorrow. Go ahead, keep selling faggots. Plummet the stocks. Feed the Bull Economy.
 
https://www.propublica.org/article/glenmark-pharmaceuticals-recalls-fda-inspection | https://archive.ph/Jdlzd
I think this was posted somewhere here before. But basically, indians shouldn't be allowed to make anything
To be sorta fair, the FDA is incredibly strict about good manufacturing practices (GMPs). There are European pharmaceutical companies that can't sell in the US because their facilities don't pass FDA inspections. US GMPs focus a lot more on risk while EU GMPs focus on, frankly, doing a shitload of paperwork and following established protocols and guidelines. EU inspectors also operate on a schedule while US inspectors show up unannounced, and often spend more time going after facilities that fuck up.

Aurobindo is a lot more reliable than Glenmark. Either way, India has a long way to go in terms of uniform GMPs.
 
People on Twitter are apparently saying that some of the tariff numbers don't match up and or some of these countries don't have tariffs on the US at all, I don't care enough about this to check all of them


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Y'know what's funny? I don't even give a shit anymore if the numbers match. I've heard practically every other country in the world shit on us for decades while we foot the bill for all sorts of things for them. Fuck 'em all. Crank them tariffs! Remind 'em who's really in charge.
 
People on Twitter are apparently saying that some of the tariff numbers don't match up and or some of these countries don't have tariffs on the US at all, I don't care enough about this to check all of them


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These tariffs don't just take into account their "tariff rates". Some of these countries flat out don't accept some of our products (beef in Australia). Many of them have VAT (a tax) directly on all "value added" to every company including US companies. Some times permitting takes years. Some of them (like China) use government banks to heavily subsidize their industry (something I want the US to do). China also keeps their currency cheap compared to the dollar. Making further investment in China easier. China, India, Vietnam, Indonesia also don't follow any of the climate accords. Yet America pays for all of these climate agreements. There are many things besides a bill that says "this is the tariff I'm charging US goods" that makes our goods less competitive. These Tariffs take these things into account.
 
This. After seeing all the tariffs countries were implementing against us that I didn't know about- Fuck Em. You really think the world can take on the US after we spent an entire century disarming you faggots, good luck. These tariffs are 1000% deserved and earned.

They WILL create growth for the US because any of these lesser countries taxing us 50%+ will immediately call Trump tomorrow to negotiate. He'll have exclusive trade deals by tomorrow. Go ahead, keep selling faggots. Plummet the stocks. Feed the Bull Economy.
That's my hope (give me your rainbows), that this will bring most of these countries to the negotiating table and result in freer trade in the long run. I don't buy the arguments that tariffs are actually good economic policy.
 
Y'know what's funny? I don't even give a shit anymore if the numbers match. I've heard practically every other country in the world shit on us for decades while we foot the bill for all sorts of things for them. Fuck 'em all. Crank them tariffs! Remind 'em who's really in charge.
"Tariffs are bad, they haven't been used since the Age of Sail, they don't work, no one uses them anymore, and they're always bad for the economy."
Trump has a chart
"Okay every other country uses tariffs and uses them specifically against the US but he's lying since this very specific definition I'm using means these countries only have a 33.33% tariff on US goods and not 90% like Trump said."

These people beclown themselves every day and I'm here for it.
 
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