US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Buck Broken Chimp]

why is Trump tariffing computer hardware ? It's not like there are tons of made in America alternatives to the 5090 that are made in America waiting to be given a chance.

 

[MrJokerRager]

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i like many of the things trump has done and i'm not opposed to tariffs but today was fucking retarded

Fuck those penguin niggers.

 

[mindlessobserver]

>vote for trump to save America
>cheer when the leading benchmark for the state of the US economy (the stock market) dumps
I understand trusting the plan and thinking that in two more weeks it'll be back, but if you eagerly wish for the retirement accounts and net worth of hard working Americans to be wiped out just to own the jews or whatever you are a fucking idiot.

The stock market is not the US economy.

 

[Monk Amen]

why is Trump tariffing computer hardware ? It's not like there are tons of made in America alternatives to the 5090 that are made in America waiting to be given a chance.

The idea is to bring especially core tech component manufacturing to the US

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Get some culture.

that guy's a real ignoranimus.

leading benchmark for the state of the US economy (the stock market)

are you only casually retarded, or do you do this professionally?

 

[gagabobo1997]

why is Trump tariffing computer hardware ? It's not like there are tons of made in America alternatives to the 5090 that are made in America waiting to be given a chance.

because he's retarded

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

>vote for trump to save America
>cheer when the leading benchmark for the state of the US economy (the stock market) dumps
I understand trusting the plan and thinking that in two more weeks it'll be back, but if you eagerly wish for the retirement accounts and net worth of hard working Americans to be wiped out just to own the jews or whatever you are a fucking idiot.

how many times do i have to post this



gdp is a spook, a country's GDP doesn't matter when most of the people in it are being fucked over by the elite

 

[Daily Happenings]

why is Trump tariffing computer hardware ? It's not like there are tons of made in America alternatives to the 5090 that are made in America waiting to be given a chance.

Because having chip manufacturing, the entire backbone of your economy, almost entirely built in a country the bankers will eventually sell to China only makes sense if you're Paul Krugman.

 

[gagabobo1997]

GDP doesn't matter when most of the people in it are being fucked over by the elite

I agree, but that same elite are the ones running this administration

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I agree, but that same elite are the ones running this administration

so the elites, the only ones who benefit from the stock market in any appreciable way, are intentionally tanking the stock market, to... uh, what exactly? are you stupid? do you not know what tariffs are, or what the purpose of them is? do you not see the massive tariffs a bunch of countries have on US goods to protect their local economies? or how many countries have caved already to the pressure of US tariffs? you have to just be intentionally being obtuse at this point.

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

Because having chip manufacturing, the entire backbone of your economy, almost entirely built in a country the bankers will eventually sell to China only makes sense if you're Paul Krugman.

Again Biden tried to address this with the chips act and Trump is doing nothing else.

Semiconductor manufacturing is going to require subsidies I know that's not the cool populist opinion but it's true. Do you have any idea how much the CCP spent on semiconductor manufacturing ? How much Taiwan spends on TSMC ?

 

[Mister Fister]

so the elites, the only ones who benefit from the stock market in any appreciable way, are intentionally tanking the stock market, to... uh, what exactly? are you stupid? do you not know what tariffs are, or what the purpose of them is? do you not see the massive tariffs a bunch of countries have on US goods to protect their local economies? or how many countries have caved already to the pressure of US tariffs? you have to just be intentionally being obtuse at this point.

WILD CARD BITCHES!

 

[gagabobo1997]

he only ones who benefit from the stock market in any appreciable way

you've got to be a retard if you think elites are the ONLY ones who benefit from the stock market going up. basically a fourth of the stock market is owned by retail investors. millions of Americans have retirement accounts and 401ks that rely on the stock market. mega firms make money regardless.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

you've got to be a retard if you think elites are the ONLY ones who benefit from the stock market going up. basically a fourth of the stock market is owned by retail investors. mega firms make money regardless.

and they all own a bunch of fake money that has no appreciable value the second the elites decide that you shouldn't be allowed to trade it. do you not remember the GME thing that was discussed just a few pages back? it's not a system rigged in your favor, it's entirely at the favor of these same elites.

you are not allowed to become ultrawealthy on the stock market because that kind of ability would jeopardize the elite's power monopoly. for someone who believes the elites control things you're not thinking this through very deeply.

the country would be far better off if the elites did not HAVE a fake money financial system where they can steal the money of the average retail investor who gets fucked while the megacorps make money regardless, as you just said. you are failing to see the forest for the trees, and you'd rather have the system you know continue on forever even if it's fucked and broken than go through a period of time required to fix it where things might suck a little. grow a pair.

most people in the millennial generation and onward are never even going to see their own retirement benefits, and all that money doesn't mean jack fucking shit if the economy continues to shit its pants any time someone wants to fuck with the US a little, or any time the just in time service economy is fucked up for even a week. if you relied on a gambling strategy to generate your retirement, then you're fucked. if you went with a super safe megacorp approved bet on the market, you're fine, as you said before. the megacorps always make money. this argument is bad, and you should've thought it through for longer before making these replies.

 

[gagabobo1997]

do you not see the massive tariffs a bunch of countries have on US goods to protect their local economies?

Which massive tariffs? The 10% that an island only inhabited by penguins put on us?
I'm not opposed to tariffs, I think they are great when used selectively and when they are well thought out. Blanket tariffing every fucking country on the planet using numbers they were given by chatGPT is simply 85 iq retardation.

do you not remember the GME thing that was discussed just a few pages back?

Fidelity, afaik, never halted trading on GME.

you are not allowed to become ultrawealthy on the stock market

maybe most Americans don't want to become ultrawealthy by gambling on stocks and just don't want their retirement to be blown away because of retarded policy choices

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

I am going to check the anti elite populist larp.

The rich overwhelmingly benefit from tarrifs. If you own the capital needed to produce the manfuactured goods needed to replace tarrif goods and you can afford the labor to work this means of production. Then you are likely very rich.

This ignores the obvious fact a rich person just isn't hurt as bad by a tarrif. A guy who makes millions a minute wouldn't notice a 15% gpu tarrif but a working man living paycheck to paycheck would.

I just don't get why people here are so anti subsidy with things like the chips act but pro tariff which everyone agrees are basically just worst subsidies.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

maybe most Americans don't want to become ultrawealthy by gambling on stocks and just don't want their retirement to be blown away because of retarded policy choices

if you wouldn't take that money to the casino and be okay with losing it, you shouldn't be putting it in the stock market without being okay with losing it. it's betting. it's gambling. you are going into it knowing that there is a chance that you cannot predict the size of that you WILL lose everything.

i'm sorry that people were duped into the system, and it's never going to get better if we just leave this wound to fester.

 

[Vibralldo]

If Trump fucks the economy then the dems will sweep 2028 and then everything is fucked everywhere forever because there's no way Europe is voting their way out of migrant pedophile gangs

 

[CyrusHowler]

The most important thing that happened in Wisconsin.

 

[Waifu Denier]

you've got to be a retard if you think elites are the ONLY ones who benefit from the stock market going up. basically a fourth of the stock market is owned by retail investors. millions of Americans have retirement accounts and 401ks that rely on the stock market. mega firms make money regardless.

The lower 50% of Americans are barely affected by the gyrations of the stock market because they lack the savings to actually invest substantially. There is a reason a vast portion of the population has a negative net worth. They don't care about the S&P dropping 10%, they care about wage depression and offshoring.