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come the fuck on dude, what a dishonest attempt at an argument.

no, depreciation of physical assets is not the same as putting your money into a machine that could literally spit out 5 dollars when you put in 6000. gambling is not the same thing as depreciation.

If your idea of the stock market is retarded wall street bets with leveraged trades and puts/calls to the walls, yeah you're right, but buy and hold has been a long term winning strategy for decades. Individual stocks are a bit riskier than doing a spread using an index, but there is concrete money to be had their of you just sit on it. The line is jagged, but it trends upward, faster than inflation too! The American empire isn't dead yet, this is all but a hiccup.
 
Except that you can get almost every type of European cheese except for young unpasteurized cheese in the US. The reverse is not true; American cheesemakers can't sell their products in Europe because it's illegal sell many cheeses in Europe if they weren't made in certain parts of it.
PDOs only apply to labeling afaik, if anything its akin to trademarks (which we have in America). An American could make something the exact same as Champagne and sell it in Europe, they would just have to call it sparkling wine or something.
 
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Again Biden tried to address this with the chips act and Trump is doing nothing else.

Semiconductor manufacturing is going to require subsidies I know that's not the cool populist opinion but it's true. Do you have any idea how much the CCP spent on semiconductor manufacturing ? How much Taiwan spends on TSMC ?
That’s because the chips act didn’t fucking work because at the end of the day they didn’t have to open factories for real to get any fucking benefits because as it turns out the only thing companies really care about is actual loss and incentives don’t do jack shit retard.
 
Money is money is money. If I buy $5K worth of ammo and it drops in value $4K, I have $1K left. If I buy a house for $5K and it drops in value $4K I have $1K left. If I buy a mutual fund for $5K and it drops in value $4K I have $1K left. You're trying to argue that this $1K is better than that $1K, or the other $1K. This is a ridiculous argument.
you're a moron and there's no helping you. you cannot conceive that physical items have a value beyond the monetary for some reason. do you think people stockpile ammo and canned food to sell them? no, of course not, they stockpile it to have it ready in case of them needing to use it. my point was and continues to be that it is retarded to compare physical commodities which have value other than money to stock trading, which is always done to avoid the direct analogy to gambling, which is you put money into a system that may or may not give you a return, and you hope. if you go with the safe best you'll win very low amounts, but its still technically a gamble because as far as you know, there may be new legislation that fucked up something you bet on.

that's why it's supposed to be illegal for lawmakers to trade stocks, because they can sell on things they know are about to get fucked, or influence their own stock holdings to benefit themselves through legislation, but all that shows you that it's gambling. they're supposed to be not allowed to rig the casino, even though pelosi is proof they do it anyway.

don't gamble if you can't afford to lose.
 
you cannot conceive that physical items have a value beyond the monetary for some reason.
Hate to break it to you, but they don't. Especially when it comes to investing - a very necessary human activity.
do you think people stockpile ammo and canned food to sell them? no, of course not, they stockpile it to have it ready in case of them needing to use it.
These aren't investments, moron - they're insurance policies.
 
do you think people stockpile ammo and canned food to sell them? no, of course not, they stockpile it to have it ready in case of them needing to use it.
Then why even compare it to the stock market?
If you think people should be investing in guns, ammo, and canned food rather than bet on the continuing prosperity of the US economy, then it doesn't sound like you have a very positive outlook on the direction of the USA. Just say that people should buy guns instead of stocks because they'll need to kill their neighbor for food after Trump annihilates the economy if that is what you really think.
 
It's funny that people either forgot or are choosing not to remember the whole GameStop fiasco and still think stonks are really worth a damn when places like Robin Hood were blatantly trying to rig it for the globohomo rich fucks while fucking over the little guy, even if the little guys were shitposting IRL with money.
 
Hate to break it to you, but they don't. Especially when it comes to investing - a very necessary human activity.

These aren't investments, moron - they're insurance policies.
bullets don't have value beyond the monetary? okay, you're just a fucking idiot.

it brings me great joy to see you stock market gamblers seething.
 
It's funny that people either forgot or are choosing not to remember the whole GameStop fiasco and still think stonks are really worth a damn when places like Robin Hood were blatantly trying to rig it for the globohomo rich fucks while fucking over the little guy, even if the little guys were shitposting IRL with money.
gamestop never had a chance at hurting globohomo mega firms and unironically robin hood shutting it down probably stopped a bunch of retarded retail investors from losing money buying the top of a pump and dump.
Fidelity did not halt trading and they are one of the largest brokerages for retail investors.
 
Then why even compare it to the stock market?
If you think people should be investing in guns, ammo, and canned food rather than bet on the continuing prosperity of the US economy, then it doesn't sound like you have a very positive outlook on the direction of the USA. Just say that people should buy guns instead of stocks because they'll need to kill their neighbor for food after Trump annihilates the economy if that is what you really think.
i didn't, the other guy did by bringing up that "physical investments", aka fucking buying a thing in real life, were identical to stock investments, as if your items magically vanish when the value goes down the way your money vanished when stock values drop. i just pointed out that it was a bad comparison. you guys are really bad at this, please consider moving to canada and applying for MAID.
 
Convinced someone on Trump's team does things like the Heard & McDonald Islands tariff on purpose specifically as a lightningrod for media and retards to obsess over
Trump could accidentally drop a nuke on Miami and you retards would claim its actually 150iq 5d chess
i didn't, the other guy did by bringing up that "physical investments", aka fucking buying a thing in real life, were identical to stock investments, as if your items magically vanish when the value goes down the way your money vanished when stock values drop. i just pointed out that it was a bad comparison. you guys are really bad at this, please consider moving to canada and applying for MAID.
You are genuinely retarded. Buying Gold as an investment is Identical to buying stocks as an investment, just with generally lower liquidity and lower volatility. Your ownership position in the company doesn't magically vanish either when the value goes down.
When the price of Gold drops, your value in USD drops. Your total amount of Gold owned doesn't drop though.
When the price of NVDA drops, your value in USD drops. Your total amount of shares owned doesn't drop though.
 
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