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Netizennameless said:
Normal people made millions off of GME. They did the math and realized it was being nakedly shorted and exploited the hell out of it.

A naked short is an illegal act where someone loans out shares that don't exist.

A short trade is a loan of shares, not money. Those borrowed shares are immediately sold for cash, and the borrower must repay the loan in shares. The bet is the price will fall and the shares can be bought back for cheaper. The borrower pockets the difference.

If the price of the shares go up, the lender can issue a margin call. Which is to demand the shares be immediately returned.

in a short squeeze, there are more shares shorted than exist in the market. If lenders start issuing margin calls, the borrower has no choice but to buy the shares on the market for whatever price they can get it. If a ton of people hold onto their shares and don't sell them, the price rockets up. This causes more lenders to issue margin calls and a vicious cycle continues until all the shorts exit the trade.

People use Robinhood halting buy orders of meme stocks as evidence of the market being rigged, but they don't understand how the market works.

It takes 3 days for a trade to formally settle and be complete. You can't legally retrade those funds until they settle. Robinhood literally ran out of cash to buy more shares with because of demand.

Fidelity never stopped buy orders of GME, just like many other large brokers.
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Naked shorting is not illegal. Market makers could not function without it. That lack of knowledge is why so many more people lost their ass on that GME gimmick P&D than "made millions."

Every sucker who loses on obvious pump-and-dumps blames the mythical naked shorts. Happens every single time. Promoters who do the P&D's depend on you believing it so you'll fall for the next one and the one after.
 
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gagabobo1997 said:
Many also lost thousands on it. It was essentially a crypto pump and dump with a stock
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Those people didn't understand what was happening and blindly followed the crowd or got too greedy and traded on emotion. Both are things everyone is warned about when creating a trading account. You can't stop people from making bad trades.

The people who got screwed on GME were corrupt hedge fund investors. They would heavily short and destroy companies to loot the corpse and thought GME was another victim. They ended up losing billions because of autists refusing to sell their GME until the price was hundreds of dollars per share. At least two of the funds dissolved after the margin call.

CaliforniaRaisin said:
I'm more fascinated that the government continues to dump tons of cash into the dairy industry to keep it artificially inflated even as demand decreases. Effectively making the dairy industry reliant on government money.

That seems like the real story here.
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The ability to feed ourselves is a matter of national security. If milk prices go down significantly, farms shut down and we lose the ability to be self-sufficient. That's worse than throwing some gibs to farmers.
 
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Blindeye said:
I'm reminded of a quest in Runescape (from 2007) where there's an island full of seemingly normal penguins that are actually spies using advanced technology to subvert society for their own gain. How the fuck was that of all things prophetic
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And they're all communists too. I wonder if Jagex is going to go back and rewrite that quest now.
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
it's a fascinating read that came about basically because we had a dairy shortage in the 70s.
www.farmlinkproject.org

Cheese Caves and Food Surpluses: Why the U.S. Government currently stores 1.4 billion lbs of cheese

Hundreds of feet below the ground in Missouri, there are hundreds of thousands of pounds of American cheese. Deep in converted limestone mines, caves kept...
www.farmlinkproject.org www.farmlinkproject.org

i know this is probably a joke, but apparently the penguins shipped us 1.4 million dollars of "Machinery and Electrical", so there was absolutely someone taking advantage of a trade loophole somewhere.
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https://news.sky.com/story/island-h...ou-may-have-missed-on-liberation-day-13340958 | archive

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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tariffs-australia-liberation-day-2054649 | archive
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....Rather than a hilarious meme, we've got "accidentally exposing a trading scheme." I can't believe this is how I'm spending my day off.
 
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Countries that rely on both exports and imports of their own resources to other nations instead of using their own resources to fix their own national problems don't deserve to exist, simple as.

If these corrupt and retarded leaders of other nations pulled their heads out of their asses and started utilizing every one of their nation's national local resources instead of asking "gibs me dats" and exploiting loopholes, this wouldn't have happened in the first place.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
have a tiny bit of self awareness and question why you're crying about a US ship getting attacked 58 years ago but are ignoring active attacks on US ships now.
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Because we hate the Jews, especially you. That is not an invalid position.
Catch The Rainbow said:
I never said it was iran directly, I said it was iranian sponsored groups. read carefully and try to sound out the words if it's hard to comprehend.
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And this is why we hate the Jews. Constantly doing this "I'm not touching you I'm not touching you" nonsense bullshit as if social and political interactions are subject to rules lawyering. If I pay someone to punch you in the face, it is my fault you got punched in the face. I'm considering starting a crowdfunding campaign for the purpose actually, I think a lot of people here would contribute.
Catch The Rainbow said:
>Israel accidentally kills US soldiers on active duty

cry and bitch 58 years later despite tens of millions of dollars and an apology

>Iranian sponsored proxies who literally have the goal of killing Americans kill US soldiers on active duty and are firing on US ships right now

look it's part of the job, sometimes iran just has to instruct its proxies to kill US soldiers in order to fulfill their national interest

you're a doublethinking thirdworldist nigger
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Yes because Israel are meant to be ALLIED to the US. An enemy killing your men is expected, that's war. An ally killing your men is unforgivable. Again, not to belabor the point, but you are Jewish, and this makes you incapable of understanding this. A traitor is worse than an open enemy. You are worse than an Iranian.
mooted said:
Im 90% sure that the loophole with the penguins island is fake and gay.
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Unfortunately for you, global economic policy is not built on vibes. Go find proof that you're right and come back to deboonk the guy. Also "I'm" has an apostrophe in it, so try reading a book while you're gone.
 
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Fuck Bankers said:
examples?
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Loomer has consistently had the inside scoop on several stories before they actually came out. I don't know who her inside sources are but they're clearly good and well connected because she's always ahead of the MSM. She's also been talking about bad staffers in the white house for months before this current round of firing and she provided receipts for the staff being no good long before anyone else did.

Most recent example before this current story was her learning about the inside details of that botched Espein Files photo op that Pam Bondi was trying to pin on everyone else. Loomer was warning against Pam Bondi for a while, which I agree with, seeing as how disappointing she has been since she was appointed.

Another thing to point out is that Loomer will actually go to places and does actually do some research (or knows how to hire the right people to do it for her). I think the most notable example is that Las Vegas shooter, she actually went to that hotel and showed how there was zero security in the hotel and showed how the shooter was able to get around easily.

That's off the top of my head.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
have a tiny bit of self awareness and question why you're crying about a US ship getting attacked 58 years ago but are ignoring active attacks on US ships now. The Houthi who's slogan is literally death to America just fired missiles at the USS truman and you're sucking them off.
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Isn't that what jews do with the Holocaust and their genocide of Palestine? Not gonna work chief. Point is there's more proof for than against and if you talk about it you're immediately silenced in the mainstream. That doesn't happen with normal honest accidents. Retards like you will say shit like "trust me bro, I've read some books on it" as if that's a real fucking argument.
Catch The Rainbow said:
I never said it was iran directly, I said it was iranian sponsored groups. read carefully and try to sound out the words if it's hard to comprehend.
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Again you keep avoiding the point that the only reason Iran hates the US is because of Israel and it's antics. Comeback when you can do more than pick and choose around what I say because you don't have arguments.
Catch The Rainbow said:
>Israel accidentally kills US soldiers on active duty

cry and bitch 58 years later despite tens of millions of dollars and an apology

>Iranian sponsored proxies who literally have the goal of killing Americans kill US soldiers on active duty and are firing on US ships right now

look it's part of the job, sometimes iran just has to instruct its proxies to kill US soldiers in order to fulfill their national interest

you're a doublethinking thirdworldist nigger
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> Israel actually killed 58 soldiers and steals billions from our government

>Iran says mean things about the US and has goals of hurting soldiers

Okay retard nigger. This is why you're going to be banned from 110 countries one day. If time heals all wounds and 58 years is too late then we shouldn't ever have to hear about the ancient history that is the Holocaust or Jewish oppression ever again
 
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BlackDragoons said:
Vehicle parts, machinery (specifically mining) computer parts, food, ect.

Oh yeah and the tariffs are dropping the dollar.
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vehicle parts are on back order for months already. it would benefit you incredibly if they were produced locally in the united states, so that you could receive your parts within a week or so, rather than the literal months it takes to get ordered parts right now.

machinery is not a necessity for you, and again, already has evidence that production is opening back up. see above with the reference to paper mills. companies will sometimes need to pay more for a part. that is how trade works.

computer parts are absolutely not a necessity, and again, this is ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED. there are factories opening in the US, spurred on by tariffs.

basic necessity food is NOT imported, the US actually works very hard to ensure basic necessity foods are available from within the country. go to a farmer's market, man. support local grow.

so far you've failed to actually list any day to day necessities of the poor american individual. and you know what else was dropping the dollar? being at a massive inability to fix trade deficits with our alleged allies for decades. if europe was so concerned about americans not having to deal with high tariffs and taxes, maybe they shouldn't have had so many bans on american products being purchased and imported into europe. if china didn't want 54% tariffs, maybe they shouldn't have such incredibly obviously nationalist laws about who is and isn't allowed to do business legally in china, to the point of basically excluding foreigners entirely from multiple different major markets.

not to mention, as everyone seems to be loving ignoring, many countries have had tariffs on us for far longer than this at higher rates, and those countries didn't collapse economically, their citizens weren't priced out of food. in fact, countries in southeast asia have recently used tariffs on china to great effect which sent china's markets into a panic about where they'd be taking a lot of t heir domestic goods once indonesia announced tariffs of up to 200% on chinese imports.
 
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Barleys said:
America is quite literally the largest consumer market in the entire world, a majority of countries get most of their consumerism done by Americans. If industries are struggling to trade with quite literally their largest markets what do you think they're going to do.
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China's new middle class with disposable income that has emerged during the past 20 years is larger than the entire US population. That's why every Fortune 500 company is willing to sell you out as fast as possible for access to them.
 
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