US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Amelia Troonheart said:
New Nintendo console, new iPhone, new overpriced shoes sorry shoe guy the latest temu or wish gadget they saw on TikTok or instagram it's all the same high time preference bullshit of weak minded dopamine addicted individuals with nothing worthwhile in their lives to turn their attention to.
Perhaps after the withdrawals are through, they'll find they can focus on making and building skills instead of consuming.
Gardening, sewing, crafts, fishing, hunting, woodcarving, even some backyard chickens if they've got the room. All much more fulfilling and satisfying than consoooooming all the time.
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MAGA patriots are now unironically promoting leftist anti-consumerist/anti-technological values and the return to an unironical agrarian society. Very American indeed.

What a ride.
 
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LaxerBRO said:
So what is Trump's plan behind the tariffs?
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It’s probably a mistake to think about it in fiscal policy or geostrategic terms.

You’ve got to think about it from Trump’s point of view. Now, any US oligarch who wants his empire not to be completely fucked will come to Trump on his knees, cap in hand, begging for a carve out. In return: fealty and geld.

It’s simple mob tactics. Trump is an autocrat. He doesn’t really care what damage he does either domestically or overseas. Global recession? Who gives a fuck, it can only be of benefit to the 0.1% that he represents.
 
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Techno-primitivist said:
MAGA patriots are now unironically promoting leftist anti-consumerist/anti-technological values and the return to an unironical agrarian society. Very American indeed.

What a ride.
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whoever masterminded the complete 180° turn on EV's by both Rednecks and Libshits is a genius and they deserve whatever wealth and power they have. That was some brilliant social engineering.
 
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quaawaa said:
How hard do you think it is to buy an injection molding machine or a CNC mill? Most Chinese-made goods are simple things that a small shop can make.
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Yes and no. Even if a lot of the the consumer goods manufacturing that presently outsourced to China comes back to the US, these tariffs are still likely to raise prices on them, at least in the short term.

Small tooling like a desktop CNC mill or injection molding machine are likely themselves to be cheap shit of Chinese origin. With American manufacturing being hollowed out over the past several decades, combined with increasingly sophisticated automation, anything less than full blown big professional machines that start at $100k and go up from there, is likely to be either worn out obsolete manual machines from decades ago, or a Chinese copy of the same made from cheaper materials that will wear out quickly.

Then there's the design skills factor. Like it or not, with manufacturing having been outsourced to China for decades, China has gotten very good at designing things to be manufactured profitably to a price point. It is somewhat counter-intuitive, but it takes skill and work to make things a cheap and shitty as most Chinese goods are, and I don't think US firms have people with those skills in large quantity. It remains to be seen if they can train new personnel into those skills quickly.

quaawaa said:
Yes they do. They have infinite tariffs on American beef and chicken, for example.

Just because they say that their regulations are for “safety” instead of for trade reasons doesn’t make that true.
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Given that RFK might be onto something with his whole "Make America Healthy Again", I'm inclined to think there may be some truth to the EU restrictions on US meat products being for safety reasons. I'm sure trade protectionism is part of it too, but I'm not willing to completely dismiss that they might actually have valid health & safety reasons for not wanting to buy our meat products.
 
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Tucker interviewed the treasury secretary about tariffs:
0:00 Trump’s Tariff Plan
5:42 The Current State of the Stock Market
8:22 Will Americans See Substantial Tax Cuts Because of Tariffs?
13:16 How Much Money Will America Make Through Tariffs?
14:33 Bringing Manufacturing Back to the US
20:14 Tariff Pushback From Foreign Countries
22:16 Will China Retaliate?
25:42 How Will Europe Be Impacted?
33:12 Is the Upper Class Out of Touch With the Lower and Middle Class?
35:47 Bessent’s Biggest Worries
42:35 The Long Term Benefits of DOGE
46:17 The Corruption of the Federal Reserve
49:22 Why Gold Is So Critical Right Now
52:13 Zelensky's Self-Sabotaging Negotiation Tactics
1:00:19 The Trump Administration’s Messaging About the Economy
 
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CEO of Gay said:
Small tooling like a desktop CNC mill or injection molding machine are likely themselves to be cheap shit of Chinese origin.
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The largest manufacturers of CNC machines by volume are Japanese and German companies. (Although these are probably full sized.) This is also true for a lot of industrial automation. We can negotiate with those countries.

It would’ve probably been smarter to make a domestic investment deal with Japan on the tooling front. Maybe dropping the tariffs will incentivize that to happen.
 
Oxyjen said:
It’s probably a mistake to think about it in fiscal policy or geostrategic terms.

You’ve got to think about it from Trump’s point of view. Now, any US oligarch who wants his empire not to be completely fucked will come to Trump on his knees, cap in hand, begging for a carve out. In return: fealty and geld.

It’s simple mob tactics. Trump is an autocrat. He doesn’t really care what damage he does either domestically or overseas. Global recession? Who gives a fuck, it can only be of benefit to the 0.1% that he represents.
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America is the global hegemon, it should start acting like it. Our allies should be getting their shineboxes and bending the knee, not pretending to be our equals or superiors. The unimportant cakes of dirt and shit that they call "countries" would not exist without America paying for their security.

Eurofaggots can't understand that their gay accents do not make them more intelligent. When we want input from our "allies", we will ask for it.
 
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