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Luigi Mangione kills one rich asshole- leftists build shrines and act like he's the greater hero who ever lived.

Trump - causes thousands of millionaires and millionaires to cry and shit their pants, fucks over corporations and corrupt assholes - leftists call him Hitler
I never understood their philosophy involving the rich. I guess some millionaires are holier than thou, while others don't deserve any respect. Example: they have no problem using Jeff Bozos as a figurehead for greedy corporations, case in point:

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Yet practice celebrity worship because they preach their same politics. Even better, I bet they still use Amazon for their day-to-day life.
 
@Dread First You mentioned somewhere in this thread that the purchase and delivery of these scientific instruments is the reason why tariffs exist for territories with no permanent human residence. But wouldn't those tariffs be incredibly easy to avoid? What stops Australia from ordering American scientific instruments unto their mainland, and then transport it unto McDonald island, without facing any increased tariff rates they'd get if they ordered directly to McDonald island?

Yes and no? I'm only adjacent to the actual ins and outs of the proverbial customs brokerage machine, so please take what I say with a huge grain of salt. I'm speaking in the broadest of strokes here, and there are so many complexities and nuances with the topic that I'm only faintly aware of but have no direct experience with. Perhaps another Kiwi in a similar position to mine can elaborate or correct me if I'm wrong on any count, but to that end: not sure how many Kiwis regularly posting in USPOL are familiar with what I'm talking about.

Most huge 3PL firms like Keuhne+Nagel, Expeditors International, DSV Air&Sea, Nippon Express, among a litany of other multinational companies (and their subsidiaries) are also freight forwarders. In a nutshell: these companies have dozens, if not hundreds, of overseas branches scattered across the world that handle both import and export business. Let's say that I'm a garment manufacturer in Vietnam, and a huge American clothing company places an order for 2,500 kilos of women's blouses. It's virtually impossible for that manufacturer to directly sell that quantity of garments to the American company. This is where freight forwarders come into the picture.

Let's further expand on the garment manufacturing example, and arbitrarily pick DSV Air&Sea as the forwarder: their export branch in Hanoi will likely negotiate with both the garment manufacturer selling the product while their import branch in Chicago will negotiate with the importer, and come up with a combined quote that handles both the export-side stuff (i.e. export customs clearance, arranging transport from the factory in Vietnam to the mode of transport, the cost of the actual transport itself, export terminal fees, etc) and the import-side stuff (i.e. import terminal fees, import customs clearance, delivery to the final destination, etc).

This quote that DSV Air&Sea issues to both the exporter and the importer will normally fall under an incoterm (short for "international commercial term," as defined by the International Chamber of Commerce). Incoterms explicitly define the responsibilities of the exporter, the importer, and the various forwarder (or forwarders) involved at every step of the process. All of this shit's standardised to a "T" because the last thing anyone wants is for one leg of the process to buckle and say "hold on, I didn't agree to that!" For simplicity's sake, I'll continue the rest of this example assuming air freight is the mode of transport, since that's fewer incoterms for me to explain. Bear with me here as this is where shit gets really technical, really quickly.

You have EXW (Ex Works) /FCA (Free Carrier) for freight collect shipments, where the exporter bears the least of the costs whilst the importer bears the brunt of it, in addition to the freight charges. EXW terms means that the seller foots almost nothing for the cost of the shipment, whereas FCA means that the seller needs to foot the bill until the shipment gets to the point of transit.

CPT (Carriage Paid To)/CIP (Carriage & Insurance Paid) are freight prepaid terms where the exporter bears a moderate amount of the cost whilst the importer foots the bill for everything else once the cargo arrives at the destination port. The only real distinction between the two terms is whether or not there's any insurance on the cargo in question. Insurance is always negotiable.

Finally we have DAP (Delivered At Place)/DPU (Delivered at Place Unloaded)/DDP (Delivered, Duties Paid) which are all freight prepaid terms where the exporter foots the brunt of the bill and the importer only pays for duties and taxes (i.e. DAP/DPU shipments) or the seller is fully responsible for all costs on both the export and import side, including all relevant duties and taxes (i.e. DDP shipments).

In the case of a textile shipment, they usually fall under FCA or CPT/CIP terms. Assuming a term of CPT, the garments from Hanoi are uninsured, the importer paid the freight charges in advance, but the exporter bears the costs from the moment of export all the way until the cargo is loaded on the vessel and arrives at the destination port. Then the importer needs to shoulder the rest of the burden once it's properly available for recovery at Chicago O'Hare. The DSV Air&Sea HAN team will notify their ORD team that the cargo departed origin, so that the destination team can get ready to pay the import fees, clear customs, and arrange delivery to the final destination (i.e. a distribution facility, a contracted warehouse, etc).

Circling back to how this would affect scientific instruments coming from nearly uninhabited locations like Antarctica, you'd still have a freight forwarder involved. It's just a matter of which origin branch is geographically closest to arrange transportation from that location. Perhaps DSV Air&Sea has a JHB (Johannesburg) or CPT (Cape Town) team in South Africa who can notify the relevant destination team in America when the time comes to export the shipment. If we're talking about instruments from McDonald Island, then DSV Air&Sea's export team in MEL (Melbourne) or SYD (Sydney) would be more appropriate to begin the export process.

Once that process begins, this is where the real headache starts. All of these scientific instruments require extensive documentation indicating where the cargo was initially manufactured, where the cargo presently is (i.e Antarctica, McDonald Island), where the cargo is ultimately destined for (i.e. the original manufacturing plant or laboratory that designed the cargo in America), the value of the cargo, relevant HTS codes to indicate how the instrument should be treated (i.e. should it be treated as a brand spanking new instrument freshly manufactured and sold to X/Y/Z party, or is it returning from X/Y/Z because it reached EOL?).

Customs fraud is a notoriously tricky subject, I'm sure there are ways to accomplish it, but the real kicker here is that so much of this shit's standardised and digitised to a point where if there's anything remotely suspicious, customs on either the export side or destination side will immediately trigger a red flag and the cargo gets stalled for review, where storage fees are liable to accrue at whatever terminal the cargo's located at during that point in transit. This isn't just limited to scientific instruments, either. Lots of cargo can fall under customs or PGA (partner government agency) review if a red flag is tripped.

I could go on and on here, but I'm kinda exhausted at thinking about all the potential scenarios where customs fraud is likely to be detected. It does happen and stuff does fly under the radar, but I just can't fathom a situation where scientific instruments would end up in that type of scenario. Normally fraud happens when an exporter says that their commodity is "books" and it's technically true, but they're exporting banned books to a country that would destroy them if detected (a highly cherry picked example JFYI).
 
Wisconsin is one of those hicklib states that has California's politics despite being mostly rural and white. I don't know if it's the best example to model Republican performance since they almost always do shit there.
its basically scandinavia but america. the white guilt is strong there.

@hihest lmao libtard cults thinking we give a shit about what they think. Hitler fucked up by trying to make the world into Germany, which is basically globehomo shit except for Germans only.
 
The rich that support them are good, the rich that are against them are bad.

"Them" just being the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party turned around tomorrow and said, "Actually, troons are a menace. And Elon is donating to us again," libs would love Elon once again, and you would once again be a science-hating Nazi for not buying a Tesla.
 
"Them" just being the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party turned around tomorrow and said, "Actually, troons are a menace. And Elon is donating to us again," libs would love Elon once again, and you would once again be a science-hating Nazi for not buying a Tesla.
Liberals tend to follow orders and directives from the top better then soldiers in most armies do.
 
If you don't have a significant percentage of your savings in the stock market you are either poor or retarded or both.
You know how many dumb ass niggas I see day trading, putting all those cash in meme stocks, or even better buying CDs. Like, last week, I had a nigga want to do an “iron condor” play because the name “sounded cool”.

Don’t think people putting money into the market are not full blown retarded compared to some peeps who just sit out.
 
It's just gonna make coffee more expensive for no discernable benefit.
Our economy is a fart soufflé of financialization and other Talmudic fictions. As the gas is let out we have to return to creating things of real value by manufacturing things here in our own country.

As @Pod 042 said you either buy into this method of correcting the economy or you don't. The same situation is happening with immigration, crime, and DEI-- a totally unbalanced system has been allowed to proliferate and now must be radically removed to prevent the destruction of our nation.

Demanding a more cautious and precise approach doesn't work because you can't clear out triple canopy jungle with bonsai scissors. This is slash-and-burn and Agent Orange time. Keep sabotaging and slow-walking and we will make it to the GLASS IT! stage.
 
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As @Pod 042 said you either buy into this method of correcting the economy or you don't. The same situation is happening with immigration, crime, and DEI-- a totally unbalanced system has been allowed to proliferate and now must be radically removed to prevent the destruction of our nation.

Demanding a more cautious and precise approach doesn't work because you can't clear out triple canopy jungle with bonsai scissors. This is slash-and-burn and Agent Orange time. Keep sabotaging and slow-walking and we will to the GLASS IT! stage.
Trump has planted a forest of trees whose shade he might never sit under. Time will tell if any of the Presidents of the future choose to destroy the saplings before they can grow to bear fruit. Long-term thinking is often the bane of democracies.
 
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they've gotten complacent since the presidential
.... how is spending tons on elections and trump doing a million things complacency?
Dems are more energized than ever and are overperforming in many districts; they're protesting and holding rallies like they're life depends on it, boosting their base even more while the MAGA movement slowly weakens
You're at 29 percent approval, have largely lost the culture and most of government
Your post is incoherent and retarded
 
Hey, we finally found an actual leftist! Just reinforces most of the redditors and whatnot just regurgitate whatever the Nonbiased Sources™️ say is good and socialism is "being good people" or "when we love each other" and other mush brain nonsense
Imagine being so retarded that you think being suspicious of billionaires, and the power that they consequently wield, is exclusively a socialist position. Moreover, imagine being so fucking braindead that your solution is to give that power to government institutions who can legally imprison or even kill you if you object.
 
Oh no, now the tariffs goes equally in both directions, and line wont go up.

Seriously, anyone that thinks that eternal growth is a thing has the mind of a child.
I keep seeing this line repeated and Josh even alluded to the same thing on MATI but no the tariffs aren't even. Despite the narrative that we are simply tariffing countries based on their tariffs against us that has no basis. I hate linkking a CNN article but you can look at whatever mainstream slop you want to confirm.


Does this mean the tariffs are a bad idea? No I really like the principle of the tariffs is aiming for and we are already seeing positive results like the TMSC investment and domestic manufacturing commitments. I'm unsure how much of the total damage can be undone but I'm happy to at least be trying something. I'm tired of being the world police while everyone else has an extra 3-5% of their budget to spend on whatever they want and they should reimburse us for that quality of life but instead it's nothing but shitting on the U.S.

I am tired of seeing people post something that's just factually inaccurate though. The idea that we are just tariffing them equally to what they are tariffing us, which isn't true.
 
As the gas is let out we have to return to creating things of real value by manufacturing things here in our own country.
If the legal immigration channels aren't cut those manufacturing jobs will just go to cheap imported labor, offering the worst version of "offshoring" in which not only are American jobs not made, but the foreigners brought here en masse to shit up the country.
 
@Dread First Impressively detailed post, appreciate the time you put into it.

To save your time and energy, I'm simply gonna ask you for any book or article would you recommend to read, that goes more in detail about what you were talking about so I'd have a better understanding on how these logistic processes work.
 
The way I see it, the biggest threat to Trump's tariffs is TPTB thinking they can just wait it out until the end of his term and then get back to business as usual. That goes double for investment in US industries which takes years to bear fruit.

All of these tariffs are by executive order. He needs to convince people that either they can get passed into law or that his successors will continue them. Otherwise America is just going to get the short-term pain and quit before getting the long-term gains.

This has always been a weakness with American foreign policy. People just wait out the current presidency.
They are absolutely trying to ride out the clock because they are banking on Congress going back to losing with dignity and getting rich in the process. TPTB absolutely cannot afford to let Americans see that their government can do something good for them.
This also ignores the bigger picture, the U.S. currently doesn't have the infrastructure or workforce to support large-scale manufacturing like it did in the 1900s.
'waah it's hard so we shouldn't ever do it'

Nigger, Rome wasn't built in a day. Quit your bitching.
The rich that support them are good, the rich that are against them are bad.
That's all it boils down to.
 
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