US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the Senate
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Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Skylavijas]

I also have a similar confusion @Nottafed

I understand the logic of putting tariffs on things like European and Asian brand cars for instance, to make American brand cars more competitive within the market (at least domestically) and discourage outsourcing labor or purchasing specific car parts abroad, but those are not tariffs targeting specific products, those are blanket tariffs. Which means that some of the products effected will involve resources like rare earth minerals, minerals necessary for making computer chips and IT tech that US simply does not have, or does not hold nearly enough to match domestic demand. What is the purpose of placing tariffs on natural resources US can't extract itself? Is the US reinvigorated manufacturing industry gonna engage in alchemy and turn stone into cesium?

Excluding critical IT resources, there are agricultural products like coffee. On paper - yes, it should promote coffee bean cultivation within the US, but US territory that is capable of growing coffee beans is almost exclusively within tropical islands. It is physically impossible to meet the demand of a country of 300+ million people for a drink that's seen everywhere, all be it pumpkin spice lattes within Starbucks or black tar coffee at construction sites. It's just gonna make coffee more expensive for no discernable benefit.

I can't help but view tariffs on certain products as counter-productive in fostering productivity.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

What is the purpose of placing tariffs on natural resources US can't extract itself?

Idk what's the purpose of foreign countries putting tariffs on those same materials regarding the US?
If they want Trump to drop the tariffs, all they have to do is drop theirs.

 

[Skylavijas]

Idk what's the purpose of foreign countries putting tariffs on those same materials regarding the US?
If they want Trump to drop the tariffs, all they have to do is drop theirs.

Can you give me an example?

 

[George Lucas]

Is it just me or is very odd/hilarious how the pro Luigi types are now rooting for the type of person Luigi killed?

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

Can you give me an example?

Vietnam literally today.

Source | Archive

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Here's my giant sperg take based on consuming this shit constantly:
Honestly man, nobody really knows.

God, you're retarded. It's really simple. Level the playing field and create international negotiations with everyone who is screwing us and force them to remove their tariffs on American goods. Bringing manufacturing back to America to become an exporting nation means nothing if half the people we're sending goods to, tax them out the anus. Every trade war Trump has ever started, he's won. Canada caved in milliseconds. The EU caved. Everyone caved. He has gotten literally everything he has asked for. Now he launched that approach globally. If you can't figure this out, you're a borderline retarded nigger.

Everyone who says this is a bad thing is lying to you. The media is lying to you. Bob Iger of Disney went before the board of NBC executive meeting and told NBC news they need to start "educating the public on how tariffs really work". (Which is incredibly illegal btw) They are all lying to you. Half the faggots here are lying to you. Anyone saying these tariffs are a bad thing is a liar. Unless your name is China, you cannot engage in a trade war with the US. You have neither the economic power to survive, nor the military might to stand up to the US. At the end of the day, trade wars boil down to "Can I do something about it if I simply say 'no'?". The entire planet has been demilitarized by the US. So the answer is no.

The trillions in wipeouts have nothing to do with the tariffs, but rather a product of an economy so incredibly risk averse that the mere mention of slight pricing adjustments has stock brokers jumping off buildings. This is not an exaggeration. It's been this way since 2008. We live in an economically inflated bubble that was always going to naturally burst. It's just bursting by their own hands. It's not Trump's fault 401ks are being wiped out. It's the NYSE's culture of making up whatever statistic they possible have to in order for line to go up. It's a weak economic approach based on lies that started under Biden and now it's coming home to roost with the Fed literally omitting entire sets of statistics to force feed growth that caused everyone to live on knives edges. The reality is, the stock market has been tanking for the past 4 years and it's only been propped up from a Great Depression by market manipulation and literal lying on the Feds part.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

the mere mention of slight pricing adjustments has stock brokers jumping off buildings.

Fuck, I wish this was literal.

 

[Third Kiwi Account]

And looking after the dairy aisle is such a surprisingly shitty job. I worked in a supermarket through college, and my friend got stuck on dairy aisle duty for months because she was timid and the manager used to assign it to her all the time because she didn't complain. Her hands were in a rotten state after the first few weeks, her skin was all dry and cracked from the cold.

Honest question, Why didn't they wear gloves?
I ran freezer areas and my coworkers and I just used gloves to protect our hands (with the addition of moisturizing after a shift if necessary). Didn't have any issues.
Tbh I had more problems when I did dishes from the hot water/cleaner combo. THAT really messed with my skin.

 

[trent]

Idk what's the purpose of foreign countries putting tariffs on those same materials regarding the US?
If they want Trump to drop the tariffs, all they have to do is drop theirs.

Trump haters don't get that pretty much his entire thing is "The Deal".

His lifelong philosophy is to drive a hard bargain to get you to come to the table and negotiate.

It's the same thing with the fucking insane statements he comes out with about annexing certain countries or making himself President for life. Hit them with the worst possible scenario they could imagine and you can get away with literally anything less than that even if it still benefits you disproportionately.

 

[Mister Fister]

There is going to be TONS of propaganda in the meantime, and lots of attempts to discredit Trump and make everyone afraid... but ask yourself, has that ever worked against him? We elected this man to do some Gangster Psycho Shit to save this country, and this is what it's going to take. What side you fall on is whether you can trust the plan and believe in the future, or care only about the now, and your piece of the pie.
Hope that helps.

When you already say someone is the devil, what else can you do for propaganda?

"What's the penalty for being late?" "Death." "What's the penalty for rebellion?" "Death." "Well -- we're late."

 

[The Last Stand]

If you see America as anything less than this you should be deported to a corner of the globe in which I will personally never see you again. If you do not match the energy of this drawing unironically you are just a tourist in my country
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I don't get it. How old is that woman?

 

[George Lucas]

Trump haters don't get that pretty much his entire thing is "The Deal".

His lifelong philosophy is to drive a hard bargain to get you to come to the table and negotiate.

It's the same thing with the fucking insane statements he comes out with about annexing certain countries or making himself President for life. Hit them with the worst possible scenario they could imagine and you can get away with literally anything less than that even if it still benefits you disproportionately.

Maybe that’s what led to this though. Maybe everyone got too used to ‘the deal’ that they thought the threats could never go through. And now Trump has actually gone through with the threat.

There are two outcomes: either they give into Trump’s demands or Trump is tard-wrangled out of effective power.

 

[Overly Serious]

The way I see it, the biggest threat to Trump's tariffs is TPTB thinking they can just wait it out until the end of his term and then get back to business as usual. That goes double for investment in US industries which takes years to bear fruit.

All of these tariffs are by executive order. He needs to convince people that either they can get passed into law or that his successors will continue them. Otherwise America is just going to get the short-term pain and quit before getting the long-term gains.

This has always been a weakness with American foreign policy. People just wait out the current presidency.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

The way I see it, the biggest threat to Trump's tariffs is TPTB thinking they can just wait it out until the end of his term and then get back to business as usual. That goes double for investment in US industries which takes years to bear fruit.

All of these tariffs are by executive order. He needs to convince people that either they can get passed into law or that his successors will continue them. Otherwise America is just going to get the short-term pain and quit before getting the long-term gains.

This has always been a weakness with American foreign policy. People just wait out the current presidency.

It is why I want term limits for congress. I always found that imbalance odd, executive powers are mighty but fickle making Congress arguably more important than the president since they can execute a plan over years.

 

[Apis Mellifica]

He can bring back the jobs but he can never bring back the foreskins

Hey an actually funny post from you, good job!

While most pro-Orange Man people I know are still extremely thankful that Trump is doing something about the hordes of browns and rampant faggotry, the pro-Israel shit is killing his perception among younger men and women who recognize them as a parasite nation not even remotely worth our time or money. Jim mentioned during his last stream that this is only month three of Trump's term so expecting him to have already solved every problem is unrealistic, does anyone else agree? Patience is hard to have when leftoid nigger judges remain assailing gun rights and fighting tooth and nail to groom children and import browns.

 

[autistic dog]

The funniest thing about the boycotts over tariffs is them talking out both sides of their mouth. I thought that umm ackually the tariffs are paid by the importer so you stupid American are footing the bill? The interesting fact is how weirdly obsesses they are with America. You see videos of Canada packing up Jack Daniels to ship back removing the product entirely. American liquor store just raises the price of crown royal as needed without even mentioning the tariff. Americans have been getting fucked by tariffs for so long that we have already accepted the markup for "imported" as a fact of life.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

The way I see it, the biggest threat to Trump's tariffs is TPTB thinking they can just wait it out until the end of his term and then get back to business as usual. That goes double for investment in US industries which takes years to bear fruit.

All of these tariffs are by executive order. He needs to convince people that either they can get passed into law or that his successors will continue them. Otherwise America is just going to get the short-term pain and quit before getting the long-term gains.

This has always been a weakness with American foreign policy. People just wait out the current presidency.

Or you know.....make presidency into office for life....

 

[Overly Serious]

Or you know.....make presidency into office for life....

Strong comment-avatar synergy going on here...

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It is why I want term limits for congress. I always found that imbalance odd, executive powers are mighty but fickle making Congress arguably more important than the president since they can execute a plan over years.

In theory. In practice, leadership is about conveying a singular vision to the masses. Evolution dictated some form of tyranny since Moonshadow got his tribe of man apes to bash in the brains of another tribe of man apes. That's why Congress kept abdicating power to the presidency instead of maintaining it.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Strong comment-avatar synergy going on here...

Only way to compete against globehomos around the world and Russia, china, and basically every long term rivals.