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This is true regime change. Trump is trying the most ambitious regime change in history. Usually when there is a giant reshaping of the global landscape there are massive amount of death and suffering.

Instead of having that physical fight in 5 years Trump is proactively take the fight to china so we dont have to have world war 3.

People will never appreciate how monumental Trump's actions are.
Know what else? Fucking China fucks all the deep state assholes who have been taking their money. That whole model is at risk of crashing. He’s going to sever the raison d'etre of the inner circle cia guys
 
97% of the pharmaceuticals the US uses are made in China, so we'd have to fight a war without antibiotics basically. So, bad things. There's a lot of reasons why we need to bring critical industries back beyond green line going up.
If China did, in fact, create 97% of all pharmaceuticals the US uses, China would have already fucked with us. They would have just shut the valve off and threatened to keep it off if Big Pharma didn't play nice.

Look at what's happening with British Steel. Some chinese company bought it and threatening to shut the last location down.

All Asian countries prefer the US to China. The PRC is very aggressive and has invaded several Asian countries including Vietnam and Korea.
Look what they do to their neighbors in the "south china" sea. They attack other countries ships with water cannons. Slowly take over smaller islands. Create their own man-made islands and put the military there.

That's not to mention they overfish like crazy. They send fishing vessels halfway across the world to fish. They turn off their identifiers and what not.
 
If China did, in fact, create 97% of all pharmaceuticals the US uses, China would have already fucked with us. They would have just shut the valve off and threatened to keep it off if Big Pharma didn't play nice.

Look at what's happening with British Steel. Some chinese company bought it and threatening to shut the last location down.
We're China's biggest market, they can't just fuck with us, see the whole divestment discussion. They can jerk the Bongs around because there's no real consequences for them. What are the Bongs going to do?
 
Whatifalthist is the greatest YouTuber philosopher to date.

It's also because Canadian national identity has become nothing after 1960s when Canada finally detached itself as a colony of Britain with its own set of constitution. Naturally, what was once a British heritage overnight became a Canadian heritage.

In search to fill it's hallow heart, Canada embraced the post modernists multicultural and mosaic identity as its prime definition of what it means to be Canadian.


And if course, if you are everything, you are nothing.

That's why Canada still struggles to define itself and it's heritage.

It's not a coincidence that all of Britain's former colonies embraced the same post modernists definition of its culture.

Australia, New Zealand, South Africa (lol) and more.

Canada is a tragic tale, what was once self styled as the loyal servants who didn't join a band of terrorists to create a secular masonic republic became it's most abused subjects. The subjugation of the former commonwealth was the direct result of American economic power surpassing Britain's.
While you could argue that America surpassing the mother country was inevitable due to sheer population and size, British free trade with America did not do her any favors. In 1870, Britain was the top producer in both coal and steel, by 1900, Britain was tied with America in coal and imported most of her steel from the states as well. Meanwhile, America enforced harsh tariffs on British goods to grow her own industrial economy, which worked wonders. Other questionable policies like allowing migration to America instead of directing them to the dominions resulted in the empire losing 15 million people to the US by 1920, if you count their descendants. Protectionism against American goods would have resulted in Britain keeping her industrial edge for a few decades longer at least, and with the Irish and other British emigrating to the commonwealth, the Empire very well could have entered the 1920s with a White population north of 70 million instead of the 55 it was IRL, which would be enough to remain competitive with the US for a few decades more instead of becoming a junior partner after WW1, and a vassal state after WW2.

Instead, the financial class made a killing importing cheaper goods to the detriment of Britain's position as the world power, and ultimately doomed the empire while they all scampered off to New York. A story which should sound eerily familiar to Americans today.
 
You guys want something that should make you mad?
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Sure, that was 70 years ago, but they didn't flip those numbers over night. If you were a blue collar worker, the cities around Lake Erie used to be the best place in the country. If you want to see just how hard the costal urban class fucked middle America.
People seem to forget that Black America was centralized around Chicago, Detroit, ect, because they were doing extremely well in manufacturing jobs, entering low middle class, with a wife a dog and 2.5 kids all going to church, through a means that worked extremely well for them. Industrial blue collar work made racism effectively non existent as both whites and blacks worked together on the same line, in the same business, and constantly interacting together while making America great.

No wonder Dems needed that gone, break apart the races so they didn't realize what was happening, and flood the market with drugs and family rape tactics. Can't push revolution if people actually like each other and are doing well financially.
 
two days and they're already bending the knee, Trump is in this for 400 days.
Ahhh FACK, remember when before the election trump said we were gonna drill again and then energy prices dropping were going to keep the prices down while we tariffed everyone? Shit, fuck, he was right again
the problem is most people aren't paying attention, its like how tons of my friends wondered what was going to happen in season 2 of Game of Thrones or The last of us, most of them don't know the source material.
In 1870, Britain was the top producer in both coal and steel, by 1900, Britain was tied with America in coal and imported most of her steel from the states as well. Meanwhile, America enforced harsh tariffs on British goods to grow her own industrial economy, which worked wonders. Other questionable policies like allowing migration to America instead of directing them to the dominions resulted in the empire losing 15 million people to the US by 1920, if you count their descendants. Protectionism against American goods would have resulted in Britain keeping her industrial edge for a few decades longer at least, and with the Irish and other British emigrating to the commonwealth, the Empire very well could have entered the 1920s with a White population north of 70 million instead of the 55 it was IRL, which would be enough to remain competitive with the US for a few decades more instead of becoming a junior partner after WW1, and a vassal state after WW2.

Instead, the financial class made a killing importing cheaper goods to the detriment of Britain's position as the world power, and ultimately doomed the empire while they all scampered off to New York. A story which should sound eerily familiar to Americans today.
unironically the British let their libs fuck them, imagine how fucked the US would be if the British backed the confederates, but the abolitionists stopped that from happening. forcing a permeant north vs south would have meant way less money could go towards developing american industry and there would be continual bleeding kansas style events as both countries scramble for land. combine that with immigration policies and the north would have been super fucked. Having said that, having two americas probably wouldn't have helped during the world wars.
Sure, that was 70 years ago
fuck that, i saw the same chart about 1980, there's a reason you could be a pathetic serial killer and still have enough money to live on your own and buy tons of murder supplies and drugs while working a crappy job. shit was genuinely that good in the US very recently.
Industrial blue collar work made racism effectively non existent as both whites and blacks worked together on the same line, in the same business, and constantly interacting together while making America great.
well thats a huge fucking lie but ok
 
Fukuzawa Yukichi, a member of the first Japanese Embassy to the US (and a really fascinating historical figure) actually commented on this in his autobiography.

One of the most shocking things about American life to him was the massive piles of scrap metal we had sitting around. In Japan, that stuff was so valuable that a house fire would attract a swarm of peasants who would dig through the still-burning wreckage in order to scavenge singular nails. In America, you'd find an abundance of broken tools sitting in garbage dumps, or tin cans on the beach, all neglected and worthless to us.

That's also why they're so prideful about their metalworking. When your country is so barren, you need to make everything last.
If you start reading about the care Japanese sword smiths worked with you would be forgiven for thinking that they were making armaments fit for a god.... nope they were just trying to deal with the fact that Japan doesn't have proper metallic ore they had iron sand to work with the whole folded a million times and quenched in the blood of a unicorn thing is them just trying desperately to separate out the impurities in the metal
 
Thats the thing the confounds me, who really wants to work in factories with long hours in probably shitty wages unless they literally have no other choice?, do we need to accept more immigrants to make up for this?
If no one wants to do the job then the employer has to offer higher wages and better conditions to be competitive and entice local workers, if they aren't allowed to import cheap foreign scabs then they actually have to do this no matter how much they don't want to, and if the tariffs are done properly then doing so will still be cheaper than offshoring for their bottom line. This is all how the entire system is supposed to ideally operate, infinite brownoids breaks it
 
For America or China?
I keep imagining Buck Broken Chimp and a few of the other doomers who do drive by arguments sitting by their computer with a notebook and pen, scheming all day for an argument to go like "THIS WILL CONVINCE THOSE DARN DIRTY USPG USERS NOW THAT TARIFFS ARE EVIL!!!" and everyone going "lol are u retarded"

You doomers do give me a good chuckle sometimes!
Remember when everyone was Black pilled as fuck and saying it was Joever and I was the only one dropping white pills and being optimistic? Yeah I’m gonna mention that a lot from now on.
If this is what does in the CCP's power then the moral of Trump's second term is that "Trade is power"
My dad got to see The Soviet Union Collapse, now both I and he will see the CCP collapse.
 
America has a 5% unemployment rate. Most of which is kids, retired people and the rest is druggie criminals you don't want to be around. Who is going to work in these factories Trump wants to build ? The birth rate is low so it's not like we have more factory workers coming down the pipes.
I heard a rumor that there's a ton of former federal employees that are looking for new employment. Maybe that'll hold us over until we can research the ability to create more human beings somehow. Maybe buy the tech off India.
 
There it is, final proof this user(s) is completely ignorant of US trade relations, and is too lazy to look it up.
Obama 2- International sanctions during the Russo-Ukrainian War
Trump 1- Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act
Biden- Nordstream
Trump 2- ?
Oh wow. You pulled out all the previous admin stops. Anything related to 2025 I should be interested in? Oh, no? You’re completely relegated to drudging up decades old material? Okay then, whatever you say to fit your point.
 
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