Trade War 2025 - You get tariffs and you get tariffs, tariffs for everyone!

[Doctor Professor Timon]

Are you sure you're not a Chinese Party member?

No. The Chinese EPA and Chinese Niggers usually are a self-solving problem with building collapse and those workplace safety videos.

 

[khaine]

A mathematician explains the formula the administration used to calculate the tariff amounts:

Perun, defence economics powerpoints about it for an hour

At least you can learn something while the markets are crashing. Basically the Trump administration is lazy, incompetent, and batshit insane.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

But even Walmart jeans, you would have to do some very creative accounting to turn a 80+% tariff on stuff coming out of the country into a 400% price jump

Two things:
1) I've been consistently talking about bringing new manufacturing online. I just don't see the math adding up when you need to bring in the new machinery.
2) EDIT: That was what I was trying to get at with the 85% rough number. I do wonder on the massive 400-500% price jumps stated by this manufacturer is if they are trying to cover what would otherwise be poor management decisions (Eg; banks getting fisted by CRE dumpsterfire post covid by being overleveraged)?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Is America winning yet?

 

[pisswomble]

It's like global recession for globehomos but Greatest boom for American workers.

Aren't all the jobs going to be bugman factory work, though?

Can see the suicide net makers getting a lot of work if Apple and Nike bring jobs back to America.

 

[Male Idiot]

Aren't all the jobs going to be bugman factory work, though?

Can see the suicide net makers getting a lot of work if Apple and Nike bring jobs back to America.

Joke is on them, America's great waist size will prevent employees from jumping out of nornal sized windows.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

It's like global recession for globehomos but Greatest boom for American workers.

I can imagine right now how the fat and lazy yank will be working a minimum wage factory job and even then earning more than the average Vietnamese, which the fat and lazy, privileged and sensitive yank, will have to out-manufacture and sell the product at a competitive price.

I swear, the MAGA cult lives in some cartoon dimension or something.

 

[SBG]

Mentioned in another thread, but a big proponent of Trump's, Ackman, is now against the trade war and is also trying to lay the blame on Lutnick if some of his posts are anything to go by.

https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1909069404694065350

I just figured out why @howardlutnick is indifferent to the stock market and the economy crashing. He and Cantor are long bonds. He profits when our economy implodes. It’s a bad idea to pick a Secretary of Commerce whose firm is levered long fixed income. It’s an irreconcilable conflict of interest.

People are getting pissed seeing how Trump is affecting their portfolio's and can't really see it getting any better unless he calms his tits, which there's no sign he's going to so far. Though thinking about it there is also the chance gets shocked by what's going on with futures and decides to do a great big pause on all these tariffs, making him look like both an idiot for trying to do this stunt and also a pussy to the weird internet types that wanted to cry out the stock market was fake and that it's ackshually a good thing if it all fails.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I can imagine right now how the fat and lazy yank will be working a minimum wage factory job and even then earning more than the average Vietnamese, which the fat and lazy, privileged and sensitive yank, will have to out-manufacture and sell the product at a competitive price.

I swear, the MAGA cult lives in some cartoon dimension or something.

The politics thread is basically a Trump thread and their attitude is fuck everyone else.

I think it's too early to tell if it's a good policy or not. I have to be a bit suspicious of petty hatred as a motivation though. If China and Japan are any indication, other countries are going to flirt with potential competitors to see about alternatives to US dependence.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

The politics thread is basically a Trump thread and their attitude is fuck everyone else.

I think it's too early to tell if it's a good policy or not. I have to be a bit suspicious of petty hatred as a motivation though. If China and Japan are any indication, other countries are going to flirt with potential competitors to see about alternatives to US dependence.

One coherent theory that I saw was that it was all intentional chaos by the Trump admin to force countries to renegotiate their trade that'd have big boosts for the US and secure its manufacturing. It sounds like a good idea, but the way Trump is going about it is beyond retarded.
America of today could never outmanufacture a far east nation running on slavery and paying peanuts. Even if it could, production costs would be far higher and the products, of similar of worse quality, would lose to the same cheat asian crap Trump is trying to produce back in the US again. It's just so stupid.
More so, Trump has taken a dump on the US international reputation with threatening the EU and NATO, busting Ukraine's balls, and lost all good faith with this tariff nosense. Good luck trying to mass negotiate with everyone behind your back.

At best, this whole idea is some fantasy of a gang of billionaires. Someone who had never worked hard labor in a factory for cheap think they can dictate society to do that out of sheer patriotism, having no clue how manufacturing works and the real life cost of it.
Otherwise Trump and his crew really are retarded.

 

[anti SJW]

 

[Meiwaku]

I'm retarded, but I can use Google well enough to find out what red blooded capitalist economists are saying, they aren't happy.

My personal feelings are that Trump should have rolled these out gradually over the course of his Presidency.

I want the tariffs and for things to get better long term but this seems short sighted to me.

Mark my words. Things won't get better until 2026/2027.

 

[WelperHelper99]

One coherent theory that I saw was that it was all intentional chaos by the Trump admin to force countries to renegotiate their trade that'd have big boosts for the US and secure its manufacturing. It sounds like a good idea, but the way Trump is going about it is beyond retarded.
America of today could never outmanufacture a far east nation running on slavery and paying peanuts. Even if it could, production costs would be far higher and the products, of similar of worse quality, would lose to the same cheat asian crap Trump is trying to produce back in the US again. It's just so stupid.
More so, Trump has taken a dump on the US international reputation with threatening the EU and NATO, busting Ukraine's balls, and lost all good faith with this tariff nosense. Good luck trying to mass negotiate with everyone behind your back.

At best, this whole idea is some fantasy of a gang of billionaires. Someone who had never worked hard labor in a factory for cheap think they can dictate society to do that out of sheer patriotism, having no clue how manufacturing works and the real life cost of it.
Otherwise Trump and his crew really are retarded.

You think only of today and not of tomorrow. No pain no gain. It's not stupid to have manufacturing back in the US. People need jobs better than McDonald's and you shouldn't need a degree and a mountain of debt for it. Fuck off retard. Trump's success will bring wealth to millions of Americans that never had it before. I'd rather take a gamble than continue with the line must go up cult.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

Personally I’m optimistic. My parents told me they’re scared by it, however. What can I tell them to calm them down?

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

It's not stupid to have manufacturing back in the US.

You still operate under the assumption that manufacturing will truly return to the US. Again, this is highly unlikely as even such extreme tariffs do not create an economic environment which can foster local manufacturing. It is entirely possible that all this pain will provide zero benefit to the average US citizen.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

You think only of today and not of tomorrow. No pain no gain.

Get a load of communism over here.

It's not stupid to have manufacturing back in the US. People need jobs better than McDonald's and you shouldn't need a degree and a mountain of debt for it.

You also need good morals and be a social human being to be a productive member of society.
What other platitudes can we figure out?

Fuck off retard. Trump's success will bring wealth to millions of Americans that never had it before. I'd rather take a gamble than continue with the line must go up cult.

Get a load of communism over here.

 

[WelperHelper99]

You still operate under the assumption that manufacturing will truly return to the US. Again, this is highly unlikely as even such extreme tariffs do not create an economic environment which can foster local manufacturing. It is entirely possible that all this pain will provide zero benefit to the average US citizen.

I choose to have hope. Unlike stonk bros niggering out over this, i got nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why you don't bet everything on a magic gold line that MUST go up. There is a equal chance that the pain will bring infinite benefits to America.

Get a load of communism over here.

You also need good morals and be a social human being to be a productive member of society.
What other platitudes can we figure out?

Get a load of communism over here.

It's not communism to have a society that is advantageous to its own citizens. Fuck your stonks. Jobs for all is what Trump promised, and he is delivering. Fuck the rest of the world. America should have a edge in trade and no deficits. We have so much resources it's not funny. No reason we can't build everything here.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

I choose to have hope. Unlike stonk bros niggering out over this, i got nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why you don't bet everything on a magic gold line that MUST go up. There is a equal chance that the pain will bring infinite benefits to America.

Dummy, you have a lot to lose and you just might lose it because you believed the promise of a politician like a complete tool.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

It's not communism to have a society that is advantageous to its own citizens.

That's literally what communists said lol
I should know, I saw that shit with my own eyes.

Fuck your stonks. Jobs for all is what Trump promised, and he is delivering. Fuck the rest of the world. America should have a edge in trade and no deficits. We have so much resources it's not funny. No reason we can't build everything here.

Child, it's time to grow up.
You won't get the jobs back, your 1st world society is too laze and stupid to work hard. It's not an American thing, it's all over the modern world. You will never outwork the Vietnamese and Chinese slaves. You won't be able to automate manufacturing in any credible short term. You don't have nearly enough resources to self sustain your fat butt, nor the capability to exploit the ones you have.

Keep your dream about the American Empire, child. But one day you'll have to leave school, get a job and pay taxes and the dream will still be a dream only.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Dummy, you have a lot to lose and you just might lose it because you believed the promise of a politician like a complete tool.

Maybe. I also might win the jackpot. Don't you love risk? It's thrilling!

That's literally what communists said lol
I should know, I saw that shit with my own eyes.

Lol lmao.

Child, it's time to grow up.
You won't get the jobs back, your 1st world society is too laze and stupid to work hard. It's not an American thing, it's all over the modern world. You will never outwork the Vietnamese and Chinese slaves. You won't be able to automate manufacturing in any credible short term. You don't have nearly enough resources to self sustain your fat butt, nor the capability to exploit the ones you have.

Keep your dream about the American Empire, child. But one day you'll have to leave school, get a job and pay taxes and the dream will still be a dream only.

I won't grow up. What has been taken can be rebuilt. And the best time to start is now. Make America Great Again is what I voted for. I voted for hope. I'm getting it. I'm betting it all on green. I reject your libtard doomerism. When this works, you will look like a fool.