Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

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For a long time I struggled pinpointing what was it about Tate and other manosphere people that gave me bad mojo about them and I think I finally have a word for it - they're pimps. Their outlook on women and the way they treat them is barely distinguishable from people that own women and use them like property. Except... they're passing that behavior unto young people, as if it's normal.



The lifestyle they're advertising and describing to be as "trad" is basically just a 90s rap music video... mansions, sports cars, pools and scandalously dressed women that know their place and are always down for sex. Granted, the gap between 1995 and 2025 is 30 years now, big enough for there to be some sort of cultural divergence in one form or another, but it is incredibly surreal to see how something that used to be called "nigger behavior" by white men is now admired by them all over the world.
 
For a long time I struggled pinpointing what was it about Tate and other manosphere people that gave me bad mojo about them and I think I finally have a word for it - they're pimps. Their outlook on women and the way they treat them is barely distinguishable from people that own women and use them like property. Except... they're passing that behavior unto young people, as if it's normal.

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The lifestyle they're advertising and describing to be as "trad" is basically just a 90s rap music video... mansions, sports cars, pools and scandalously dressed women that know their place and are always down for sex. Granted, the gap between 1995 and 2025 is 30 years now, big enough for there to be some sort of cultural divergence in one form or another, but it is incredibly surreal to see how something that used to be called "nigger behavior" by white men is now admired by them all over the world.
Has the knowledge that he and his brother are pimps eluded someone?
 
gave me bad mojo about them and I think I finally have a word for it
The big thing that isn't talked about too much is that Iggy essentially introduced psychological techniques derived from California spirituality that is normally found in cults and New Religious Movements to the manosphere. This why they employ "witches and spells", why their club runs on a spening based tier system and why there is enormous pressure put on people who quit (think Scientology and Supressive Persons but much gayer). The Tate bros are also aspiring cult leaders.

Has the knowledge that he and his brother are pimps eluded someone?
Until a few years ago most people just assumed the Tate brothers were doing the same thing every other Manopshere influencer does: Bullshit about their wealth, accomplishments and connections. Whiile you had people warning about the Tates even back in 2018/2019 (I posted archives before) but the vast majority didn't think that Tate was being completely honest and serious about the "I'm a pimp and pornographer with mob connections" thing.
 
For a long time I struggled pinpointing what was it about Tate and other manosphere people that gave me bad mojo about them and I think I finally have a word for it - they're pimps. Their outlook on women and the way they treat them is barely distinguishable from people that own women and use them like property. Except... they're passing that behavior unto young people, as if it's normal.

Pimps and the intricacies of pimp love has been written about for at least a century.

White people naturally tune out what the real top of the top actual black pimp has to say about this rich topic that he navigates with precision and deft. There's just no real cultural resonance or Rosetta stone with which to get the mechanics across to whites. Explaining how-to-fly to a flightless bird.

White men are mostly immune to hearing such things until they begin to share the cultural conditions of the black man. So the real question is why are young white men, teens, children being treated and raised as if they are black? They shouldn't be able to tune in and accept any of this.
 
On the topic of pimps. The Soft White Underbelly video series has a plethora of long-form interviews with self-defined pimps. Worth a watch to get a feel for what type of person they are. Some are the old school type who look like they came straight out of a '70es Blaxploitation movie, others seem more contemporary. What they all have in common is they'll argue endlessly about how they're doing nothing wrong, just following the laws of nature. Can you argue against the laws of nature? Thought so.

The channel sits right on the line between the American fictionalized media that has influenced Western culture these past decades, and real life.

This guy for example, "Sharp". Whether he is full of shit or not doesn't matter. What matters is the way he talks, how he presents himself, how good he is at telling you what you want to hear, at coming across as "a tough but decent guy after all" and maybe someone you'd want to hang out with. Pimps were the ones helping the community when the government wasn't able to. It's not an obvious grift to see through if you're some lost teenage girl ripe for trafficking, or some lonely teenage kid looking for a role model, for that matter. He's maxxed out on charisma and good looks.

Pimp interview-Sharp (follow up)


Then there's this guy. He seems to be toning down the boastful theatrics, going more for the humble theatrics, but the stuff he says is still ridiculous. Five minutes in and he's already recalling a few times he badly beat up women, and using therapy-speak manages to make himself the victim ("the blood, it affected me, man"). Again, who knows what percentage of truth there is in these interviews, but I'm sure there are real people like this out there (I know because it was revealed to me in a dream).

Pimp Confessions-Young Rick

Imagine you're a lost young woman / teenage girl with no stable home. These are the guys who know exactly how to swoop in and present themselves as their protectors/substitute father figures. Redundant information for some, I guess, but I still think these long-form interviews have some instructional value, based on some posts in this thread.
 
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Washington, D.C. (April 3, 2025)—Today, Rep. Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee, demanded answers from Secretary of State Marco Rubio regarding the Trump Administration’s reported efforts to pressure Romanian authorities to lift court-imposed travel restrictions on Andrew and Tristan Tate, both of whom face serious allegations of human trafficking, including trafficking of minors, rape, and money laundering, and have long expressed support for President Donald Trump.



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Richard Grenell's response:

Ric Grenell Calls House Judiciary Staffer to ‘Berate’ Them Over Jamie Raskin Letter​

The top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin, sent a letter to the Trump administration about Andrew and Tristan Tate. Ric Grenell personally called a committee staffer to complain.

Ric Grenell speaks during a news conference in front of the Clark County Election Department. John Locher/AP
By Reese Gorman
April 3, 2025 02:24 PM

When Democrats in Congress typically send letters to the Trump administration, they don’t usually get a response — at least not like the one that Special Presidential Envoy for Special Missions of United States Ric Grenell gave a staffer on Thursday.
The back-and-forth started when the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin, wrote a letter to Secretary of State Marco Rubio and cc’d Grenell and Attorney General Pam Bondi.

After Raskin asked about the Trump administration’s role in bringing to the United States Andrew and Tristan Tate — who were both on house arrest in Romania while awaiting trial on human trafficking charges — Grenell called a Judiciary staffer on Thursday from an unknown number.
Grenell, who did not dispute that he called the staffer, allegedly “berated” the House Judiciary Committee employee over the letter, according to a source with knowledge of the conversation.
“He said the letter was ‘fucking fake news’ and that ‘you’re going to ruin my reputation,’” the source said.
The source further claimed that Grenell said the letter’s research was “bad” and that a “simple Google search” could disprove Raskin’s claims.
Grenell — who the source said was “worked up” — told the staffer he was “going to go public” about the letter, the source said.
Asked for comment about the phone call, Grenell told NOTUS that, “Your characterization of this conversation is absolutely wrong.”

“I would never say what he said I said. I sent an email to him too. Why don’t you get that from him? I put my concerns in writing,” Grenell said.
(When asked to share the email, Grenell said, “Just get it from the guy who already briefed you.”)
The source with knowledge of the conversation read Grenell’s email to NOTUS. In it, Grenell asks the staffer if they “purposely leave out the fact that the entire Romanian government said they were NOT pressured on this issue??!” Grenell also denied ever meeting with the Romanian foreign minister and said he declined a meeting when the minister asked for one.
“When you push fake news like this, you only damage yourself,” Grenell concluded in the email.
Grenell also said NOTUS’ characterization of the conversation was “very typical of Jamie Raskin.”
“He loves to play the victim. And fundraise by creating drama. You are being used by him for his political games,” Grenell said.

“We have the political system we have because Raskin recklessly slings mud — and enjoys it,” Grenell added. “Everyone outside of D.C. sees it.”
Neither the White House nor the State Department immediately responded to a request for comment.
While Raskin’s letter wasn’t unusual, Grenell’s reaction was. Committees send hundreds of letters a year to the administration, with most never receiving a response.
Calling a staffer to complain about a letter is virtually unheard of, particularly when the administration official played such a limited role in the letter.
Raskin laid out how Trump officials “reportedly pressured the Romanian government” to lift travel restrictions so that the Tate brothers could come to the United States. And then, with the brothers back on U.S. soil, “Andrew Tate allegedly assaulted his girlfriend Bri Stern in Los Angeles.”
“Recent text messages reportedly between Ms. Stern and Mr. Tate also revealed that Mr. Tate repeatedly told Ms. Stern he wanted to hit and beat her, saying Ms. Stern deserved it,” Raskin wrote.

In February, the Financial Times reported that the Trump administration was pushing Romania to lift the travel ban on the Tate brothers. And among Raskin’s questions Thursday was one asking about “the basis for the U.S. government’s involvement in encouraging Romania to lift the travel restrictions on Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate” and one asking “which U.S. officials communicated with Romanian officials regarding the Tate brothers, whether verbally or in writing, other than U.S. special envoy Richard Grenell?”
Grenell, a longtime Trump ally, is under consideration to be Trump’s new ambassador to the United Nations after the president pulled Rep. Elise Stefanik’s nomination last week.
In the first Trump administration, Grenell was acting director of national intelligence and served as ambassador to Germany. He is also currently the Kennedy Center’s president and interim executive director.
 

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Something to end the week on:
According to Murdered By Crayons the Tate brothers are now under federal investigation by the US Attorney's Office for the Southern Distric of New York and due to this the legal proceedings of Jane Doe versus Andrew and Tristan are now placed under seal:

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Edit: SDNY are the people who handled cases like Epstein, Diddy, El Chapo etc. Tate is now in the big leagues.
 
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Andrew's brother is not beating the brown muzzoid rapist allegations
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>"nuuu i-i'm not a woman abusing pedo rapist sex trafficker guis!!! now let me show you that by calling my accusers who have credible evidence such as public record, financial transactions, and my own admissions on public TV interviews "false accusers" and calling for them to get thrown into men's prisons so they can get raped again! lol feminist owned!111 :'( :'( :'("
 
These absolute scums making me want democrats to control everything again, this type of shit won’t fly on the old twitter and they will be still rotting in their prison cell.
I would be careful with this line of thinking.

This kind of reaction is what makes me think the Tate scum are purposefully being left free to further peddle their shit, so that their influence on "the youth" can be used as a red herring for the rise in male-on-female violence in the West. I first thought about this seeing the media circus around the recent Netflix series "Adolescence".

In other words, "14 screenshots of vile mysoginistic Tweets that will make you go 'fuck all males who are trying to be solid role-models and shiiiet'".
 
I would be careful with this line of thinking.

This kind of reaction is what makes me think the Tate scum are purposefully being left free to further peddle their shit, so that their influence on "the youth" can be used as a red herring for the rise in male-on-female violence in the West. I first thought about this seeing the media circus around the recent Netflix series "Adolescence".

In other words, "14 screenshots of vile mysoginistic Tweets that will make you go 'fuck all males who are trying to be solid role-models and shiiiet'".
I can unterstand @Dana scully's point of view, although I wouldn't want the Democrats getting back to power. This was just convenient for them. Don't forget the gender and Tanny stuff they are pushing.

One thing that is clear, is that there are very high ranking Republican politicians that have gone out of their way supporting/helping the tates. Them being able to go to the US and now Dubai squarly falls on the Trump administration. It wasn't facilitated by the Democrats.

Crazy that the Republicans (well, by far not all, seems to mostly be the MAGA ones) would be willing to accept such an L.

What a great thing it would have been to stand against, united as a country.
I think it's Republican retardation and most likely connections that resulted in the current situation. I don't think they are controlled by le left in any way.
 
For a long time I struggled pinpointing what was it about Tate and other manosphere people that gave me bad mojo about them and I think I finally have a word for it - they're pimps. Their outlook on women and the way they treat them is barely distinguishable from people that own women and use them like property. Except... they're passing that behavior unto young people, as if it's normal.

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The lifestyle they're advertising and describing to be as "trad" is basically just a 90s rap music video... mansions, sports cars, pools and scandalously dressed women that know their place and are always down for sex. Granted, the gap between 1995 and 2025 is 30 years now, big enough for there to be some sort of cultural divergence in one form or another, but it is incredibly surreal to see how something that used to be called "nigger behavior" by white men is now admired by them all over the world.
Holy shit bro? I cannot believe Andrew Tate is a violently misogynistic rapist who flashes his gaudy crap to fill the void where a soul should be. This is truly a visionary take
 
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"I have 10 children and they're pennies to raise" probably because Andrw isn't
the one fully financially responsible for them since he's a deadbeat nignog
What the hell happened to old conservatism that would openly decry such behavior as degenerate, instead of celebrating it?
 
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