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First off this was one company foxxcon at one factory in one country from 2009-2010 and the suicide rate for foxxcon and Chinese factory workers as a whole has plummeted. Second the third world has way lower suicide rates then the west and developed countries in Asia like China,japan and Korea third ceo's have a high suicide rate does that man they are oppressed to ?


Where did I say I was an occupy wall street dem ? Where did I defend hedge funds or even mention them
Ummm...you're chinese.
 
I want a third option. I hate apple and I hate google so bad that it amounts to no difference.. maybe I hate google a little worse as a company but hate their OS similarly

so weird, Canada in the china column. I wonder why we were so mean to them, our “best friends”
We live in the timeline where Mexico is more willing to work with us than our so called best friends in the North… fucking crazy shit man lol.
 
We live in the timeline where Mexico is more willing to work with us than our so called best friends in the North… fucking crazy shit man lol.
Consider this is all a make or break moment for Canada's national identity of being very much like America but disliking certain things because Americans like them.
 
Trump's administration is talking about cutting all HUD funding to sanctuary cities, and though that would affect a lot of people here legally, I see the necessity of it.

They only want HUD funds going to housing people here legally, and if they want to enforce that, they can't keep handing sacks of money to Democrat cities saying "This is only for people with the right to be here, promise?" while the Democrat mayors say with their fingers crossed behind their backs "Sure, sure, not that we'd tell you if they weren't here legally! Teehee!"
Yeah, you’re onto it. Trump wants to crush the “sanctuary city” rebellion and he has a mandate. He’s going to go hard, lots of people will think “but if he keeps doing it, we’ll lose the midterms!” and there will be bitching and moaning from weak willed republicans. We’ll see how far we can go.

What id love to see is a test case of a shopping mall somewhere locking down when the packs of feral niglets are running amok, just dropping their fucking portcullises and catching every last one of them then sentencing them to farm work in chains until their debt for damage and stealing is paid
 
It's not slave labor if they choose to do it which people in these countries do.
So it's a choice of work for next to nothing or starve and die of exposure? Nice illusion of choice you present there.
Factory jobs are desirable in the third world the job options are like famrer,miner fisherman which pay worst and are harder and pay worst.
Factory jobs are mostly sweatshops that pay next to nothing but also require no skill to gain employment. Other skilled jobs don't pay as well because the factory worker who needs your goods cannot afford it and you don't get paid as a result.
No one thinks paying people a fair wage is wrong,
If you agree with paying people a fair wage then why can't we do it here? Why encourage businesses to cut costs by not paying fair wages in America and outsourcing it to countries where it's cheaper because the wages are worse? Which is why they choose to outsource in the first place.
 
Libertarians are upset about tariffs because they interrupt free trade and are an economic violation of the NAP.
How was it "free trade" before when we were getting tariffed out the ass and just accepted it? Doesn't this issue go two ways? Libertarians really think free trade means everyone gets to impose crazy tariffs on the US, and the US can't react to that at all? This is why I'm so confused, the tariffs Trump is enforcing didn't just come out of nowhere, the US was being cheated and the Libertarians should be more aware of that than any other party but I guess holding todays libertarians to the standards of their very distant past is pretty nonsensical.
 
Factory jobs are mostly sweatshops that pay next to nothing but also require no skill to gain employment. Other skilled jobs don't pay as well because the factory worker who needs your goods cannot afford it and you don't get paid as a result.
Factory jobs are a wide range and you don’t seem to know much about them in reality.

You can get your foot in the door and make weird amounts of money with weird shift differentials, you can learn something from your experience and display general competency and find yourself qualified for non-entry level shit

Cnc machinist II takes 3-5 years to meet the requirement. That’s essentially a bachelor’s amount of time, but you have to learn actually useful things
 
It's not slave labor if they choose to do it which people in these countries do. Factory jobs are desirable in the third world the job options are like famrer,miner fisherman which pay worst and are harder and pay worst.

No one thinks paying people a fair wage is wrong, what defines a fair wage ? Trump is against raising minimum wage so I don't want to hear about a fair wage from him or his supporters.
What color boot is your favorite to lick?
 
Any person who thinks that Americans would be building shit in squalid sweat shop conditions is missing the fact that the reason Americans think we're better than everyone else is we've been trying to get away from those conditions. Quality > Quantity. I don't need a billion chinese shirts, i need a couple really nice ones. I don't need a collection of shoes, just a couple nice ones for specific tasks. It's the same shit over and over again.
I used to use mechanixwear gloves as my go to for shooting for example, but they're made like trash now and fall apart easily. Yet if you spend 4-5x more you can get a much better quality product made in America.
How about instead of paying 5x as much, we spend 2-3x as much, but we don't compete with trash, and instead of me having a series of low quality goods, I have a smaller series of high quality goods.
Also note that sweat shops are always shown making clothes. They never show off someone hand making a car in their garage, or some japanese craftsman making knives in the ancient style. Because those videos are actually praise, not criticism. Essential humanism in action. People want to make things, and they don't want to live a life of suffering. If you can't economically manage that, maybe you should be thrown off a bridge, and we try something else?
People who are currently hooked on buying Temu crap fail to understand how bad China really is.

China is the biggest exporter of counterfeit goods; there's a 50/50 chance those overpriced kicks and pricy handbags they're buying from legitimate sites are FAKE because China cheated the retailer, and only Nike and Louis Vuitton can tell if the product is real or fake a first sight. That's how good China is at counterfeiting.

But wait! There's more!! China does not have a problem with counterfeiting cheaper items either. They'll gladly sell fake pearls, fake jade, fake leather, and fake silk, because these are somewhat hard to distinguish from real, and a lot of people can't tell the difference. They like cheating in the costume jewelry market too; marketing jewelry as gold-plated silver at higher prices, and delivering low-quality gold-plated zinc. This scam is a favorite, because it's very hard to tell what a jewelry item is filled with, without badly damaging or destroying the item. They're big fans of selling cubic zirconia as much more expensive lab-created diamonds (moissanite). And if they get caught faking? Close their shops and open three new ones under different names, selling the same stuff.

Remember when the Chinese poisoned our dogs, cats, and infants by putting melamine in their food? I do, and most of the people who bought the tainted food had NO IDEA that it was made in China. And I don't think I need to talk about how they're poisoning some of us with fentanyl.

Let's not forget about the GROSS intellectual property theft either. A lot of the items that China uses to claim "Most Advanced Nation in the World!" status are made with stolen intellectual property, and made worse than the original due to shortcuts and shoddy workmanship.

These are unforgiveable things. We can't be trading partners with a country that rips us off so shamelessly, even to the point of PURPOSEFULLY KILLING US AND OUR PETS. We can't have it, not for any amount of discount.

And speaking of shameful displays, we really can't be trading partners with India either. Not until they close all the West Bengal call centers that are scamming American elderly. Sorry, but this complete lack of morals should disqualify India until they fix it.
 
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