David Steel / LazerPig / Ricewynd / Malquistion - Pathological Liar, Reddit Historian, Femboy Thirster, and Vore Connoisseur

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I'm not going to suffer through a Squire video but people in the comments on this one mention Lazerpig. I moused over the progress bar to see if he pops up anywhere and didn't see him which seems on brand for that fat pig.
 
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Watched lazerpig's "The First Tank" video and i can actually kind of see how he gained his popularity. It's only 15 minutes long, not bloated to high hell, he doesn't mention how many cocks he sucks once, and it's actually somewhat comedic. He does regurgitate some normie tier "facts" which lends credit to the idea he only does the most basic bitch research on any given topic and all that "I'm a real historian with a real degree" is a bunch of hot air he blows up his own ass.

He mentioned H.G Wells coming up with the idea of landships somehow completely missing the fact that H.G Wells, and pretty much every military officer and engineer at the time, got the idea from seeing civil war Ironclads . The landship committee was also set up specifically for the navy because they wanted to form detachments that could conduct amphibious style assaults and push well into land. When the idea turned out to be impractical it was eventually whittled to the program that produced the Mark I. Obviously he doesn't mention the parallel programms the french had as that would go against his brit-boo tank and armored warfare creation myth.

You might have noticed modern tanks don't look much like british WW1 tanks. That's because the british designs were generally quite shit. They didn't pioneer armored warfare as that would go to the Belgians who were the first to use armored cars in coordinated military operations, and they didn't really pioneer tank design either, that would have to go to the french with the Renault FT. An extremely prolific and effective tank that was endlessly copied in the interwar period. In fact most ww2 tanks track their origin to the Renault FT and the many domestic copies of it.

Much like the brits with football, they might have technically "invented" it but god they're fucking shit at it.
 
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BaldAndMorallyBankrupt said:
Watched lazerpig's "The First Tank" video and i can actually kind of see how he gained his popularity.
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I think some of his older videos still hold up. I can rewatch the initial Aerogavins video, and while I won't laugh as hard as I did the first time when knowing nothing about them, can still be reasonably entertained. If Lazerpig had been able to keep his faggotry under wraps he would easily have been the IH/Big Boss of milsperg YT.
 
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BaldAndMorallyBankrupt said:
You might have noticed modern tanks don't look much like british WW1 tanks. That's because the british designs were generally quite shit. They didn't pioneer armored warfare
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I don't want to shit the thread with off top very much, but I disagree- they did their job well as mobile machine gun emplacements, the role that tanks are still used for.
 
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BaldAndMorallyBankrupt said:
You might have noticed modern tanks don't look much like british WW1 tanks. That's because the british designs were generally quite shit. They didn't pioneer armored warfare as that would go to the Belgians who were the first to use armored cars in coordinated military operations, and they didn't really pioneer tank design either, that would have to go to the french with the Renault FT. An extremely prolific and effective tank that was endlessly copied in the interwar period. In fact most ww2 tanks track their origin to the Renault FT and the many domestic copies of it.
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Are you forgetting about the Whippet tanks which pioneered the concept of breakthrough tactics and how to use tanks to exploit holes in enemy lines for the infantry and slower tanks to push through behind you? (it's also why up to the MBT era we never used light, medium and heavy designations, instead cruiser and infantry, that's a holdover from the Whippets and Mothers)

And for being 'quite shit' designs, the world did however seem to love the Vickers 6-ton and the Centurion, two British designs which served, were bought, modified and sometimes copied by many nations all around the world.
 
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Mav52ri said:
Are you forgetting about the Whippet tanks which pioneered the concept of breakthrough tactics and how to use tanks to exploit holes in enemy lines for the infantry and slower tanks to push through behind you? (it's also why up to the MBT era we never used light, medium and heavy designations, instead cruiser and infantry, that's a holdover from the Whippets and Mothers)

And for being 'quite shit' designs, the world did however seem to love the Vickers 6-ton and the Centurion, two British designs which served, were bought, modified and sometimes copied by many nations all around the world.
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Mav52ri said:
Are you forgetting about the Whippet tanks which pioneered the concept of breakthrough tactics and how to use tanks to exploit holes in enemy lines for the infantry and slower tanks to push through behind you? (it's also why up to the MBT era we never used light, medium and heavy designations, instead cruiser and infantry, that's a holdover from the Whippets and Mothers)

And for being 'quite shit' designs, the world did however seem to love the Vickers 6-ton and the Centurion, two British designs which served, were bought, modified and sometimes copied by many nations all around the world.
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The idea of break-through and exploitation came from the cavalry and had been successfully used by motorcycle and armored car units before that. Cruiser tanks came from cruiser ships as a lot of early terminology and ideas came from the navy initially. The whippet itself was hardly as influential as you're trying to sell it. It came in late, saw some success, ultimately a neat foot note. The Vickers 6-tonne was outdated by the time it came out. The Centurion was probably the first good tank the brits made since the Crusader but it was hardly ground breaking. Essentially the designers had the benefit of hindsight aka 6 years of high intesity tank combat and multiple different allied nations developing their own designs and ideas in parallel that they could draw from.
 
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BaldAndMorallyBankrupt said:
The idea of break-through and exploitation came from the cavalry and had been successfully used by motorcycle and armored car units before that. Cruiser tanks came from cruiser ships as a lot of early terminology and ideas came from the navy initially. The whippet itself was hardly as influential as you're trying to sell it. It came in late, saw some success, ultimately a neat foot note. The Vickers 6-tonne was outdated by the time it came out. The Centurion was probably the first good tank the brits made since the Crusader but it was hardly ground breaking. Essentially the designers had the benefit of hindsight aka 6 years of high intesity tank combat and multiple different allied nations developing their own designs and ideas in parallel that they could draw from.
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Centurion is possibly the most overrated tank of all time. It has a lot of users, but most that was paid by the US and forced onto Western European countries under the Mutual Defense Assistance Act when they would have preferred the M47 or M48. Don't get me wrong, it works and its alright and it does have some neat things about it, mainly the two plane stabilizers, but its not very quick, its actually quite slow so much so that the Conqueror (yes the heavy tank) has a faster top speed and comparable acceleration, not that well armored, somewhat above average gun, quite primitive in terms of fire controls. It makes sense given that its a WW2 era design. Really, its reputation originates from its use with Israel against the Arab armies. And those centurions tended to be updated with American automotives and fire controls, and had the 105mm. And also because Arab armies weren't particularly competent.

But anyways, when Western Europeans or countries like Canada and Australia had the chance to replace the Centurion with say the Leopard, M48, or M60, they tended to jump on it quickly and replace the Centurions.
 
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Foltest said:
Sigh, when do we get a new video?
I want to see is talking about the pig and his content instead of whatever this is.
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Centurion is possibly the most overrated tank of all time. It has a lot of users, but most that was paid by the US and forced onto Western European countries under the Mutual Defense Assistance Act when they would have preferred the M47 or M48. Don't get me wrong, it works and its alright and it does have some neat things about it, mainly the two plane stabilizers, but its not very quick, its actually quite slow so much so that the Conqueror (yes the heavy tank) has a faster top speed and comparable acceleration, not that well armored, somewhat above average gun, quite primitive in terms of fire controls. It makes sense given that its a WW2 era design. Really, its reputation originates from its use with Israel against the Arab armies. And those centurions tended to be updated with American automotives and fire controls, and had the 105mm. And also because Arab armies weren't particularly competent.

But anyways, when Western Europeans or countries like Canada and Australia had the chance to replace the Centurion with say the Leopard, M48, or M60, they tended to jump on it quickly and replace the Centurions.
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To my knowledge, the only ones still using them in any serious numbers to this day are the South Africans (Oliphant), so yeah.

To be fair though, the Leo 1 and M60 came out like 20 years after.
 
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To my knowledge, the only ones still using them in any serious numbers to this day are the South Africans (Oliphant), so yeah.

To be fair though, the Leo 1 and M60 came out like 20 years after.
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The Olifants are so altered that the Centurion chassis it's originally on is more of a means to an end to carry more advanced optoelectronics and systems, etc when South Africa at the time had no real way to obtain newer tanks.

Those are newer but my point was that Centurion itself was dated and not that great and often abandoned quickly when the chance came around. Exception being Israel who needed all the tanks the could get and South Africa and like Sweden.
 
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