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Should be a wild four years.

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Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
Sorry to interrupt the regularly scheduled jewsperging, but if the Senate doesn't pass this, they are tacitly affirming that the Executive Branch has no real powers.

I sound like a broken record because I keep saying this, but we are seeing an absolute push by the left to utterly destroy the Executive Branch and make the President into a ceremonial position who has no power to issue effective EOs that do anything, or to hire or fire/ control policy and how money is spent by departments he supervises.

We are watching the Constitution and our government be transformed before our eyes. To use the clichéd Rome comparisons, this is like the transformation from the Republic to the Principate or the Orientalizing of the office of Emperor in Late Antiquity--massive changes to the government that occurred without a formal change to the government and under a fig leaf that it was the same government and nation.
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As a former OWS turbo lefty, it’s quite something to witness that even the hand-wringing surrounding the Constitution-busting powers granted to the Executive during the Patriot Act Era ended up being largely fake and gay.

Not that all that shit wasn’t a huge overreach. Not that it hasn’t been abused far beyond the scope of the WoT, including against citizens.

No, what makes it fake and gay is that it turns out these unitary Executive powers are only all-powerful when used in service of the uniparty. Honeypot some retarded Muslim teens into a fake terrorist plot, crank muh Threat Level to Plaid, black bag them and send them off to Gitmo torture? One news cycle of finger wagging. Kick occultist murdering rapist gang members out of the country? Judge Schmekle Gonzalez-Djibouti blocks your path.
 
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Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
I sound like a broken record because I keep saying this, but we are seeing an absolute push by the left to utterly destroy the Executive Branch and make the President into a ceremonial position who has no power to issue effective EOs that do anything, or to hire or fire/ control policy and how money is spent by departments he supervises.

We are watching the Constitution and our government be transformed before our eyes. To use the clichéd Rome comparisons, this is like the transformation from the Republic to the Principate or the Orientalizing of the office of Emperor in Late Antiquity--massive changes to the government that occurred without a formal change to the government and under a fig leaf that it was the same government and nation.
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Total Democrat and activist judge victory. We all know this won't pass. It won't be allowed to. The uniparty has come out on top for at least the past two decades and that's not stopping now.

But hey, at least we owned the libs epic style with facts and logic for about five seconds before they decided to just exterminate us for wrongthink!
 
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Orange_Juiche said:
As a former OWS turbo lefty, it’s quite something to witness that even the hand-wringing surrounding the Constitution-busting powers granted to the Executive during the Patriot Act Era ended up being largely fake and gay.

Not that all that shit wasn’t a huge overreach. Not that it hasn’t been abused far beyond the scope of the WoT, including against citizens.

No, what makes it fake and gay is that it turns out these unitary Executive powers are only all-powerful when used in service of the uniparty. Honeypot some retarded Muslim teens into a fake terrorist plot, crank muh Threat Level to Plaid, black bag them and send them off to Gitmo torture? One news cycle of finger wagging. Kick occultist murdering rapist gang members out of the country? Judge Schmekle Gonzalez-Djibouti blocks your path.
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Yeah, and the thing is, I never really was too hot on the idea of the Unitary Executive anyway. I'm torn because I personally support Trump's agenda, but I feel uncomfortable that he's doing things that if Biden or Obama did in opposite form with the same authority I'd be against.

The Judicial overreach seems to be taking a new form though in trying to scrub ALL the President's powers. Like you can make the argument that a lot of Trump's EOs are things that 50 years ago would have been the power of Congress. But if the President can't fire staffers in his Cabinet agencies, or decide to cancel programs they do because those agencies are funded by Congress, he really has no power.
 
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Total Democrat and activist judge victory. We all know this won't pass. It won't be allowed to. The uniparty has come out on top for at least the past two decades and that's not stopping now.

But hey, at least we owned the libs epic style with facts and logic for about five seconds before they decided to just exterminate us for wrongthink!
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Thank you for informing us of total democrat and activist judge failure and death, our beloved mascot.
 
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Funny because populist complained how the old system was propped up by slave labor in the third world to fuel cheap American goods
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Has anyone actually complained about that in the last 10 years? Once the Chinese dick sucking went into full effect people suddenly stopped caring about the state of those factories.
 
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Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
Yeah, and the thing is, I never really was too hot on the idea of the Unitary Executive anyway. I'm torn because I personally support Trump's agenda, but I feel uncomfortable that he's doing things that if Biden or Obama did in opposite form with the same authority I'd be against.

The Judicial overreach seems to be taking a new form though in trying to scrub ALL the President's powers. Like you can make the argument that a lot of Trump's EOs are things that 50 years ago would have been the power of Congress. But if the President can't fire staffers in his Cabinet agencies, or decide to cancel programs they do because those agencies are funded by Congress, he really has no power.
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The judiciary is due for a reckoning and I am glad that Roberts will be here to see his legacy crumble before him.
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Funny because populist complained how the old system was propped up by slave labor in the third world to fuel cheap American goods.
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The corporations realized they could earn far more by making people perpetually rent shit.
 
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Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
The Judicial overreach seems to be taking a new form though in trying to scrub ALL the President's powers. Like you can make the argument that a lot of Trump's EOs are things that 50 years ago would have been the power of Congress. But if the President can't fire staffers in his Cabinet agencies, or decide to cancel programs they do because those agencies are funded by Congress, he really has no power.
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When dems inevitably take back the White House you can bet your ass not a single conservative judge will learn from this and will just piss and whine about Democrats being the real racists while the president signs an EO giving people life sentences for saying trannies aren't women.
 
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I'm reading 'fight- inside the battle for the white house'
got to this part and thought it was funny
it was about trump going on podcasts or whatever
when his political team pitched it to him he was like 'should we do it? idk run it by barron and if he says okay we'll do it'
and then hung up on them without giving them barrons number
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funny bit about biden after he got forced out
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
You can't play ball with people who want you dead or broken at any cost.
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There is nothing stopping the good guys from doing the same thing, it is the right of the good and the just to smite evil in whatever form it takes.

It isnt for everyone and those who can are but a few, but in every age, and in every place the deeds of men remains the same.
 
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