DMZ ♀ Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

This thread is a DMZ (De-Moidified Zone) and is strictly for women. Men and trannies (men) shitting up the thread will be removed from the entire Lolcow Salon for a month.
“Excuse me, I cannot enjoy a video game unless I can commit rape in it.”
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Imagine being so brain rotted by culture wars that you can't separate violent porn consumption from gaming.
This all feels very reminiscent of the drama caused by the release of "RapeLay" way back in a day. The game... as the title suggests... was explicitly about sexual abuse, with one of the characters featured being underage, causing it to get banned in multiple countries and brought on such a massive shitstorm, you can't even purchase it via official distribution in Japan... yes, it was that bad.

However, unlike "No Mercy", I've never seen the internet going up and arms, trying to defend it... Probably because it all happened in the 2000s, before the culture war bs infected the internet. But it still feels so surreal for me to think about how if RapeLay were released today, a game that I distinctly remember being so universally panned, that even the people who liked it openly admitted to being fucked up for enjoying it, or used it for shock factor to scare people, would have an army of people defending it, that would equate places like the UK or Australia to authoritarian dictatorships, because they decided to ban a rape simulator. Like that would never fucking happen on 2009 internet, except select few anime obsessed image boards, because gamers were still struggling making society accept just regular military violence in games as normal.

The fact that "No Mercy" is met with so many defenders, while "RapeLay" had almost none at all, has a slightly disturbing implication that people are getting numbed to this sort of content. Give it 10 more years and rape simulators will be allowed on steam, or there will be a rise of some alternative gaming marketplace that will allow the distribution of that sort of thing.
 
To me, the fujoshi people just seem like a reaction to the fact that practically all Japanese porn (including real life stuff) is simulated rape where the women is either literally a child or acting like an actual toddler.

Japanese women have been told to change the word they use to say “no” because the common version is so often used in porn, men don’t listen to it anymore. There‘s no words to address how disgusting that is.

It just seems like escapism, they’re traumatised by how women are depicted in their media so they retreat to male figures together (because male is the gender neutral whether we like it or not, women are too fetishised to be neutral which would ruin the escapism). Idk I just always think of that Slatz tweet where she said teenagers are escaping into gay kpop fanfiction because they’re traumatised by the porn they saw as children. It’s just so obviously true. Same reason they chop their breasts off.

It’s a waste of time to get into the whole “I don’t like the other side either” because the people arguing it are bad faith. Address the criticisms matter of factly to handle the optics and make sure normies think critically, but that’s all. Don’t actually accept the premise of their argument where they pretend it’s equivalent. But for the record, there are some insane fujoshi’s out there that make my stomach turn with second-hand embarrassment. The cringe can be next level.
 
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“Excuse me, I cannot enjoy a video game unless I can commit rape in it.”
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Remember less than one month ago when penis bros were chimping out over the Chinese otome game Love & Deepspace because it was causing women to have unrealistic expectations and probably going to cause a societal collapse in China? And review bombing it on the app store because it wasn't for them? This is fine though. It's just a game created by moids, for moids who get off on the thought of raping women. Suck it up femoids!

South Korea has already shown that it's possible to have a birth rate of 0.75. It's time for the rest of the world to follow their example.
 
Just a question, I might get thread banned but do the ladies have a cycle like men have from "hating women during the day" to "loving women during the night"? Some sort love-hate scenario or pure 24 hour disgust and a chalant look at us, with dead eyes staring in our souls hoping we fuck off?
I can't answer your question, since my opinions are probably so different from the other women in this thread, but what do you mean by "loving women during the night"? Actually loving and respecting women and treating them like people, or just having sex with them/getting off to them? I'm pretty sure the reason why women like romance is because men can detachedly use anything to get off, so it's not inherently loving for a man to simply express a desire to bang you. I wouldn't say you love women if you degrade them during the day and then sexually degrade them at night. If this is a metaphor, I might be taking it too literally.

EDIT: Only just realised I sounded very "not like the other girls", my bad, that was not what I meant at all. I just don't want to step on the toes of women far wiser/more worldly than myself, especially as a fresh newfag.
 
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I can't answer your question, since my opinions are probably so different from the other women in this thread, but what do you mean by "loving women during the night"? Actually loving and respecting women and treating them like people, or just having sex with them/getting off to them? I'm pretty sure the reason why women like romance is because men can detachedly use anything to get off, so it's not inherently loving for a man to simply express a desire to bang you. I wouldn't say you love women if you degrade them during the day and then sexually degrade them at night. If this is a metaphor, I might be taking it too literally.

EDIT: Only just realised I sounded very "not like the other girls", my bad, that was not what I meant at all. I just don't want to step on the toes of women far wiser/more worldly than myself, especially as a fresh newfag.
I think @Bluewhalechampion was referring to this kind of meme
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It is this anecdotal observation that guys during the day hang out with other guys and go "women, amairight? He he he, who needs them", but then, late at night, either after sitting in silence with their thoughts long enough (or after the post-nut clarity hits) their brain goes full simp mode "oh god, I want somebody to cuddle with SOOOO BAAAAD".

So what he's asking is... do you women from the thread also have these moments where you go "men, amairight? He he he, who needs them", but then, later on, get overwhelmed with a crushing existential dread of loneliness, physiologically longing for a romantic and physical connection that just doesn't seem possible, which makes you feel like you are going to die alone, but then you start imagining all sorts of scenarios of starting a family, raising children and cheerfully growing old with your partner, which causes you to feel even more sad and lonely than before, and it continues spiraling until you start crying or randomly talk with your close friends in discord VC at midnight or fall asleep?

Not gonna pretend that this sort of longing for affection is always the romanticized and "clean" version as seen in the above memes, sometimes it can be very dirty, but... needless to say, it becomes apparent that this desire for a masculine image of dominance and stoic display of emotions can utterly shatter post 10 pm.

 
"loving women during the night"
Masturbating to the same e-thots you shit on during the day is not "loving women", champ. Neither is wasting thousands of dollars on commissions with your favourite animu waifus, who are not real, by the way.

Men seem to have a problem where sex always equals love in their minds. I thought you'd learn the drastic difference between the two by the time you're 18, but here we are. Maybe it's because men's brains aren't developed enough to experience feelings towards women that are more complicated than me horny, me likey:)/me not horny, no likey :mad:. But lust is a fleeting feeling. So when it's gone, there's nothing left but contempt and resentment towards the humans they've never tried to understand.

As for your question, I'm just indifferent to men irl. I don't know them all that well, so there's no point in raging at them just because they're there. Fictional men are my comfort food because a) they look like they care about their appearance and fashion, and b) unlike their real-life counterparts, they actually like their female partners as people and protect them. Oh well, that is why they are called female fantasy, such unattainable standards.
 
Men seem to have a problem where sex always equals hate in their minds.
IFIFY

moids do not respect or love women if they have sex with them. they think less of them because they know how disgusting they themselves are. it’s why literally almost every single one masturbates to violent rape pornography.
 
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It's not a cycle and it depends, what time of the day I get my daily reminder that ''I don't want to live on this planet anymore''.
I can't hate particular men in my life at night and like them in the daytime and such. Either I hate someone, or I like them, or I don't really feel anything regardless of day time. Being mad at someone or being annoyed by them sometimes =/= hatred. Hatred comes, when they continue that behaviour.
 
So what he's asking is... do you women from the thread also have these moments where you go "men, amairight? He he he, who needs them", but then, later on, get overwhelmed with a crushing existential dread of loneliness, physiologically longing for a romantic and physical connection that just doesn't seem possible, which makes you feel like you are going to die alone, but then you start imagining all sorts of scenarios of starting a family, raising children and cheerfully growing old with your partner, which causes you to feel even more sad and lonely than before, and it continues spiraling until you start crying or randomly talk with your close friends in discord VC at midnight or fall asleep?

Thank you for explaining this. The explanation, funnily enough, does not change my initial reaction to the question, which was: No? The fuck are you blithering about?

I have never experienced any cycle of hating and then liking men. Like @YWNBAM my general feeling is mostly indifference. There is a moid at work who is a sexist dickhead who annoys me. A few times a week I am alone with a male window cleaner or a delivery man and I assess him for his immediate safety risk to me. Sometimes a man winks at me or says something out of the ordinary and I wonder what his deal is. But most of the time my reaction to men is "huh, well you're there". I have a generally low opinion of men and their abilities and a dim view of their general approach to women, which low level hums around my consciousness more or less permanently; this is the result of experience. But anything cyclical, let alone one thing by day and one thing at night? That sounds skitzo, frankly.
 
Masturbating to the same e-thots you shit on during the day is not "loving women", champ. Neither is wasting thousands of dollars on commissions with your favourite animu waifus, who are not real, by the way.

Men seem to have a problem where sex always equals love in their minds. I thought you'd learn the drastic difference between the two by the time you're 18, but here we are. Maybe it's because men's brains aren't developed enough to experience feelings towards women that are more complicated than me horny, me likey:)/me not horny, no likey :mad:. But lust is a fleeting feeling. So when it's gone, there's nothing left but contempt and resentment towards the humans they've never tried to understand.

As for your question, I'm just indifferent to men irl. I don't know them all that well, so there's no point in raging at them just because they're there. Fictional men are my comfort food because a) they look like they care about their appearance and fashion, and b) unlike their real-life counterparts, they actually like their female partners as people and protect them. Oh well, that is why they are called female fantasy, such unattainable standards.
Just like men them...hmmm. It's kali yuga after all...
It's not a cycle and it depends, what time of the day I get my daily reminder that ''I don't want to live on this planet anymore''.
I can't hate particular men in my life at night and like them in the daytime and such. Either I hate someone, or I like them, or I don't really feel anything regardless of day time. Being mad at someone or being annoyed by them sometimes =/= hatred. Hatred comes, when they continue that behaviour.
This answered my question, the usual degenerate stuff that men do and promote is indeed blackpilling

Thank you ladies hope you have a wonderful day.
 
For married men who i talk to, they hate their wives in the morning but will be glad to see them in the evening, realising how much they have won.
Sounds more like these men hate their wives in general but acknowledge their usefulness as emotional support animals after a hard day at work. Boy am I glad I got one of those stupid wahmens when I had the chance, now my house is always clean and so is my dick, hur dur!

And when these women bring them divorse papers, same dudes will act as if they never saw it coming.

I watched the example videos and they had a similar vibe. The women that men claim to love being animu waifus in a relationship with them is just the icing on the cake.

The Helltaker one really made me gag though. You might call me a hypocrite because I also mentioned that I like fictional men, but the difference here is that I like them as part of a relationship with a female character I also like and a part of the story's world. I don't want to fuck pixels, and I wouldn't pursue those guys even if they were real, because the appeal would be lost. There are also crazy women who screech autistically about wanting to fuck, say, a bloody Sonic the Hedgehog, but I think it's men who are more prone to being extremely aggressive yumes. It's embarrassing, really. Why the hell would you proclaim your love for an anime creature made by a Polish man? Why do you focus so much on anal sex and being a sub? You big-ass shizo homo.
 
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But anything cyclical, let alone one thing by day and one thing at night? That sounds skitzo, frankly.
Maybe it's not necessarily cyclical and skitzo (or only appears so on the surface), maybe it could be that us men are raised to bottle up our emotions and feelings and the only acceptable sort of emotion we can express publicly without being seen as "effeminate" is annoyance, hornyness and smugness (I mean fuck, look at how smug my and Whale's pfps look!). Excitement, happiness, sadness, disgust, etc. are only permissible to be publicly displayed under certain circumstances, which for some... may not arise for an extended period of time, particularly negative emotions, which can lead to situations where men either start snapping emotionally in private, use substances like alcohol as a coping mechanism, or just become depressed (explaining the high suicide rates compared to the female sex).
 
maybe it could be that us men are raised to bottle up our emotions and feelings and the only acceptable sort of emotion we can express publicly without being seen as "effeminate" is annoyance, hornyness and smugness
Wow maybe you men should stop calling each other faggots for showing emotion and obsessing over dominating each other then. But it seems you are pretty content with things being that way, high suicide rates and all, so masculine and adult-like :)
 
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Notice how even when men try to make "positive" content or content that they perceive as being positive about women it always, always features them negging down women one way or another. Whether it's these memes that were posted here as an example or the whole wifejak where men were depicting their wives as dumb klutz support characters for having quirky habits or saying a basic statement/asking a question.

There's nothing really endearing or "wholesome" about these memes and mindset at all. This is just pure male BPD behavior condensed into a meme and proof that men will never ever be satisfied no matter what results they get and the end results of that will be them always resenting women. They resent women for not wanting to their partners and companions, but also they also resent women when they're with them because they expose how lonely these men's lives are without women and how much they rely on them for basically everything while also exposing the truth that despite endless shilling of male bonds/solidarity they cannot be fully honest with fellow men when it comes to their own emotions.

What is there endearing about a man telling his wife/girlfriend that he hates her and women like her for just existing? What is there charming about a man declaring his resentment towards a woman so he can receive 50 wholesome gender euphoria points from his male reddit entourage only for him to be crawling back to woman's arms for comfort and love without even thinking if she's hurt by his statements? Why would any sane woman want to be with a man that hates her and her kind during specific time of the day and when she can be with somebody that would be happy to see her and be with her no matter what time of the day is?

There's a difference between "Yeah me and my wife despite having rough patches and being at odds at some times love each other and would die for one another" and "LOL WAHMEN ARE SO DUMB YAAAAAAAAAH I AM WARHAMMER SPACE MARINE YAAAH BUT ALSO PLEASE PLEASE BABYGIRL CUDDLE ME BENEATH MY GAY STOICISM I'M A POOR SWEET LITTLE LAMPCHOP THAT HAS TO FACE HARDSHIPS OF THE WORLD"


Frankly, I'm tired of seeing men gaslighting women into thinking they're humorless killjoys because they're not too fond of their husbands/boyfriends saying how much they hate them only to do this "I'm akshually a very vulnerable boy that loves you" bullshit schitck and condescending compassion/benevolent sexism repackaged as "humor", because you know for a fact that if women made similar memes and content to this, the insecure men who create these types of memes would have a Chernobyl tier nuclear chimpout and call women psychopathic for it. Men argue that these memes are "just ironic" but fail to understand why this isn't a good thing either. Irony is a language of emotionally stunted people who are either afraid of being sincere with themselves and given that most men are afraid of being sincere because they operate under the "being sincere/honest bad but being an ironyfag le good" it's very safe to say most of men are irony-poisoned chimps.
 
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Maybe it's not necessarily cyclical and skitzo (or only appears so on the surface),
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maybe it could be that us men are raised to bottle up our associate emotions and feelings with femininity which is bad and inferior and the only acceptable sort of emotion we can choose to express publicly without because being seen as "effeminate" is bad and inferior because we fucking HATE women and we all tacitly agree on that point are annoyance, hornyness and smugness (I mean fuck, look at how smug my and Whale's pfps look!).
I see. I recommend suicide.
Excitement, happiness, sadness, disgust, etc. are only permissible chosen of your own free will and volition, to maintain your superiority vs. Women, no matter the cost even to your own emotonal and mental health, because the benefits of patriarchy are more valuable to you than being a fully realized human being, to be publicly displayed under certain circumstances, which for some... may not arise for an extended period of time, particularly negative emotions, which can lead to situations where men either start snapping emotionally in private, use substances like alcohol as a coping mechanism, or just become depressed (explaining the high suicide rates compared to the female sex). and then kill themselves instead of seeking help like the much greater number of depresssed women manage to do, which is why they actually die less from suicide than stupid moids.
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of accountability. Every choice they make is society's fault. Un fucking real.
 
Frankly, I'm tired of seeing men gaslighting women into thinking they're humorless killjoys because they're not too fond of their husbands/boyfriends saying how much they hate them only to do this "I'm akshually a very vulnerable boy that loves you" bullshit schitck and condescending compassion/benevolent sexism repackaged as "humor", because you know for a fact that if women made similar memes and content to this, the insecure men who create these types of memes would have a Chernobyl tier nuclear chimpout and call women psychopathic for it. Men argue that these memes are "just ironic" but fail to understand why this isn't a good thing either. Irony is a language of emotionally stunted people who are either afraid of being sincere with themselves and given that most men are afraid of being sincere because they operate under the "being sincere/honest bad but being an ironyfag le good" it's very safe to say most of men are irony-poisoned chimps.
Even a good joke ceases to be funny after being repeated several times, let alone those which are only cringe, tiresome and eye roll-inducing to begin with.
You think I am boring, cos I don't find your woman-hate reframed as humor or sarcasm funny? Faggot, this ancient shit about women being so irrational was beaten to death even before the written history begun.
 
Maybe it's not necessarily cyclical and skitzo (or only appears so on the surface), maybe it could be that us men are raised to bottle up our emotions and feelings and the only acceptable sort of emotion we can express publicly without being seen as "effeminate" is annoyance, hornyness and smugness (I mean fuck, look at how smug my and Whale's pfps look!). Excitement, happiness, sadness, disgust, etc. are only permissible to be publicly displayed under certain circumstances, which for some... may not arise for an extended period of time, particularly negative emotions, which can lead to situations where men either start snapping emotionally in private, use substances like alcohol as a coping mechanism, or just become depressed (explaining the high suicide rates compared to the female sex).
Garbage.

I can think of exactly one man I have ever known who truly (mostly) experiences this throttling of emotion, and even he isn't hateful of women specifically (he kind of hates most people in general). He is also mid/late 40s, has killed-or-be-killed in war (and I don't mean games, but I do mean killed), and was dreadfully abused as a child (by his mother, mind you; dad, of course, was nowhere to be found).

The other 99.999% of men I've known in my half-century on earth, in every context, have no problem tearing up, jumping for joy, etc.

And even that guy I mentioned has choked up talking about certain things with me. I will also add that that guy, who hates every fucking thing and is as classic old-skool and alpha as it comes, would and has beat the tar out of a man many men, but would never hit a woman. Even in self-defense. Not his bone-breaking, skull-fracturing mother, and not his emasculating and emotionally and physically abusive wife, who is a tornado of a person you'd never want to meet.

Well, correction: he'd kill anyone who threatened or physically harmed his kids...or probably anyone else, if he were there to see it. And yet as emotionally arrested as he is, he has no use for expressions of smugness or horniness. Earnest to the nth degree, even if a simmering volcano just looking for an excuse.

Tl; dr: This is a bullshit, lazy, made-up effort at an excuse to be a pos.

And if you think women feel no societal pressure to keep their shit together, to temper their emotions, and to endure hardship and unfairness without breaking down or buckling under, you are absolutely deluded and 180 degrees wrong.

spiraling until you start crying or randomly talk with your close friends in discord VC at midnight or fall asleep?
Get tf off discord.

But fr: everything in the paragraph before what I just snipped is you (the theoretical you, I guess) just getting twisted up in your own poor-me. Save your deep thoughts for things that really matter: learn shit, do shit. Stop mentally circling your navel and you'll stop mentally circling the drain.
 
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