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Should be a wild four years.

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From a libertarian perspective how are tariffs any different then any other tax they are just as much theft

From a libertarian perspective how an you support Trump as his plan to reshore manufacturing requires so much government oversight.

If your not a libertarian and you support sacrificing in the short term for the same of making America stronger why are you against say raising the income tax to pay down debts and more economic planning ?
 
I didn't respond to your first reply nor can I really reply now because I fundamentally think your premise is foolish or not based in reality.
"What would you have done to not lead to this with the circumstances that existed at the time" is as rooted in reality as you can get. But thank you for at least elaborating even if it's still circular "We don't have to care about what the voters think" When the fact the voter's aren't thinking about the yids is the problem.
 
From a libertarian perspective how are tariffs any different then any other tax they are just as much theft

From a libertarian perspective how an you support Trump as his plan to reshore manufacturing requires so much government oversight.

If your not a libertarian and you support sacrificing in the short term for the same of making America stronger why are you against say raising the income tax to pay down debts and more economic planning ?
I’d rather have a tax on sales and tariffs. I’d rather get my money and spend it how I wish. It’s easier to minimize my taxes by minimizing my spending and I’d rather be able to keep more of my money and save it up.
 
We already knew you were a retard but thank you for confirming it for the class.
I am not a libertarian I am a third position national socialist

but thunderdomers constantly appeal to libertarian principles on a free market and taxation being theft so that implies being a libertarian or at least having libertarian leanings which I want to interrogate

I’d rather have a tax on sales and tariffs. I’d rather get my money and spend it how I wish. It’s easier to minimize my taxes by minimizing my spending and I’d rather be able to keep more of my money and save it up.
right, but tariffs inflate the cost of the whole economy even if you stay to the bare essentials the market distortion tariffs cause compared to income tax hits harder. Especially if you are a low-middle income earner who gets most of their income tax money back in returns anyways.
 
Old habits die hard. Can't kids just do it as like a summer job or something? It's better than giving it to Pablo.
Problem is farmers refuse to pay a good wage for this kind of work so they just hire essentially slave labor, and I'm not talking about the small farmers out in the countryside those men basically do it all on their own or with family, this is the big multiple thousands of acres fag that's trying to save pennies on the dollar. Democrats just can't have their soybeans without some form of slavery.
 
Problem is farmers refuse to pay a good wage for this kind of work so they just hire slaves, and we're not talking about the small farmers out in the countryside those men basically do it all on their own or with family, this is the big multiple thousands of acres fag that's trying to save pennies on the dollar.
Well they refuse to pay a good wage because they have slaves. Simply restrict that access.
 
Actually not true at all, social engineering is by far the biggest reason anything gets hacked. Instead of trying to brute force something it's much much easier to trick someone into giving you credentials by mistake. Whether that be through an email or in person, in fact you'd be shocked by how easy it is in person, all you need is an rfid copier and someone to give you their badge even for a second and viola, full blown access to critical structures.
This is a post so true that I need to do more than just put a Winner stamp on it. Most of the "hacking" Kevin Mitnick did was just social engineering to make absolute fucking retards give him secure information just by saying the right words.
 
Well they refuse to pay a good wage because they have slaves. Simply restrict that access.
Oh I 100% agree but it's not going to be that simple congress would never pass something like that? Do you know how much they get lobbied by big farming industries? Until shit like lobbying is completely banned forever a lot of really good changes are literally impossible to make.
 
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From a libertarian perspective how are tariffs any different then any other tax they are just as much theft

From a libertarian perspective how an you support Trump as his plan to reshore manufacturing requires so much government oversight.

If your not a libertarian and you support sacrificing in the short term for the same of making America stronger why are you against say raising the income tax to pay down debts and more economic planning ?
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Oh I 100% agree but it's not going to be that simple, congress would never pass something like that you know how much they get lobbied by big farming industries. Until shit like lobbying is completely banned forever a lot of really good changes are literally impossible to make.
Either every politician has to list who had been lobbying them on their suits like they're Nascar drivers or total lobbyist death
 
The reason people are against the tariffs, is because the messaging around the tariffs has been completely inconsistent. At first, Trump called it “Liberation Day,” claiming the goal was to free America from dependence on foreign trade. Now, the narrative has shifted to say it's about securing better trade deals—but most people don’t see those deals as worth the economic pain we’ve already endured. Worse, it’s still unclear what tangible benefits we’re supposed to gain from all of this, if anything at all.
 
Well they refuse to pay a good wage because they have slaves. Simply restrict that access.
If we let all the able-bodied welfare recipients do farm work and keep the money without cutting their benefits, there would be plenty of farm workers. The thing that sucks about farm work is that it isn't a year-round job for most workers. Welfare recipients won't mind being laid off half the year if they still get gibs. Seasonal farm work should count as the work requirement for EBT and other programs too. Do both of those things, and we'd have plenty of citizen farm workers. They'd have to be paid minimum wage though, not piece rate, so the farmers will bitch and struggle and try to sabotage the program so they can get their slaves back
 
The reason people are against the tariffs, is because the messaging around the tariffs has been completely inconsistent. At first, Trump called it “Liberation Day,” claiming the goal was to free America from dependence on foreign trade. Now, the narrative has shifted to say it's about securing better trade deals—but most people don’t see those deals as worth the economic pain we’ve already endured. Worse, it’s still unclear what tangible benefits we’re supposed to gain from all of this, if anything at all.
Can you explain the tangible benefits of the status quo?
 
The reason people are against the tariffs, is because the messaging around the tariffs has been completely inconsistent. At first, Trump called it “Liberation Day,” claiming the goal was to free America from dependence on foreign trade. Now, the narrative has shifted to say it's about securing better trade deals—but most people don’t see those deals as worth the economic pain we’ve already endured. Worse, it’s still unclear what tangible benefits we’re supposed to gain from all of this, if anything at all.
A: Getting a better deal and freeing America from dependance on foreign trade are the same thing.
B: Nobody has endured any economic pain other than wall street executives jerking each other off.
C: Tangible benefits will take time. This isn't one of your bdsm gooning sessions where you're given a constant drip of reward chemicals. Let the adults handle things.
 
The reason people are against the tariffs, is because the messaging around the tariffs has been completely inconsistent. At first, Trump called it “Liberation Day,” claiming the goal was to free America from dependence on foreign trade. Now, the narrative has shifted to say it's about securing better trade deals—but most people don’t see those deals as worth the economic pain we’ve already endured. Worse, it’s still unclear what tangible benefits we’re supposed to gain from all of this, if anything at all.
What pain? Please list the purchased items you have already paid a tariff on. Did you rush out and buy a Chinese car at 145% markup?
 
Like with a samurai sword or a tiny little squirrel guillotine?
Yeah, they specifically make rodent guillotines for that purpose.
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https://www.wpiinc.com/var-2645-rodent-guillotine.html
The definitive test for rabies in a wild animal is done by decapitation, and there is even a tool made for the job, as unbelievable as that sounds. The tool is called the "decapitation guillotine" and it looks just like it sounds. The really hard-to-believe part is that it is made by an outfit called --wait for it -- "Animal Care." A guillotine! The sales pitch is as follows:

"When it is necessary to remove the head of a rabies-suspect cadaver, our decapitation Guillotine does the job safely, cleanly, and easily. Features a screw-type mechanism that slowly lowers a cutting blade. Opening is 10"Wx14"H. Heavy steel construction then powder-coated. This is the only guillotine we know of that assures complete operator safety and gets the job done right."
https://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2005/01/raccoons-rabies-decapitation.html
Actual picture from the article:
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