US Trump Administration Classifies 6,000 Latino Immigrants as 'Dead' So They Will 'Self-Deport' - Dead illegals pay no withholding tax

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The Social Security Administration has entered the names of over 6,300 mostly Latino immigrants into a database that tracks people who have died, according to The New York Times, The Washington Post and CBS News.

The Trump administration is targeting immigrants who have Social Security numbers but have lost their legal status in the U.S. — including those who entered under former President Joe Biden’s temporary work programs. This prevents those impacted from being able to receive Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment insurance, federal loans or other benefits.

President Donald Trump “promised mass deportations and by removing the monetary incentive for illegal aliens to come and stay, we will encourage them to self-deport,” Elizabeth Huston, a White House spokeswoman, said in a statement, per The Washington Post. “He is delivering on his promise he made to the American people."

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem requested that the federal agency put pressure on undocumented immigrants to leave the country. More specifically, Noem and Leland Dudek, the acting Social Security commissioner, signed two memorandums of agreement on Monday, April 7, per The Washington Post.

Now, under the Social Security Act, the administration has named living immigrants in the “Death Master File” for national security reasons, an official said, per The Washington Post. The “Death Master File” database has records of more than 85 million deaths dating back to 1936.

An agency employee said that once listed as deceased in the database, their Social Security benefits would immediately terminate, and ultimately, would make them unidentifiable and cause problems with employment.

It will also permit the Commerce Department to mistakenly report that the immigrants have died on their own death database. As a result, it will lead institutions to sever relationships with listed immigrants, and not be included on lists to banks, mortgage companies and employers.

Twenty-two people listed in the 6,300 are receiving student loans, 41 are collecting unemployment insurance and 1,000 are collecting benefits through Medicaid, a White House official said, per The Washington Post.

This newly announced tactic adheres to the Trump administration’s aggressive campaign to force undocumented immigrants out of the U.S. A White House official told The Washington Post that the administration will next target 92,000 undocumented immigrants who have a criminal conviction on the death database, and then eventually add undocumented immigrants without criminal histories.

The recent developments follow Elon Musk's efforts with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to implement major changes at the Social Security Administration.

Musk has previously said that Social Security is a “Ponzi scheme.” He claimed in a Fox Business interview on March 10 that “there’s a massive amount of fraud of, basically, people submitting Social Security numbers for Social Security benefits, unemployment, Small Business Administration loans and medical care.” The billionaire entrepreneur added, “We’re trying to put a stop to all of that."

“If you want to know what DOGE is doing at Social Security, this is it,” a White House official said, per The Washington Post.

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It follows the Tuesday, April 8, agreement between Homeland Security and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), in which the IRS will give tax data it maintains for undocumented immigrants to Homeland Security.

Additionally, last week, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services gave the Social Security Administration a database of 800,000 people with final deportation orders.

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A representative for the Social Security Administration did not immediately respond to PEOPLE's request for more information on Thursday.
 
It will also permit the Commerce Department to mistakenly report that the immigrants have died on their own death database. As a result, it will lead institutions to sever relationships with listed immigrants, and not be included on lists to banks, mortgage companies and employers.
No more Gibs for you.

lol. Mistakenly.
 
It will also permit the Commerce Department to mistakenly report that the immigrants have died on their own death database. As a result, it will lead institutions to sever relationships with listed immigrants, and not be included on lists to banks, mortgage companies and employers.
Uh isn't that crossing the legal line into actual fraud? I mean claiming someone is actually dead when you know for a fact they're not, given the legalities and shit that effects. Not to mention creating a situation where insurance companies and banks and all that might be justified in questioning the accuracy of death claims of everyone in that database and refuse to pay out claims and such, pending a shitshow of an investigation. I can absolutely see some shady corporate lawyers pulling that to deliberately create a paperwork nightmare to fuck people out of claims for a few years
 
Now, under the Social Security Act, the administration has named living immigrants in the “Death Master File” for national security reasons, an official said, per The Washington Post. The “Death Master File” database has records of more than 85 million deaths dating back to 1936.
Who needs the Death Note when you have the Death Master File?
 
Uh isn't that crossing the legal line into actual fraud? I mean claiming someone is actually dead when you know for a fact they're not, given the legalities and shit that effects.
No it isn't. These people aren't entitled to a social security number. They aren't entitled to the benefits it provides. For all intents and purposes, their identity as a citizen is dead or invalid. Just like a deceased person. There is no value in maintaining a separate list of revoked SSNs and no other realistic way to alert banks and other institutions about the removal of status.
Not to mention creating a situation where insurance companies and banks and all that might be justified in questioning the accuracy of death claims of everyone in that database and refuse to pay out claims and such,
pending a shitshow of an investigation. I can absolutely see some shady corporate lawyers pulling that to deliberately create a paperwork nightmare to fuck people out of claims for a few years
This is not possible. They are required by law to check that list, their opinion on its accuracy are irrelevant.
 
Another dumbass plan from this demented jackass. If they're "dead", you can't track them in any active domestic financial or governmental systems whatsoever.
They/their family still have addresses, cell phones, and credit cards.

They’re criminals. It’s not as if the government can only see you if you’re paying income tax.
 
Netizennameless said:
No it isn't. These people aren't entitled to a social security number. They aren't entitled to the benefits it provides. For all intents and purposes, their identity as a citizen is dead or invalid. Just like a deceased person. There is no value in maintaining a separate list of revoked SSNs and no other realistic way to alert banks and other institutions about the removal of status.
Nobody is saying they are entitled to a SSN if they are not citizens. But they are, citizen or otherwise, entitled not to be fraudulently reported as dead given the legal issues it causes for everybody involved and the fact its knowingly being done in a fraudulent manner. There is a value in having such separate lists as dead people and people who have had their SSN revoked for whatever reason are two very different groups of people with a shit ton of legal headaches that come with it

Not to mention you're creating a situation where you make it impossible to issue warrants, prosecute or legally deport them. In the US a person cannot have a warrant issued against them, be arrested or be prosecuted so long as they are considered legally dead, among a ton of other things. Before you can do so a court must declare that person to be alive. How exactly does one deport anyone legally without a court order and a hearing? One they can't have under those circumstances. Deportations do have certain legal requirements after all

Keep in mind in these situations the police are required to investigate, to confirm whether or not the person is alive and if so, notify the DA, who provides the relevant info to a judge, who issues an order that the person is in fact not legally dead. Until then nobody can legally do shit to them. This would have the effect of legally nullifying any of the governments official claims about those people being dead. Which means all the government is doing here is creating a legal shitshow that if anything works to the considerable benefit of the illegals they are trying to deport

Netizennameless said:
This is not possible. They are required by law to check that list, their opinion on its accuracy are irrelevant.
This is objectively not true. If they're forced to refer to such a list then they are well within their rights to point to it and say 'we're not paying out a thing to anyone until you can prove the list of dead people refers to people who are actually provably dead' and make it a court matter. Good luck forcing anyone to do anything with a list they can prove has deliberately inaccurate information in it. They cannot be forced to pay out anything if they have any reason to believe that the list is not accurate. They can absolutely demand proof that it is. They can not be forced to do anything by law based on information they can point to and say 'we know for a fact this is not accurate information' particularly when that information is vital to doing their job properly

This is setting the government up for a legal shitshow. The government is well within its rights to cancel SSN that are being used illegally, but declaring people legally dead is another can of worms entirely that has a bunch of consequences that go along with it. As stated above. You're crossing the line into knowingly committing fraud if you're making such claims about people you know are not actually dead. Not to mention the US, like all countries per international law, is required to provide lists of foreign nationals who are known to have died in the US to their respective nations. So either they're not going to do that in these cases - which would be illegal, or they would not differentiate between actual dead people and illegals who were not dead, which would mean they were sending false information to foreign countries about their dead citizens, which could cause all kinds of legal problems for them, fuck up tax payments to their governments and everything else that gets stopped for dead people. Those governments will not be pleased about that

This whole situation screams of not being thought through to its logical conclusion

Buttigieg2020 said:
If arrested, they are allowed to request a trial, paid for by taxes.

If they leave on their own, that costs nothing.
Which the cops can't do to someone legally declared to be dead. So the reality is nothing happens for weeks or months until the shitshow gets through the courts to declare the person legally alive so a warrant can be issued. Then they get arrested and tried. All this does is make a bigger, more expensive clusterfuck out of the situation and does so in a manner that is likely to be incredibly beneficial to the illegals affected by it. Lawyers and civil rights groups will have a field day with it
 
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