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Should be a wild four years.

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"Would you rather be wrong and loved, or right and alone?
I'd much rather be right and alone than to go along with any of the wacko shit the left enforces. This is no different than what employers would say during covid "would you rather be wrong and employed or right and destitute?"
 
No new info in this post. No new thoughts. But hey, can still post whiny complaints.

I think I'm tired of dumbfuck doomers.
It is a much better thread if you just ignore the doomposting retards. Once you read a couple hundred pages you get a feel for who's actually doomposting and who's just concerned. The worst thing you can do though is to engage with the same dude that has been doomposting for months, it derails the thread and that's their goal.
Big difference from folks being really pissed at something trump did, the Gaza plan shit was one time the thread was rightfully pissed.
 
I mean honestly if someone watched/listened to Trump when he did the Theo Vaugn podcast this wouldn’t be a surprising take away. I think Trump is aware of how likable he can come off in small interactions; and it helps that he plays the extreme everywhere else because it sets the bar rather low. If Bill Maher thought he was a somewhat normal approachable guy he wouldn’t be so flabbergasted that he is an approachable guy.
One thing that frustrated me so much about trump when I was still a raging liberal in 2015, and that i've slowly come to almost admire about him is this: He treats personal interaction very differently than business/political interactions, almost as if they're too seperate people stuck in one body. And the older I get the more I realize they kind of are. I think he understands the age old trope that the human brain/soul is a choir and not a solo artist. It's this unusual respect for the "human behind the person" if that makes sense?

He fights like hell and will insult anybody, shit all over people who square up to him, anybody who gets in the way of his vision is fair game. But he is actually very willing to make amends, he doesn't kick people much once they're down. The only analogy I can think of is two boxers who talk mad shit leading up to the fight, beat the fuck out of each other, but hug afterwards and you can see that moment of genuine respect, maybe not for everything about them but something about them. This is something "clean" politicians just won't do.
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A perfect example is when he and Clinton were asked to say something nice about the other.
https://youtu.be/pJlnxbO5N2g
She says "well not him but his kids are alright" while he gives her a genuine compliment. This is after he viciously attacked her and threatened to jail her.
There's also the McDonalds and garbage truck thing which were obviously election stunts, but you can tell he like being there.
Other things that come to mind: Walking across the border with kim jong un, having a "great relationship" with xi then trying to crash his economy... the seesawing between Putin and Zelensky.

There is something fundamentally Amercian about this kind of bipolarism, for all its good and bad. We're a country who's very existence is based on rebelling against England, then formed our strongest military bond with them and became obsessed with their culture. We fought a brutal war with Japan, then within a year of essentially "conquering" them started to form an alliance. We went from isolationist to wanting to be involved in the entire world.

Does it make sense that a reality tv star can get Putin and Zelensky to get along after shitting on both? No. Does it make sense that he could win a trade war acting like a mad man? No.
But the USA is a country that wins by doing crazy shit that doesn't make sense.
It didn't make sense to hop onto boats and risk your life in a frozen wasteland.
It didn't make sense to throw tea into the river in a chimpout.
It didn't make sense to go through with the Doolittle raid
It didn't make sense to become allies with Japan after ww2.
It didn't make sense that a bunch of hippies would grow up to be staunch conservatives.
It doesn't make sense to build an entire culture around hating our own government and nation.
...to automize farming.
...to build a bunch of trains that operated at a loss for 50 years.
...to try to land on the moon in a dick wagging competition.
...to make computers

Life works this way as well, think about your accomplishments.
Did it make sense you landed that first job?
Scored with that girl?
Won that game of soccer?
Stood up to your bully and won?

And Trump just fits this.
It didn't make sense for trump to win the first election.
It didn't make sense that he could pull off the Abraham Accords.
It didn't make sense that he could win again.
...to do rallies days after being shot
...to say they're eating our pets
...to shack up with musk

It doesn't need to make sense if it works.

I read the other day that leaks indicate (grain of salt obviously) that for the past few years the Chinese state has been baffled as to how the USA hasn't eaten ourselves alive yet after all the social chaos. Apparently when the 2020 riots were going on and they were seeing how vicious we were to each other on social media they were drinking champagne and predicting we would balkanize within the year. After all it doesn't make sense that a country with so many gun owners and viciously differing views and economic turmoil wouldn't be in a full blown civil war by now!! Normal countries, especially Asian ones it seems, just can't fathom our tolerance for being able to survive and even thrive in situations that don't make sense.

A lot of that is due to our willingness to go from punching to hugging, or at least reluctant tolerance, and trump embodies that.
 
So you’re saying “middle class” means temu adjacent drop shippers? 😂
By middle-class, I'm talking about your standard small American businesses that are dependent on foreign (especially Chinese) imported stuff. And no, most of them cannot simply "buy American" instead, because the stuff isn't even made in America.

There was a pretty good video published by some American business owner about why this stuff sucks. TL;DW: if you want to buy a similar product in America, you are going to pay at least 5 times more, and the product is still much worse quality than stuff made in China. And this is if you can even get said product, because most American businesses simply turned him down.
 
Between doom...and economics shenanigans that get npcs shitting bricks...
The church (synagogue) of Satan took the gloves off..
I mean not surprising ...but what the fuck...zero thought process.
Church of Satan confusing objectivity with 100% group consensus
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It went so left field that they needed to double track 20 minutes ago ...trying to own some ((Christian chuds))
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iirc it was more Japan?
No, Japan became a big exporter later. After ww2, they had the Marshall plan to rebuild
By middle-class, I'm talking about your standard small American businesses that are dependent on foreign (especially Chinese) imported stuff. And no, most of them cannot simply "buy American" instead, because the stuff isn't even made in America.
China forcibly displaced other businesses, like they’re doing with British Steel at the moment

It does not increase American wealth to exchange our currency for shit quality things from China. That increases Chinese wealth

You are a faggot and your breath smells like rice dick.

Anyways, moving on..

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Fuck doomers and all but I'm genuinely going to crashout if he goes through with allowing illegals for farm labor and housekeeping
Work visas have always been a thing. In the case of agribusiness, there's H2-A seasonal work visas. For housekeeping, the H2-B case is a lot shakier. I could understand hiring on temp workers for the busy season, but that industry has gone to full-time wetback labor and needs to be forcefully corrected. But I don't expect men to start hoboing around for seasonal work like the 1930s in order to keep all the taco niggers out.
 
By middle-class, I'm talking about your standard small American businesses that are dependent on foreign (especially Chinese) imported stuff. And no, most of them cannot simply "buy American" instead, because the stuff isn't even made in America.

There was a pretty good video published by some American business owner about why this stuff sucks. TL;DW: if you want to buy a similar product in America, you are going to pay at least 5 times more, and the product is still much worse quality than stuff made in China. And this is if you can even get said product, because most American businesses simply turned him down.
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Chinese products aren't that cheap.

Everyone I've heard complain about the prices has either never tried to actually order anything from a non-Chinese company or they have a tiny order volume that is unprofitable for private factories to tool up for (which appears to be the case in the video).

Here's a random example:

This product is made in China by a company that is an extension of the People's Liberation Army (and therefore gets enormous amounts of state subsidies):
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It's 99.99% Made in America competitor (only foreign part is a LED crystal from Germany) is only 38% more expensive:
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and they're still in the process of paying off the factory (Holosun got free factories courtesy of the CCP) and plan to lower the price once they can afford to.

American companies can compete on a level playing field.

Holosuns are also poor quality compared to their competitors but their fanboys dismiss all complaints because of their low price. Their dot blooms way worse than competitors (causing many people to think they have astigmatism) and they blatantly lie about their battery life.
 
I read the other day that leaks indicate (grain of salt obviously) that for the past few years the Chinese state has been baffled as to how the USA hasn't eaten ourselves alive yet after all the social chaos. Apparently when the 2020 riots were going on and they were seeing how vicious we were to each other on social media they were drinking champagne and predicting we would balkanize within the year. After all it doesn't make sense that a country with so many gun owners and viciously differing views and economic turmoil wouldn't be in a full blown civil war by now!! Normal countries, especially Asian ones it seems, just can't fathom our tolerance for being able to survive and even thrive in situations that don't make sense.

A lot of that is due to our willingness to go from punching to hugging, or at least reluctant tolerance, and trump embodies that
The US isn't Asia. It isn't like any other nation on the planet. I remember a Sargon video recently of him visiting America. He was shocked that people were nice to him on the train. Just imagine that. America isn't known for train culture, Britian is, yet in America he was treated nicer because people aren't fucking dicks about riding a train. We aren't scared of eachother. We'll actually talk to eachother. Other nations don't do that shit. They let things boil over to the breaking point.
 
Chinese products aren't that cheap.

Everyone I've heard complain about the prices has either never tried to actually order anything from a non-Chinese company or they have a tiny order volume that is unprofitable for private factories to tool up for (which appears to be the case in the video).

Here's a random example:

This product is made in China by a company that is an extension of the People's Liberation Army (and therefore gets enormous amounts of state subsidies):
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It's 99.99% Made in America competitor (only foreign part is a LED crystal from Germany) is only 38% more expensive:
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and they're still in the process of paying off the factory (Holosun got free factories courtesy of the CCP) and plan to lower the price once they can afford to.

American companies can compete on a level playing field.

Holosuns are also poor quality compared to their competitors but their fanboys dismiss all complaints because of their low price. Their dot blooms way worse than competitors (causing many people to think they have astigmatism) and they blatantly lie about their battery life.
Man but you don’t get it Norinco chinkos are the best
 
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