Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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With regards to the Atomwaffen, I think we are finally witnessing the Kaiserreich IWW phenomenon in reverse: While IWW has morphed into pure simulacrum of the original IWW, now consisting of burger flippers with autism who are Syndieboos in a map painting game, so the Atomwaffen spinoffs have evolved independently in Instagram and Discord with zero influence of the original AWD people.

While the Kaiserreich devs ballwash the Syndies, I think this is purely an unintended consequence of TFR; Counterintuitively depicting AWD as evil appeals to AWD's target demographic. The "But TFR depicts everyone as heroes of their story!", AWD butchers POWs with axes, practices human sacrifices and nukes the planet, come the fuck on. TFR's devs definitely depicted AWD as evil....and probably achieved the opposite of what they intended. The Death of the Author and all that. Makes you think.
It's like how how TNO turned the collective memory of Oskar Dirlewanger from a guy who occasionally appeared on "the 10 worst nazis list" articles into a household name appearing on edgy memes and 4chan discussions that all lessens the impact of what he did in real life. Or made Hyperborea an actual topic discussed in far right circles again. Or how Red Flood got a demographic (fat lonely gamers) that otherwise wouldn't have cared to be interested in the history of art.
What do you think they should do?
Absolutely nothing.
 
Nothing, I am content with the mod. This was an observation, not a critique.
I think the devs should consider setting up an alternate download site for the mod because it is one of the most controversial videogame mods ever made and I guarantee there is a high chance Steam and Paradox will put pressure on to have it removed (or atleast force the devs to sanitise it, they have already done so by cutting the Tampa massacre event). Kaiseredux is in the same positon, they already cut Goebbels and Kalergi due to controversy, I could see them cutting the klan, yockey and other controversial paths in the CAR in the future. If some degenerate affiliated with Atomwaffen and mentions the mod shoots up or bombs a place, this pressure will heavily mount or if we get another racial reckoning like 2020 or more nations introducing internet control bills like the UK rn.
 
I think the devs should consider setting up an alternate download site for the mod because it is one of the most controversial videogame mods ever made and I guarantee there is a high chance Steam and Paradox will put pressure on to have it removed (or atleast force the devs to sanitise it, they have already done so by cutting the Tampa massacre event). Kaiseredux is in the same positon, they already cut Goebbels and Kalergi due to controversy, I could see them cutting the klan, yockey and other controversial paths in the CAR in the future. If some degenerate affiliated with Atomwaffen and mentions the mod shoots up or bombs a place, this pressure will heavily mount or if we get another racial reckoning like 2020 or more nations introducing internet control bills like the UK rn.
Madman shoots up a school: Gamers most affected.

It's like how how TNO turned the collective memory of Oskar Dirlewanger from a guy who occasionally appeared on "the 10 worst nazis list" articles into a household name appearing on edgy memes and 4chan discussions that all lessens the impact of what he did in real life.
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If an individual is weak willed enough to derive their ideology from video games, I somehow doubt they will be any more dangerous than they were before.
Then again, KKK was refounded by people who watched the Birth of a Nation.

And before someone points it out, no, I don't think TFR players will start stringing up niggers and jews. But fantasy is a powerful motivator.
 
Then again, KKK was refounded by people who watched the Birth of a Nation.

And before someone points it out, no, I don't think TFR players will start stringing up niggers and jews. But fantasy is a powerful motivator.
I'll admit fantasies can be strong drivers, but Birth of a Nation had way more mass appeal than any hoi4 mod could hope for. Aside from its subject matter and themes, it's also considered a well made film.

In that sense, I suppose it's like Triumph of the Will. Terrible subject, but it's considered the propaganda film.

Also it's not like hating blacks was unpopular when Birth of A Nation released. Even many Northern progressives did not like blacks americans. See Planned Parenthood. It was an organization formed to keep the population of blacks down, and still functions to that effect
 
Welcome to Cascadia, we have:
  1. Seattle Starbucks Employee and Reddit Moderator
  2. Geriatric-Schizo Cult Leader*
  3. "We can have Rome again, if you break enough BMW windows" Man
  4. "We Have Atomwaffen At Home" Man
*From what I recall Avakian was always called out as being a 'cult leader' even by the most insane tankies and Mao fanboys, but I gotta do more research later. Apparently he was such a Mao fanboy he wanted to have his own cult of personality around himself like Mao.

And what's the difference between The Base and Atomwaffen again? I assume The Base are more focused on just establishing a White Ethnostate within Cascadian borders nd not nuking the world, right?
 
Welcome to Cascadia, we have:
  1. Seattle Starbucks Employee and Reddit Moderator
  2. Geriatric-Schizo Cult Leader*
  3. "We can have Rome again, if you break enough BMW windows" Man
  4. "We Have Atomwaffen At Home" Man
*From what I recall Avakian was always called out as being a 'cult leader' even by the most insane tankies and Mao fanboys, but I gotta do more research later. Apparently he was such a Mao fanboy he wanted to have his own cult of personality around himself like Mao.

And what's the difference between The Base and Atomwaffen again? I assume The Base are more focused on just establishing a White Ethnostate within Cascadian borders nd not nuking the world, right?
Imagine being part of a totalitarian communist state and the name of the Supreme Leader being fucking Bob. "In the People's Republic of Cascadia, children learn to love Chairman Bob with all their heart since a young age, often holding him in higher esteem than even their own parents" "You aren't one of Bob's cronies, aren't you? I remember the days where we fought for a truly free Cascadia, before that band of maoist thugs took over"
 
And what's the difference between The Base and Atomwaffen again?
The difference depended on who they were trying to recruit. The Base tried to unify the two sides of the 2016-18 fringe right into one by taking the secessionist/bioregionalist talking points from Harold Covington's Northwest Front and smashing it together with SEEJ aesthetics, ironically bringing both sides together to disavow them. Its odd that a self proclaimed Northwest Front group had all their larger cells outside of it and they were not trying to get guys moved, make of that what you will.

The Base should be remembered for what it was. A honeypot that encouraged its members to self incriminate, tag random jewish cemeteries/synogagues, talk in chats about how excited they were to kill people, flyer bus stops, and openly plot how to assasinate suspected antifascists and their families. Real OGs remember how much that shit glowed. The only good thing that came out of it was decent small unit training, something you can get without ruining your life. I'm pissed that their feature in TFR will almost certainly spawn a cargo cult of retards.
 
*From what I recall Avakian was always called out as being a 'cult leader' even by the most insane tankies and Mao fanboys, but I gotta do more research later. Apparently he was such a Mao fanboy he wanted to have his own cult of personality around himself like Mao.
Maoism is gay, Maism is for the real cool kids bucko!
 
BUKHARIN IS DEADDDDDDDDD:
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The difference depended on who they were trying to recruit. The Base tried to unify the two sides of the 2016-18 fringe right into one by taking the secessionist/bioregionalist talking points from Harold Covington's Northwest Front and smashing it together with SEEJ aesthetics, ironically bringing both sides together to disavow them. Its odd that a self proclaimed Northwest Front group had all their larger cells outside of it and they were not trying to get guys moved, make of that what you will.

The Base should be remembered for what it was. A honeypot that encouraged its members to self incriminate, tag random jewish cemeteries/synogagues, talk in chats about how excited they were to kill people, flyer bus stops, and openly plot how to assasinate suspected antifascists and their families. Real OGs remember how much that shit glowed. The only good thing that came out of it was decent small unit training, something you can get without ruining your life. I'm pissed that their feature in TFR will almost certainly spawn a cargo cult of retards.
What unites American radicals?

The fact they're all sad and irrelevant
 

I wonder if we'll get a Sophia reference? If you don't know, go read Harassment Architecture already!

I could picture her as a pro-Fowards Cascadia militia member whom after the Pine Tree Party takes over Cascadia, she copes by getting a little too drunk off of some pre-war Sutter Home...

"BUY A GUN SOPHIA. POINT IT AT YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU ARE SAD, HALF-JOKINGLY, HALF-SERIOUS. IT'S USUALLY UNLOADED AND THE DRY FIRE CLICK MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD BUT THIS MORNING I BROKE INTO YOUR APARTMENT AND PUT A LIVE ROUND IN THE CHAMBER. TONIGHT, AFTER YOU GET WINE-DRUNK YET AGAIN, YOU'LL PICK IT UP AND SCARE YOUR GAY NEIGHBORS. WHAT A WAY TO GO. COMMITTING SUICIDE BY ACCIDENT BUT NOBODY EVER KNOWS THAT. THEY WILL ALWAYS THINK YOU WANTED OUT, REALLY REALLY BAD. LOL."
 
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Another observation: While Atomwaffen exhorted lone wolfism and cell based action, in the end it was a typical top-down neo-Nazi group.
Pretty much, Cells pretty much listened to Russell and Later Denton (When the former was incarcerated)
The Entire idea of these Cells being independent or whatever if anything fucked over Atomwaffen as it allowed for O9A and Federal Informants to easily set up a Cell themselves, cause infighting etc..


The Base should be remembered for what it was. A honeypot that encouraged its members to self incriminate, tag random jewish cemeteries/synogagues, talk in chats about how excited they were to kill people, flyer bus stops, and openly plot how to assasinate suspected antifascists and their families. Real OGs remember how much that shit glowed. The only good thing that came out of it was decent small unit training, something you can get without ruining your life. I'm pissed that their feature in TFR will almost certainly spawn a cargo cult of retards.
I'm going to assume though that just like how Atomwaffen's Lore is somewhat clearly changed (With what we can assume this includes things such as Devon Arthurs never murdering his Atomwaffen Roommates as he is a General for Atomwaffen in Game) that the Situation for the Base would likely be different and rather than, ya know, Be a Shitty Honeypot, they actually are an effective Org in TFR's Timeline.
 
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