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Who is buying toys? Children have exactly one toy (their iPad), I don't know what other market could exist for them.
There are still kids that play with toys. A lot of parents these days set hard limits or don't even give the tike a screen the moment the exit the birth canal. Sure there are some that will sit in a stroller at the zoo with their face attached to a phone but there's also plenty of kids running around without a screen as well. The park by where I live is always packed with children and their parents/grandparents.

Plus. There's a bunch of adults that buy toys for themselves.
For as long as their parents keep paying for the apps and phone they have a pacifier but not a innovation tool. Kids don't use iPads like adults. They watch silly bs from other creators, mimic them and become robots to trends. Toys inspire creativity and imagination, which is why zoomer liberals have none because they were raised as trend followers not innovators from same "iPads" at age 5.

Long run, kids without some tangible way to express themselves into something they love or make will continue to make them robots. Even before Hasbro and LEGO became adult oriented to Soy-Boys, the companies use to know that creativity was key as by this original quote by Company in 70's.

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(And before you go woke trash on Doll House quote, LEGO bricks were first developed as design and architecture. Which I believe the company is incentivizing that a boy may be prone to building a house which may inspire him to be into drafting or construction.)
I love lego as a toy. When the kids are small you don't even have to worry about getting particular sets. My kids like to build little animals and "houses" for them as an example. The worse thing i have to do is buy eyes in bulk.
Not only that but I'm all in favor of reducing luxurious models/trims from non-luxury car brands that we can go without. Maybe that'll get the consumers to quit wasting money on shit they don't need, like any F-150 that goes above the Lariat name and have trims like the King Ranch be a limited time offer.
I'm just tired of seeing sun roofs on every single vehicle. I drive a borderline minivan, I don't need a sunroof.
 
A big issue is what incentives are there to bring manufacturing back, over the companies just doing nothing and waiting out Trump's presidency? As nice as it would be that they'd just do it, reality is a lot of these places won't as the short term costs outweigh the long term ones.
The incentives are the tariffs and trade negotiations. This has been rehashed over and over and over in this thread so forgive me if I sound annoyed or am curt.

Tariffs lower revenue for businesses. If businesses try to make the consumer take the hit for the tariffs while manufacturing abroad and then consumption drops, so they loose profits anyways. Same with trade deals, alot of us goods cannot be sold around the world, get them to accept American products and then that's more markets for the American businesses to reach, so more money. If you are an American businesses that suddenly can sell your products world wide and get tariffed for having your products made in another country the only decision that makes sense is to increase production and do that production domestically so you can sell to these new markets while also avoiding tariffs
 
I know a couple of severe TDS people who've agreed that, if renegotiating tariffs and regulations allowed them to buy a Toyota Hilux, they'd accept that as a win.
Sadly I think its gonna take an act of congress to remove all the Obama level crap that is required in cars now that add like 10K to the cost with the backup cameras and other safety requirements.

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Honestly? I'll take the 200 deaths annually if it means every young American can actually afford a car.
 
Who is buying toys? Children have exactly one toy (their iPad), I don't know what other market could exist for them.
There are still kids that play with toys. A lot of parents these days set hard limits or don't even give the tike a screen the moment the exit the birth canal. Sure there are some that will sit in a stroller at the zoo with their face attached to a phone but there's also plenty of kids running around without a screen as well. The park by where I live is always packed with children and their parents/grandparents.

Plus. There's a bunch of adults that buy toys for themselves.
For as long as their parents keep paying for the apps and phone they have a pacifier but not a innovation tool. Kids don't use iPads like adults. They watch silly bs from other creators, mimic them and become robots to trends. Toys inspire creativity and imagination, which is why zoomer liberals have none because they were raised as trend followers not innovators from same "iPads" at age 5.

Long run, kids without some tangible way to express themselves into something they love or make will continue to make them robots. Even before Hasbro and LEGO became adult oriented to Soy-Boys, the companies use to know that creativity was key as by this original quote by Company in 70's.

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(And before you go woke trash on Doll House quote, LEGO bricks were first developed as design and architecture. Which I believe the company is incentivizing that a boy may be prone to building a house which may inspire him to be into drafting or construction.)
I love lego as a toy. When the kids are small you don't even have to worry about getting particular sets. My kids like to build little animals and "houses" for them as an example. The worse thing i have to do is buy eyes in bulk.
Not only that but I'm all in favor of reducing luxurious models/trims from non-luxury car brands that we can go without. Maybe that'll get the consumers to quit wasting money on shit they don't need, like any F-150 that goes above the Lariat name and have trims like the King Ranch be a limited time offer.
I'm just tired of seeing sun roofs on every single vehicle. I drive a borderline minivan, I don't need a sunroof.
 
Haven't seen this posted. Don't have much to say besides, it's a good play on China's part. Hurts but not so bad that we're allowed to howl about it and hit them back hard.

China halts critical rare earth exports as trade war intensifies​

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By Keith Bradsher
THE NEW YORK TIMES
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Apr 14, 2025

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GANZHOU, China –
China has suspended exports of a wide range of critical minerals and magnets, threatening to choke off supplies of components central to automakers, aerospace manufacturers, semiconductor companies and military contractors around the world.

Shipments of the magnets, essential for assembling everything from cars and drones to robots and missiles, have been halted at many Chinese ports while the Chinese government drafts a new regulatory system. Once in place, the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.

The official crackdown is part of China’s retaliation for President Donald Trump’s sharp increase in tariffs that started April 2.

On April 4, the Chinese government ordered restrictions on the export of six heavy rare earth metals, which are refined entirely in China, as well as rare earth magnets, 90% of which are produced in China. The metals, and special magnets made with them, can now be shipped out of China only with special export licenses.

But China has barely started setting up a system for issuing the licenses. That has caused consternation among industry executives that the process could drag on and that current supplies of minerals and products outside of China could run low.

If factories in Detroit and elsewhere run out of powerful rare earth magnets, that could prevent them from assembling cars and other products with electric motors that require these magnets. Companies vary widely in the size of their emergency stockpiles for such contingencies, so the timing of production disruptions is hard to predict.

The so-called heavy rare earth metals covered by the export suspension are used in magnets essential for many kinds of electric motors. These motors are crucial components of electric cars, drones, robots, missiles and spacecraft. Gasoline-powered cars also use electric motors with rare earth magnets for critical tasks such as steering.

The metals also go into the chemicals for manufacturing jet engines, lasers, car headlights and certain spark plugs. And these rare metals are vital ingredients in capacitors, which are electrical components of the computer chips that power artificial intelligence servers and smartphones.

Michael Silver, chair and CEO of American Elements, a chemicals supplier based in Los Angeles, said his company had been told it would take 45 days before export licenses could be issued and exports of rare earth metals and magnets would resume. Silver said his company had increased its inventory last winter in anticipation of a trade war between the United States and China, and could meet its existing contracts while waiting for the licenses.

Daniel Pickard, chair of the critical minerals advisory committee for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and Department of Commerce, expressed concern about the availability of rare earths.

"Does the export control or ban potentially have severe effects in the U.S.? Yes,” he said.

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Chinese leader Xi Jinping waits briefly for U.S. President Donald Trump to join him for a bilateral meeting at the Group of 20 summit in Osaka in June 2019. | Erin Schaff / The New York Times


Pickard, leader of the international trade and national security practice at the Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney law firm, said a swift resolution of the rare earths issue was necessary because a sustained disruption of exports could hurt China’s reputation as a reliable supplier.

In a potential complication, China’s Ministry of Commerce, which issued the new export restrictions jointly with the General Administration of Customs, has barred Chinese companies from having any dealings with an ever-lengthening list of American companies, particularly military contractors.

One American mining leader, James Litinsky, executive chair and CEO of MP Materials, said rare earth supplies for military contractors were of particular concern.

"Drones and robotics are widely considered the future of warfare, and based on everything we are seeing, the critical inputs for our future supply chain are shut down,” he said.

MP Materials owns the sole rare earths mine in the United States — the Mountain Pass mine in the California desert near the Nevada border — and hopes to start commercial production of magnets in Texas at the end of the year for General Motors and other manufacturers.

A few Japanese companies keep rare earth inventories of more than a year’s supply, having been hurt in 2010, when China imposed a seven-week embargo on rare earth exports to Japan during a territorial dispute.

But many American companies keep little or no inventory because they do not want to tie up cash in stockpiles of costly materials. One of the metals subject to the new controls, dysprosium oxide, trades for $204 per kilogram in Shanghai, and much more outside China.

Rare earth magnets make up a tiny share of China’s overall exports to the United States and elsewhere. So, halting shipments causes minimal economic pain in China while holding the potential for big effects in the United States and elsewhere.

Chinese customs officials are blocking exports of heavy rare earth metals and magnets not just to the United States but to any country, including Japan and Germany. Enforcement of the new export license requirement, though, has been uneven so far among different Chinese ports, rare earth industry executives said.

Most but not all rare earth magnets include heavy rare earths, which are needed to prevent magnets from losing their magnetism at high temperatures or in some electrical fields. Some rare earth magnets are made only from light rare earths and are not subject to export restrictions. Customs officials at a few Chinese ports are tolerating exports of magnets if they have only tiny traces of heavy rare earth metals in them, and if the magnets are not going to the United States.

Officials at other Chinese ports are taking a more stringent stance, however, demanding that exporters run tests to prove that any batch of magnets does not have heavy rare earth metals in them before the magnets can be loaded on a ship for export.

The Chinese export restrictions began taking effect before the Trump administration announced Friday night that it would exempt many kinds of consumer electronics from China from its latest tariffs. Magnet exports continued to be blocked over the weekend, five rare earth industry executives said.

Like most goods from China, the magnets are also subject to Trump’s latest tariffs when they arrive at American ports.

Until 2023, China produced 99% of the world’s supply of heavy rare earth metals, with a trickle of production coming out of a refinery in Vietnam. But that refinery has been closed for the past year because of a tax dispute, leaving China with a monopoly.

China also produces 90% of the world’s nearly 200,000 tons a year of rare earth magnets, which are far more powerful than conventional iron magnets. Japan produces most of the rest and Germany produces a tiny quantity as well, but they depend on China for the raw materials.

China’s Ministry of Commerce did not reply to a request for comment.

The world’s richest deposits of heavy rare earths lie in a small, forested valley on the outskirts of Longnan in the red clay hills of Jiangxi province in south-central China. And most of China’s refineries and magnet factories are in or near Longnan and Ganzhou, a town about 130 kilometers away. Mines in the valley ship ore to refineries in Longnan, which remove contaminants and send the rare earths to magnet factories in Ganzhou.

China’s most famous factory for these magnets is operated by the JL Mag Rare-Earth Company, whose headquarters are in Ganzhou.

The factory supplies the world’s top two electric car producers — Tesla and China’s BYD — with the magnets that power their cars, rare earth industry executives said. BYD has said it buys some of the world’s latest, most powerful magnets from JL Mag, with 15 times the magnetic force per cubic inch of volume as a conventional iron magnet.

Chinese leader Xi Jinping made a special inspection visit to JL Mag’s factory in Ganzhou in 2019, during heightened trade tensions in Trump’s first term. The trip was interpreted as a hint that China was ready to use its control over the materials to disrupt American supply chains, a step it did not take then but is doing now.

China paused the mining of heavy rare earths near Longnan a few years ago because it was causing severe chemical pollution.

On Friday, at the site of one mine near Longnan, a diesel generator was humming and liquids were gurgling through plastic pipes, indicating that at least some mining operations had probably resumed. Heavy rare earths are mined by dumping strong chemicals into holes dug in the top of a hillside. The chemicals dissolve the ore and dribble out of the base of the hill, where they can be pumped to nearby pits for initial processing.
 
Shareholders are the least likely to sign off on building a 2 billion dollar manufacturing plant if the chances are in 3 year or so, the cost of outsourcing them goes back down. They know labor is the largest expense and American labor is some of the most expensive.
True, but American labor is also the best quality you can get per dollar. During covid when production slumped I had to make shit from US, Chinese and Canadian steel. Without a doubt the Canadian was the worst shit I've ever had to use and decreased my productivity due to defects in the steel. Chinese was ok but it varies a lot. Long story short, It's never cheaper to outsource. That's a lie that was sold by the business/MBA class to society at large. You still are going to pay the money you normally would pay a US worker but instead of it going into labor and QC it's going into the scrap bin and to 'defects'.
 
Haven't seen this posted. Don't have much to say besides, it's a good play on China's part. Hurts but not so bad that we're allowed to howl about it and hit them back hard.

China halts critical rare earth exports as trade war intensifies​

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/japantimes/uploads/images/2025/04/14/463256.JPG
By Keith Bradsher
THE NEW YORK TIMES
archive

Apr 14, 2025

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GANZHOU, China –
China has suspended exports of a wide range of critical minerals and magnets, threatening to choke off supplies of components central to automakers, aerospace manufacturers, semiconductor companies and military contractors around the world.

Shipments of the magnets, essential for assembling everything from cars and drones to robots and missiles, have been halted at many Chinese ports while the Chinese government drafts a new regulatory system. Once in place, the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.

I'm not an accelerationist, but I love this. Show even the dumbest people how dependent the U.S. has gotten on China and that it can be cut off at the CCP's whim.
 
Sadly I think its gonna take an act of congress to remove all the Obama level crap that is required in cars now that add like 10K to the cost with the backup cameras and other safety requirements.

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Honestly? I'll take the 200 deaths annually if it means every young American can actually afford a car.
The cost of a rear view camera isn't the make or break on if "every young American can actually afford a car". Those same young Americans will dump the entire cost of a rear view camera installed on a production line automobile on Uber eats every 30 days rather than learning how to make more than Ramen and Bluebox mac n cheese.
 
Haven't seen this posted. Don't have much to say besides, it's a good play on China's part
Good in the here and now, but long term they're really proving the point of why this shift needs to be done. Any trade partner over a long enough period of time will have disputes and conflicts, both trade and non-trade in nature. If you're permanently beholden to their cooperation for something, then you are in a bad place. Ideally, you have a domestic baseline, and foreign trade is a surplus/nice to have.
 
The incentives are the tariffs and trade negotiations. This has been rehashed over and over and over in this thread so forgive me if I sound annoyed or am curt.

Tariffs lower revenue for businesses. If businesses try to make the consumer take the hit for the tariffs while manufacturing abroad and then consumption drops, so they loose profits anyways. Same with trade deals, alot of us goods cannot be sold around the world, get them to accept American products and then that's more markets for the American businesses to reach, so more money. If you are an American businesses that suddenly can sell your products world wide and get tariffed for having your products made in another country the only decision that makes sense is to increase production and do that production domestically so you can sell to these new markets while also avoiding tariffs
I completely agree but companies are selfish and want to keep money hence the offshoring, to bring those jobs back they'd have to hire American workers and pay them American wages (Like the agriculture sector should but are complaining about losing the slaves and wanting them back) American workers are expensive, they want safe working conditions, reasonable hours for reasonable pay, vacation, health insurance and won't work like slaves. Another issue is that you can't mine the resources necessary to make the products (at this point in time) you have to rely on the country where those resources are in abundance and maintain that relationship long term. You can't force people to do what you want and have that relationship last long term without grievances being made along the way, you can make your goals and theirs align but making it desirable, they want money so if they believe that investing in America will make them money both short and long term they'll do it.
 
Why do people let their facial hair grow like that? It's fucking disgusting. If you're gonna grow a beard at least take care of the damn thing.
It's basically "i've been a loser my entire life but then suddenly i started growing facial hair! That's manly!" And they just latch onto it. It's all they have. Shape? Form? Maintenance? No, they finally have something that is sort of seen as manly and they won't risk trimming it, because what if like in everything else in life that fell through for them it doesn't grow back this time?

How do I know this? I was one of them, my first year of college. Thank fuck I had a friend who cared enough to tell me how shit it looked.
 
Are you telling people to buy a BMW instead of a Luxury Truck they don't use for truck stuff?
I won't go too far into this but this is more of a matter of using the car for the purpose it serves. Historically speaking, pick-up trucks weren't a luxury item, as they were made as an easier form to carry materials and tools for a hard day of physical labor. It wouldn't be until the 2010's when more luxurious options were provided to include all of the things we take for granted in German vehicles today. That's when the trims past the Lariat started to pop up since before then, we had cool limited edition models like the SVT Lightning, what used to be Raptors, and other obscure ones here and there.

It seems rather silly to even come up with a hypothetical to use a BMW to do "truck stuff" since the buyers of that market don't really use them for that purpose. Luxury trucks only reliable audience are old people with too much cash to their names that they can afford to get a Platinum F-150, said trades workers who want a more comfortable ride compared to their XLT-spec work truck, and soccer moms who don't have a Suburban but need to borrow their husband's vehicle to do grocery shopping.

This does come off as being a little mad that people can freely overspend and overthink what car they truly need but my point is that because people are facing a decline in spare income, they should preferably get a cheaper alternative, that's all. Unless the buyers are fine with financing new vehicles, then everything I've said is all in vain. I just wanted to make it clear on where I stand with the auto industry bloating up the options and wasteful spending on the consumers end.
 
It will bring advances in industry and offer people who are willing to learn a lot of opportunities.
I think you're misunderstanding chuddie so let me educate you.

"Learning" isn't something you do by working with physical things to make products, that's redneck white people labor (or slavery if it's black people doing it).

Learning is something you do in a classroom, where you memorize facts things that a committee decided you need to know and write them down on a test or in an essay. The application of that learning (educated college jobs) is being in an air conditioned office with an HR department, a starbux, and a cultural outreach expert, where you and four hundred others like you decide what to do with other people's money.
 
No wall, no deportations and now no tariffs. But hey still sending billions of dollars to Israel and more American troops to watch over the genocide going on there.

Blormpf also nominated another kike as some 'UN antisemitism guard' thing. I think I'm tired of all this winning.
Settle down Mohammed nobody cares about gaza
 
F150s went from reliable, moderately priced (and not gigantic) workhorse truck to the souped up 18 ton chrome plated boomermobiles you see parked alongside RVs and boat trailers.

The American truck has become to the retired boomer in the 2010s/20s what the sedan became to retired silent generation in the 80s, a status symbol and end of life toy.
 
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