Allegedly VC Andrews....apparently claimed she was involved with an incestuous thing but possibly it was all taken from a war man she met who told her about his life back during the war....idk
I mean VC Andrews was known as the creepy incest lady. Even if she made it all up or she stole her stories from other people it's still obviously her fetish. I guess her diehard fans might be pissed that it wasn't fully real I suppose? One weird self insert thing she did though was have a lot of her characters especially nubile young girls get thrown down her big Gothic mansion stairs that featured in her books while she was pretty much crippled in a wheelchair the rest of her life after an accident so yeah make that of you will.
This doesn't necessarily apply, maybe. Between Analogue: A Hate Story and Hate+ Christine Love decided that having any character disagree with him is punishable by death. Which is exactly what happens in Hate+. Aside from that, the whole novel is one polyamorous gay tranny orgy — so yeah, it might be kind of autobiographical, considering by 2014 Christine looked like this:
Damn they look like the ultimate factory assembly line mold of "crazy tranny that likes loli anime". Pretty much nuff said.
I'm not fully versed on the total situations involved in these examples but two biggest poster children to OP's example has gotta be Hideaki Anno with Neon Evangelion Genesis (depression due to divorce from wife?) that infamously made the series have it's fucked up ending AND head Editor Joe Quesada at the time of Marvel comics deciding to fuck up Peter Parker's marriage and life that's still present to this day because of his *surprise* divorce. Despite consequent retcons in both Neo and Spiderman the effects still remains and they'd arguably infected in a ripple effect the anime and American comics industries as a result too. Fuck Anno and fuck Quesada you fucking cucked drama queens.
A Child Called It turned out to be complete fanfiction.
Social workers, cops, teachers, and Peltzer's other siblings were all interviewed and said the same thing. The family was poor white trash but the ridiculously over the top torture and abuse depicted in the book never happened.
A million little pieces same shit, completely made up.
I got in trouble in 7th grade for laughing at that book in a silent reading period and my teacher was horrified I was laughing at it. I didn't know until just now, that it was made up. But I kept telling that old bitch when she was telling me I was sick for laughing that there was flat out NO fucking way some lady was letting her other kids play and shit and walked up to one of them and said you come here, turned on the stove and told him to keep his hand there and fucked off and that retard did it.
I mean sure yeah people abuse kids all the time but the way that shit was written came off entirely made up and ridiculous to me then. It read like a parody of child abuse. I'd feel like an asshole now for laughing at something like that but when I was 12 I thought it was fucking hilarious this guy was trying to get me to buy he did it. I thought he was the fucking idiot in the situation.
I got in trouble in 7th grade for laughing at that book in a silent reading period and my teacher was horrified I was laughing at it. I didn't know until just now, that it was made up. But I kept telling that old bitch when she was telling me I was sick for laughing that there was flat out NO fucking way some lady was letting her other kids play and shit and walked up to one of them and said you come here, turned on the stove and told him to keep his hand there and fucked off and that retard did it.
I mean sure yeah people abuse kids all the time but the way that shit was written came off entirely made up and ridiculous to me then. It read like a parody of child abuse. I'd feel like an asshole now for laughing at something like that but when I was 12 I thought it was fucking hilarious this guy was trying to get me to buy he did it. I thought he was the fucking idiot in the situation.
Is an autobiographical comic about how the dude destroyed his life with porn, including losing his job and all his romantic prospects. It's pretty bleak, dude died without ever improving his life even a little bit.
I expected someone to bring up the manga (I think To Love Ru) where the mangaka based the main love interest on his wife and then they got into a nasty divorce, which resulted with the manga getting remade with a new heroine.
I expected someone to bring up the manga (I think To Love Ru) where the mangaka based the main love interest on his wife and then they got into a nasty divorce, which resulted with the manga getting remade with a new heroine.
It was To Love-Ru (a manga whose premise is increasingly sexual depictions of 14-16 year old girls). His ex-wife stole a bunch of money and wanted royalties from the character’s likeness to her, ultimately extorting him under threat of losing all custody of their daughter.
Considering the premise of the series, it’s a struggle to be sympathetic to anyone involved, save for the daughter.
I'm not fully versed on the total situations involved in these examples but two biggest poster children to OP's example has gotta be Hideaki Anno with Neon Evangelion Genesis (depression due to divorce from wife?) that infamously made the series have it's fucked up ending AND head Editor Joe Quesada at the time of Marvel comics deciding to fuck up Peter Parker's marriage and life that's still present to this day because of his *surprise* divorce. Despite consequent retcons in both Neo and Spiderman the effects still remains and they'd arguably infected in a ripple effect the anime and American comics industries as a result too. Fuck Anno and fuck Quesada you fucking cucked drama queens.
I would like to be paid in 1 Kiwi Farms Chris-chan Silver Coin, thank you very much. /sneed
I'd like to share one tho, an Indian homie of mine once showed me this, when I told him I read some Indian stories.
Imagine a story about a righteous & kind warrior, saving his pure pious wife, from a demon king enacting vengeance for his family. A story which despite it's extremely extensive lore (imagine a very in-depth shonen manga), even at it's bare-basic, surface-level explanation is just a prince saving his princess from the demon lord.
Now imagine a 56 y/o (around 39 y/o at the time of this film) Jewish radfem Karen, taking this story... & then making it about her shitty break-up.
You can find this entire film on YouTube btw.
First, a little information on Ramayana. I read the entire thing out of boredom once so I have some knowledge of this. But honestly I recommend watching the anime movie on it cause it's honestly pretty good & explains the main plot, it's basically a hero's journey story. There's so many side events & lore related things in the original that explaining it is a pain. So here's a cliff notes version.
I'm giving the bare-minimum details here. It's just that long in general, despite trying to keep it as short as possible.
Rama, the 7th incarnation of the god Vishnu, is the central figure, known for his virtue & righteousness. & his brother Lakshamana (the end A's are silent in both) got exiled for 14 years from their kingdom, Kosala (the first A is silent), Ayodhya (capital of Kosla), who Rama is the rightful heir of the throne of, due to a plot by his step-mother Kaikeyi (Kai-kay-e).
Little lore dump on Sita's origins:
Sita (another name is Janaki), Rama's wife, the incarnation of goddess Lakshmi, & the daughter of Mother Earth herself (Sita sprang as a baby from a furrow in the ground. A king discovered her in a field & raised her as his own, even though she was clearly the daughter of Mother Earth).
Now back to main story, she declared that she was going with him. Her friends & family tried to convince her to stay. They reminded her that if she went to the forest, she would have to give up her belongings her wealthy luxurious lifestyle. None of that mattered to her, she wanted to be with Rama.
They lived in the forest, lot of side filler shit happens, but the main plot is that Ravana's sister Surpanakha was trying to woo Rama & both him & his bro "no way fag'd" her. She tries to attack Sita out of thot rage & Lakshamana "begone thot's" her by cutting off her nose. She charged her brother into getting revenge.
Sita, due to being nice to a fault, is later kidnapped by the 10-headed demon king Ravana (again, silent A at the end) of Lanka.
Rama gets a homie in Hanuman (aka Bajrang) & his bros to make an army & get his girl back. They make a bridge (Ram Setu, it's apparently real & actually still exists in India). They obliterate Lanka & Ravan dies by his hand.
Now, post-Ravana, Rama returns home & is crowned King to restore Dharma (righteousness & order) in his kingdom Ayodhya. However, the his subjects were doubting Sita's purity in a "she lived with the demon-king, he must have done SOMETHING? (he hasn't, Ravana actually treated her with respect throughout the story, despite capturing her). Mind you, Rama never actually believes any of this.
Forced by Rama's adherence to his dharma (duty) as a king & societal pressures, he prioritizing the reputation of his kingdom & lineage over personal feelings, even though he knew Sita was innocent. This led to a trial by fire (Agni Pariksha) she had to take, which she does with with unwavering faith to the point where Sita prayed to the gods, requesting to be burned to ash if she was unfaithful. The Agni Pariksha is a powerful symbol of Sita's unwavering devotion & purity.
Just as she enters the fire, the fire god Agni appears, attesting to her purity & returning her to Rama. However the gossip still continued, & he asked her to do another trial & she basically said verbatim:
"Oh my lord, there will always be someone who cannot be satisfied by any 'test' or any proof. Their convictions are hard-pressed in their psyche & no amount of genuine proof will convince them about the truth, for they do not want to get convinced. They are born to raise doubts about the truth itself."
She even asked him that does he think she should have to do this every day? Rama decided to somewhat desert her just so she doesn't have to face scrutiny anymore. He made Lakshman take Sita deep into the forest to live the rest of her life in a humble ashram, while she was pregnant with Rama's 2 sons. Not long after her arrival in the forest, Sita looked at the ground & asked Mother Earth Bhumi (Bhoo-me) to open up & take her back (the event is called Bhumi Pravesh), she basically took what is called a Samadhi (google that shit). The earth separated in two, Sita stepped in, & she was never seen again. The baby who had been found in the soil became a woman who endured more trials & tribulations than anyone should, & in the end, she became the earth again.
You can actually find a temple on spot of the Sita Samadhi. It's called Sita Samahit Sthal or just Sitamarhi Bhadohi.
The End.
Now the future story is all about her their twin sons Luv (pronounced Luh-vaa) & Kusha (pronounced exactly like Kush, the drug). That's not the point, it's like the Boruto to Naruto here.
Now, let's talk about Nina's break-up...
From her website
I have more demons, of course. In June 2002 I moved to Trivandrum, India, following my (American) husband who had taken a job there. Upon my arrival I was confronted with his mid-life crisis, a complete emotional withdrawal. This left me without support in a city in which women were 2nd-class citizens, unable to walk alone at night, and not expected to have an identity separate from their husbands. It was in Trivandrum I encountered the Indian epic, The Ramayana, for the first time. Like many westerners, I initially considered the Ramayana little more than misogynist propaganda. Meanwhile I was in the midst of developing a new comic strip for King Features Syndicate, The Hots. After 3 months in Trivandrum, King Features flew me to their New York headquarters for a launch meeting. Then my husband dumped me by email.
Unable to return to my former apartment in San Francisco, or my new apartment in Trivandrum, I moved to Brooklyn. My professional life benefitted, as I began teaching animation at Parsons School of Design and acquiring New York freelance clients. Emotionally, however, my relocation commenced a terrible year of grief. The Ramayana took on new depth and meaning for me. It no longer resembled a sexist parable; rather, it seemed to capture the essence of painful relationships, and describe a blueprint of human suffering. My grief and longing for the man who rejected me increasingly resembled Sita's; my husband's withdrawal reminded me of Rama. In Manhattan I heard the music of Annette Hanshaw for the first time. A radio star of the late 1920's, Hanshaw specialized in heartfelt blues and torch songs. In my grief-addled state, her songs, my story, and the Ramayana merged into one: Sita Sings the Blues.
TL;DR - It legitimately reads like a radical feminist bitching about other people's cultures (kinda like the White liberals bitching about Speedy Gonzales kinda until getting BTFO'd by the Spanish thing) & trying to shove insert her beliefs into it. She literally just projected herself on the female lead of the story, which she barely, let alone badly misunderstood.
You almost sympathize with her ex-husband for dealing with this as a wife.
Now for the movie itself.
Even without the whole cultural colonialism, even on the most basic, fundamental level, this film isn't good.
Remember that radical feminism mentioned before, yeah that led to a lot of "creative liberties" taken to the point of historical revisionism from a scorned radfem. Instead of a hero's journey like the OG epic, it's basically a break-up rom-com at times. There's musicals just because it's Indian, but the songs are honestly bad.
Hell, some scenes are just mean-spirited. Like this one where he kicks his pregnant wife.
Then follows it by walking on her bump.
Throughout this, a shitty sounding jazz song is playing. Which doesn't even match the setting.
Now for the plot structure, Every time in the middle Nina & her husband's pics show up confusing the viewer & breaking the story's flow, but if you've read everything before this, you'd know that this isn't Ramayana, it's an oddly self centered depiction of the Ramayana that makes a lot more sense just scrolling through the artist's Twitter, unironically made for coping reasons.
This movie has a 3-part cycle through the runtime, & the animation is almost bipolar throughout it.
The 1st part of this cycle has a weird shadow puppet-like animation style (you’d think that’d be cool, think again) explaining what part of the Ramayana the next part covers & commenting on it, with *very* bad voice acting. When you actually can make it out, you’ll note the commentary is usually criticizing whatever part of the story is relevant.
The 2nd part has some weird modern PBS kids-like animation that’s also ugly, & it’s a sequence with Sita singing an old timey-styled song about it. The songs are just mid, But that can’t be said of… any other part of this stage of the cycle, in that it worsens.
The 3rd part is in almost a children’s book-like art style that I actually don’t hate, & covers the IRL story of Nina Paley's shitty break-up with her boyfriend & fully turns into a radfem manifesto. I would theorize that this part solely (combined with a complete & utter lack of respect for Hinduism, or even trying to respect a foreign culture as a whole) is why this is framed as a “break-up story.”
For a more autistic breakdown:
In this film there are not 3, but actually 4 animation/artstyles present to match up with 4 different narrative threads:
You have a more formal retelling of the Ramayana shown through traditional art cutouts being animated in a manner I will describe as similar to South Park (false stop motion collage).
You have the parodic (not satire, cause satire actually requires a point) retelling of the Ramayana through the use of animated music videos synched to the work of Annette Hanshaw & shown in a cartoony style reminiscent in sound design of old cartoons (think Looney Tunes) & in visual design to early web animations found on YouTube & Newgrounds (it honestly is a shitty Newgrounds film, I am guessing Adobe After Effects was used to create easily manipulated puppets).
Then there's the more tongue-in-cheek "retelling" of the Ramayana animating what seems to be an improvised interview between 3 Hindi-speakers people doing their best to remember the story off the top of their heads (IMO the best part of the film, perhaps because it gave me the relief of knowing that at least 1 pajeet who actually knows his shit, worked on this project, & somehow felt more like people laughing at their own culture than calling it out). The art style here kinda looks like Wayang Kulit puppetry, which honestly feels like Paley slapping in a cultural cobblestone without regard for its legacy (while the artform MAY have originated in ancient India it is now mostly associated with Indonesian people & feels a bit crude to equate them without context - not that this film has any cultural context at all).
Remember I said that this is radfem manifesto, made for unironically coping reasons? Yeah... The final section which is the most egregious is the autobiography of Paley's breakup with a vaguely dicky boyfriend (totally not biased at all) which is rendered in a very sketchy cartoon artstyle.
My opinion is biased on this but I found this section to be the most boring (there is nothing else to the story than man + woman, man leave woman, woman sad) & unnecessary part of the film and it easily could have been cut to enhance the whole experience.
Now if you read that piece of autism, you may have noticed one of the film's biggest problem, which is that it is retardedly repetitive. You basically have the same story being retold thrice with very little added to each version. So the audience is told what will happen. Shown what happens. Then shown one more time what happens. I was wondering why it felt like this relatively short film was taking a lifetime to get through & I attribute it to this.
Also, remember that this film is all about projecting & self-inserting. So the plot is also the same. There is no thematic through-line. No theme to justify the appropriation of Hindu figures or the appropriation of Annette Hanshaw's singing or the autobiographical appearance of Paley.
As mentioned before, any parallel between Sita & Paley is surface level at best, and the film does literally nothing to deepen the connection. There are lame, half-hearted attempts, such as equivocating Rama's exile to Nina's boyfriend getting a job in India (the irony that as a Jewish American adapting this story, we cannot even have a parallel in the exile as Rama is forced out of Ayodhya, while Nina's ex-boyfriend is traveling there of his own free will) & Nina flying on an aeroplane - alone - to New York being equated to Rama and Sita returning to Kosla (his kingdom, again Ayodhya is the capital) on the vimana (flying chariot). These are superficial similarities at best, & do nothing to further our understand of the Ramayana or of Nina's relationship/Nina as a character.
Seriously, it's like if some long-haired white dude accidentally pricks himself on his hand with a nail doing carpentry & think "Holy fuck, Jesus is literally me".
Then there is the character design. I honestly don't care about this part much, but Nina is using her as an ex-py here. Sita, the literal Indian symbol of devotion, purity, fidelity itself, is legitimately design like a whore you can find on the actual Indian red-light districts. With Rama as a himbo (he was actually very lean & nimble throughout the story, he's supposed to be extremely graceful looking).
For reference, this is her statue set on the temple, made on her last resting place.
And this is lore accurate Rama.
Now for the songs in this musical, there's an entire song bitching about Rama. Here's a bit from it:
Perfect man, perfect son,
Rama's loved by everyone.
Always right, Never wrong,
We praise Rama in this song.
Sing his love, sing his praise,
Rama set his wife ablaze.
Got her home, kicked her out,
To allay his people's doubt.
If anyone has read the abridged version of the OG story above, they'd know & even the story criticizes Rama at times. Hell, the song doesn't even criticize the actual reasoning behind it all, which is the societal scrutiny.
That's not even the worse part, it's the entire soundtrack is weird. I'm genuinely confused as to why would you make a fanfiction about a Indian eligious historical epic, but use a... 1920's era jazz soundtrack?
Putting aside Pajeets as a whole, Ramayana has high cultural significance & is very important to Hindus (the less annoying pajeets, cause at least they're not Muslims) & Indians in general. That shit is their Bible. Clearly, 3rd worlders dont really take these types of things lying down. So it led to understandable controversies. One being it's showing getting stopped in Goa.
From Wikikepedo:
>The film has drawn controversy from a number of sides. In April 2009, the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti started a petition calling for a complete ban on the movie and initiation of legal action against all those who have been involved in its production and marketing, believing its portrayal of the Ramayana to be offensive, with some members going so far as to call it "a derogatory act against the entire Hindu community."
>When the San Jose Museum of Art screened the film, a protestor said: "I'm very angry about this film and feel very humiliated by the portrayal of Lord Ram in this very perverted way...negative portrayals of Hinduism cause discrimination and religious intolerance." Another protestor at the same event suggested: "Trying to promote India's rich culture in such a way is appalling."
>Nina Paley expressed surprise at the adverse reaction, saying "I thought it might be a bit controversial, but I wasn’t fully aware of how art and artists are major targets of some right-wing nationalist groups in India. I always imagine an audience of smart, compassionate people I’d enjoy spending time with." However, in an interview with India-West, she did acknowledge that Lord Ram is not depicted well in the film. She added to the source: "No one has to like it.
TL;DR - Just watch the Ramayana anime film. That's an actual passion project of the director.
By the way, she didn't stop with this film either. She made a film after this reframing the Book of Exodus called This Land is Mine as the origin story for the patriarchy. She also makes Israel's children look ugly, cause she reuses the Rama design from SSTB.
After which, she was fucking over Jews called Seder-Masochism where she bitching about polytheistic feminist-centred religions & likens Judaic history was likened to the KKK & 9/11 (honestly based, despite her being a Jew too).
On a side-note Nina Paley, she also defended J.K. Rowling against the troons, so credit where it's due for her
I expected someone to bring up the manga (I think To Love Ru) where the mangaka based the main love interest on his wife and then they got into a nasty divorce, which resulted with the manga getting remade with a new heroine.
Titus. Based on the life of the show creator and protagonist, Christopher Titus, the show had the girlfriend, Erin, being a normal person among the crazy that he loved dearly and was happy to finally find a good woman. IRL, after they got married, after the show cancellation, Erin cheated on him, scammed him I think, and left him, so they divorced.
It's been mentioned in the MCU thread, but too many comics are just the writer venting about their bad love lives. Current main Spiderman comic is absolutely hated because the writer just got a divorce and he's destroying what's left of MJ as a character.
Didn't the For Better and For Worse creator turn the strip into her personal fanfiction when her husband divorced her for someone younger and hotter, and that included turning everyone based on their family into her personal wishes for them? I say so because everyone despised the sudden, inexplicable choice the daughter-insert did where she moved from being a teacher in the Canadian Shield back home and marry some loser she dated in college, then it became known that's what the author WISHED her daughter did.
IIRC it was his syndication company that wanted the reruns. Even with it's downward spiral, the strip remained insanely profitable and the condition for her allowing it to remain in syndication was to do the occasional new flashback strip to allow for alignment with the Monday-Saturday daily strips when they started rerunning the strip from the beginning.
I don't know if you'd call it "working out", but Yukio Mishima's wife fought hard for any critical works regarding her husband's life/art/suicide to be banned within the extent of Japanese law.
The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things is a book that was about the author's fucked up childhood but turned out to be complete fiction. This revelation came out after an equally fucked up movie was made based on the book. And there's even more fucked up behind the scenes shit in the film if you know anything about the drama following Asia Argento.
One example that comes to mind but is cringe/embarrassing to know, Britta on Community was based on Dan Hormons beard (girlfriend), supposedly one of the reasons she became so annoying in later seasons is because he had broken up with the inspiration for the character at that point.
Doesn't almost every Stephen King book have a character that's basically Stephen King? Like Bill in IT, or the guy watching a child gang bang from the bushes in IT.
Trey's fiancé cheated on him and to get back at her he named the horse in Cannibal the Musical Liane. Evidently, Trey still wasn't over it because years into South Park's run we find out the first name of Cartman's mom is... Liane.
