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The fucking black pillers said the same shit about securing our border/keeping illegal immigration low, the releasing of the JFK files, pardoning of all the Jan 6 people, etc.. They say they want change when in reality they are married to the status quo and would rather act like there's no tangible change.
That's why I went out of my way to viciously attack them when the thread was created. What they do is a form of "concern trolling". Concern trolling is a very effective way to demoralize a group of people. Having "allies" show worry and concern makes people feel worried or concerned too; consensus is part of assessing optimism and success.

Concern trolling works so well because it seems indistinguishable from real concerns by actual allies. One way to deal with it is to mock their feigned concern (e.g. "Bad things might happen! Ignore anything good ever happening! Bad person did something good—still bad! Small good thing done—bad, didn't fix the whole problem!"). You can run down the flowchart of possible futures; which often reveals they think a positive outcome is impossible. You can ask them for realistic solutions and fallback plans. You can just bluntly tell them they are being a whiny faggot (depending on the group and context).

Concern trolling is one of the main ways 4chan has been destroyed by shills and bots. Endless infighting about how nothing will ever get better. 4chan's culture of being contrarian makes concern trolling easier. The site owner faciliting the concern trolling dooms 4chan to being a demoralization tarpit.

Authentic negative criticism has remedies, alternatives, fallbacks, and personal preferences. Concern trolls avoid seeing anything positive like a vampire avoids a cross.
 
I'm not even following what they're pissing their pants over. Is the fear that the government's just going to start arbitrarily labeling people baddies to deport/imprison them?

Do they really think that wasn't always happening? Lol, lmao even.
They know they that's what they would do with these powers, so of course that's what they think Trump is about to do to them.
 
That's why I went out of my way to viciously attack them when the thread was created. What they do is a form of "concern trolling". Concern trolling is a very effective way to demoralize a group of people. Having "allies" show worry and concern makes people feel worried or concerned too; consensus is part of assessing optimism and success.

Concern trolling works so well because it seems indistinguishable from real concerns by actual allies. One way to deal with it is to mock their feigned concern (e.g. "Bad things might happen! Ignore anything good ever happening! Bad person did something good—still bad! Small good thing done—bad, didn't fix the whole problem!"). You can run down the flowchart of possible futures; which often reveals they think a positive outcome is impossible. You can ask them for realistic solutions and fallback plans. You can just bluntly tell them they are being a whiny faggot (depending on the group and context).

Concern trolling is one of the main ways 4chan has been destroyed by shills and bots. Endless infighting about how nothing will ever get better. 4chan's culture of being contrarian makes concern trolling easier. The site owner faciliting the concern trolling dooms 4chan to being a demoralization tarpit.

Authentic negative criticism has remedies, alternatives, fallbacks, and personal preferences. Concern trolls avoid seeing anything positive like a vampire avoids a cross.
Demoralization is a standard propaganda tactic. Best response is "Shut the fuck up faggot"
 
That's why I went out of my way to viciously attack them when the thread was created. What they do is a form of "concern trolling". Concern trolling is a very effective way to demoralize a group of people. Having "allies" show worry and concern makes people feel worried or concerned too; consensus is part of assessing optimism and success.

Concern trolling works so well because it seems indistinguishable from real concerns by actual allies. One way to deal with it is to mock their feigned concern (e.g. "Bad things might happen! Ignore anything good ever happening! Bad person did something good—still bad! Small good thing done—bad, didn't fix the whole problem!"). You can run down the flowchart of possible futures; which often reveals they think a positive outcome is impossible. You can ask them for realistic solutions and fallback plans. You can just bluntly tell them they are being a whiny faggot (depending on the group and context).

Concern trolling is one of the main ways 4chan has been destroyed by shills and bots. Endless infighting about how nothing will ever get better. 4chan's culture of being contrarian makes concern trolling easier. The site owner faciliting the concern trolling dooms 4chan to being a demoralization tarpit.

Authentic negative criticism has remedies, alternatives, fallbacks, and personal preferences. Concern trolls avoid seeing anything positive like a vampire avoids a cross.
The death of 4 Chan made me somewhat paranoid about online discourse and I assume bad faith in a lot of places where patience might serve better. That’s why I get mad about shit.. the thought I might be wasting my time and humoring some retard

Especially when it’s vague, evasive, repetitive, etc, which a lot of the stuff about “oh who’s going to work in these proposed FACTORIES, hmmmm” feels like
 
That's why I went out of my way to viciously attack them when the thread was created. What they do is a form of "concern trolling". Concern trolling is a very effective way to demoralize a group of people. Having "allies" show worry and concern makes people feel worried or concerned too; consensus is part of assessing optimism and success.

Concern trolling works so well because it seems indistinguishable from real concerns by actual allies. One way to deal with it is to mock their feigned concern (e.g. "Bad things might happen! Ignore anything good ever happening! Bad person did something good—still bad! Small good thing done—bad, didn't fix the whole problem!"). You can run down the flowchart of possible futures; which often reveals they think a positive outcome is impossible. You can ask them for realistic solutions and fallback plans. You can just bluntly tell them they are being a whiny faggot (depending on the group and context).

Concern trolling is one of the main ways 4chan has been destroyed by shills and bots. Endless infighting about how nothing will ever get better. 4chan's culture of being contrarian makes concern trolling easier. The site owner faciliting the concern trolling dooms 4chan to being a demoralization tarpit.

Authentic negative criticism has remedies, alternatives, fallbacks, and personal preferences. Concern trolls avoid seeing anything positive like a vampire avoids a cross.
Fucking incredible post, i've noticed this as well and couldn't put it into words like this. Especially the part about 4chan. I saw that vibe shift happen, particularly related to any threads surrounding china, and it was so uncanny but took me a while to figure out what was going on.

It's also really bad on youtube. So many people "concerend" that the US is ruining it's soft power, europeans and canadians who feel SO betrayed, in this very thread you have buckbroken chimp doing this.

So I pick up the phone and what do all of my real life canadian and euro friends have to say about all this horrible tariff and nato betrayal? Absolutely fucking nothing. Most of them don't even know it's going on, at all. What do my brother's coworkers in germany think? Not a damn thing. The worst response I got was "it will make my flight a bit more expensive".

It's such a joke.

Edit: On 4chan despite seeing hints of it here and there for years, the main giveaway was when the narrative turned on a dime from "Trump can't win" "They won't let him win" "yeah it would be great if he won but he just won't" to "HES ACTUALLY BAD FOR THE USA" "MIGA MGIA MIGA" "FELL FOR IT AGAIN". Absolutely useless website.
 
Fucking incredible post, i've noticed this as well and couldn't put it into words like this. Especially the part about 4chan. I saw that vibe shift happen, particularly related to any threads surrounding china, and it was so uncanny but took me a while to figure out what was going on.

It's also really bad on youtube. So many people "concerend" that the US is ruining it's soft power, europeans and canadians who feel SO betrayed, in this very thread you have buckbroken chimp doing this.

So I pick up the phone and what do all of my real life canadian and euro friends have to say about all this horrible tariff and nato betrayal? Absolutely fucking nothing. Most of them don't even know it's going on, at all. What do my brother's coworkers in germany think? Not a damn thing. The worst response I got was "it will make my flight a bit more expensive".

It's such a joke.
It's honestly another way they try to abuse our empathy. If it isn't "10 pictures that will make you say fuck having laws and borders and sheeit" it's "I'm concerned that Trump will deport citizens next".

Bottom line is nobody gets to tell us what to be concerned about, that's for us to figure out for ourselves. Concern trolls will always find the fly in the ointment, but all they want to do is get more people to reeee about the fly, even if it's smaller than a gnat.
 
Edit: On 4chan despite seeing hints of it here and there for years, the main giveaway was when the narrative turned on a dime from "Trump can't win" "They won't let him win" "yeah it would be great if he won but he just won't" to "HES ACTUALLY BAD FOR THE USA" "MIGA MGIA MIGA" "FELL FOR IT AGAIN". Absolutely useless website.
That’s why I was so pissed off yesterday! I checked the thread and it was all blackout doom mode. It was a Sunday so it couldn’t even be the stock market setting people off

It’s like you look away for a second and check back and the tone has entirely shifted
 
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