Celebrity Meghan Markle / Rachel Meghan Markle / Meghan, Duchess of Sussex / Meghan Sussex / The Alliterate One - Markle Snarkle

[John Andrews Stan]

"I am so happy for my wife and fully support absolutely everything she's done and continues to do.”

Sounds like a hostage statement, but the reality is Meghan is all he has left.

BTW, “absolutely everything” now includes Meghan hawking clothing beloved by Charlotte and Catherine, all for a tidy commission. Monetizing their family, whether the family consented or not, was always their game plan.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I wonder if Harry ever thinks about how close he was to having his dream post-royal life. If he had bought a place outside of Hollyweird and lived within his means, and if Meghan wasn't constantly chasing notoriety, he'd probably be perfectly happy raising chickens and doing nothing in particular. He'd probably still be in the tabloids now and then, but only when there isn't more important Bat Boy or Elvis-sighting news to cover.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I wonder if Harry ever thinks about how close he was to having his dream post-royal life. If he had bought a place outside of Hollyweird and lived within his means, and if Meghan wasn't constantly chasing notoriety, he'd probably be perfectly happy raising chickens and doing nothing in particular. He'd probably still be in the tabloids now and then, but only when there isn't more important Bat Boy or Elvis-sighting news to cover.

That's a wild assumption. He was ultimately drawn to Meghan for a reason - he might be dumb as a rock, but he's also not some poor innocent little boy who got manipulated by a harpy. Harry absolutely wants the spotlight and most of all, hurt his brother and his family for being the crown heir.

 

[duckling]

I wonder if Harry ever thinks about how close he was to having his dream post-royal life. If he had bought a place outside of Hollyweird and lived within his means, and if Meghan wasn't constantly chasing notoriety, he'd probably be perfectly happy raising chickens and doing nothing in particular. He'd probably still be in the tabloids now and then, but only when there isn't more important Bat Boy or Elvis-sighting news to cover.

I do think he would have generally preferred that to what he has now, certainly. However, Harry has stated that he only left the royal family because of Meghan and I believe him. I personally think he would be much happier puttering about in frogmore cottage, with room and board guaranteed for life.

 

[Wargarbl]

I do think he would have generally preferred that to what he has now, certainly. However, Harry has stated that he only left the royal family because of Meghan and I believe him. I personally think he would be much happier puttering about in frogmore cottage, with room and board guaranteed for life.

I think Meghan encouraged every toxic trait he had and exploited all his worst instincts. Meghan saw her ticket to the next level in a ginger simpleton with hyper-elite connections. Harry is an incredibly easy target because he's very, very stupid and has an inferiority complex.

It's too bad his family couldn't save him from himself/Meghan. Otherwise he'd probably still be among the best liked royals, helping with charities for military vets and children who suffered family tragedies, getting drunk and banging whores, and laughing it up with his buddies. Anything has to be preferable to being a harpy's thrall that she barely has use for anymore.

It's also important to note that the palace staff was there to look after his image, as well as Meghan's. You can be sure the staff Meghan found is there to make Meghan alone look good; if Harry needs to go under the bus, no worries.

 

[Free the Pedos]

If he had bought a place outside of Hollyweird and lived within his means, and if Meghan wasn't constantly chasing notoriety, he'd probably be perfectly happy raising chickens and doing nothing in particular.

I don't think he's ever wanted a quiet, modest life. The closest he might enjoy is being a hunting guide in Africa, which maybe he could've had if he hadn't been shitty to Chelsea.
Sucks to suck.

 

[obsdj]

It's too bad his family couldn't save him from himself/Meghan. Otherwise he'd probably still be among the best liked royals, helping with charities for military vets and children who suffered family tragedies, getting drunk and banging whores, and laughing it up with his buddies. Anything has to be preferable to being a harpy's thrall that she barely has use for anymore. He's a really pathetic figure.

He really is the embodiment of that "When A Man Loves A Woman" song. And he is dumb as a box of dumb rocks, but he's smart enough to know on the inside that she is the reason he can't go home and be a prince again.

 

[Barbarella]

This security thing is weird. Why does Harry need security paid for by the U.K. when he doesn’t live there any more. Has there been any attempts on his life? Why is Hollywood-type security not good enough for him?

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Meghan allegedly had about 5 million from suits

from what i know about USA channel salaries that doesn't sound true at all, Suits the show had a budget of around $2 million an episode and they had a half dozen cast members. when you factor out the taxes and agent fees and assume she saved every time from the show she'd have to be clearing 100k an episode of 5% of a show's budget when she's the 6th most important character on the show. if she's making that much imagine what the leads must have been making.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I don't think he's ever wanted a quiet, modest life. The closest he might enjoy is being a hunting guide in Africa

Yeah, something like that. Not "modest" but "rich-ish guy who doesn't really have to do anything in particular". He could've had that, just not in a mega-mansion.

 

[vercingotisrix]

This security thing is weird. Why does Harry need security paid for by the U.K. when he doesn’t live there any more. Has there been any attempts on his life? Why is Hollywood-type security not good enough for him?

I remember turning this one over and over ways back when he started yammering about it.

I think it was partially that his paranoia was kicked into overdrive when he was unceremoniously dropped from royal duties and thus lost all protection, and partially that he doesn’t want to carry the costs of what their private security costs them in the US (never mind that they have far more than they need). If he gets his protection unit/status back in the UK (which won’t happen, I think RAVEC has already made that abundantly clear) the US would have to pay for their protection, iirc.

I also think he/they have gotten used to a certain level of protection and need to to keep up appearances and feel important. Cf the never ending motorcades.

 

[obsdj]

I remember turning this one over and over ways back when he started yammering about it.

I think it was partially that his paranoia was kicked into overdrive when he was unceremoniously dropped from royal duties and thus lost all protection, and partially that he doesn’t want to carry the costs of what their private security costs them in the US (never mind that they have far more than they need). If he gets his protection unit/status back in the UK (which won’t happen, I think RAVEC has already made that abundantly clear) the US would have to pay for their protection, iirc.

I also think he/they have gotten used to a certain level of protection and need to to keep up appearances and feel important. Cf the never ending motorcades.

Not to mention his obsession with how Mummy died. I think I've mentioned this before but he is still trying to "save" her by "protecting" Meghan, in my opinion. All of that "Trust me. I'll keep you safe" in the book relates to it.

 

[vercingotisrix]

when you factor out the taxes and agent fees and assume she saved every time from the show she'd have to be clearing 100k an episode of 5% of a show's budget when she's the 6th most important character on the show. if she's making that much imagine what the leads must have been making.

Nah. I think the $5 mill was something she floated in media prior to the wedding to avoid the gold digger quips. Honestly, she had barely anything before she met Harry, including having to rent her living space. (Nothing wrong with that, but it’s normal to go straight to buying once you pass a certain level of income, unless you hate banks and/or desperately need the money for something else.)

 

[nigel p poppycock]

That's a wild assumption. He was ultimately drawn to Meghan for a reason - he might be dumb as a rock, but he's also not some poor innocent little boy who got manipulated by a harpy. Harry absolutely wants the spotlight and most of all, hurt his brother and his family for being the crown heir.

Weren't he, William and Catherine close, though? I seem to remember a three musketeers vibe going on before Meghan, and not jealousy over being the Spare, although I admittedly didn't pay much attention back then.

I do think he would have generally preferred that to what he has now, certainly. However, Harry has stated that he only left the royal family because of Meghan and I believe him.

Not to mention his obsession with how Mummy died. I think I've mentioned this before but he is still trying to "save" her by "protecting" Meghan, in my opinion. All of that "Trust me. I'll keep you safe" in the book relates to it.

And I bet it's been his kryptonite. Female narcs tend to find men with savior complexes. I was wondering what Harry's was--and this is it. As long as Meghan plays the victim, he's going to believe her above everyone else and his own common sense. This happens over and over with non-royal/famous couples; these two aren't any different.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Weren't he, William and Catherine close, though? I seem to remember a three musketeers vibe going on before Meghan, and not jealousy over being the Spare, although I admittedly didn't pay much attention back then.

I recommend reading "Spare". There's a not-so-subtle undertone of absolute resentment there.

 

[nigel p poppycock]

I recommend reading "Spare". There's a not-so-subtle undertone of absolute resentment there.

Do you think it's always been there, though? Spare was written after he married Meghan. Just wondering if there was some whispering in his ear about how he should feel toward his family.

 

[Barbarella]

Harry’s resentment is even in the name of the book. He very much felt like a spare, and was jealous of his brother over very petty things, from Willy’s better view out of his bedroom window to his better grades and good friends. He details a couple good times he had with his brother, the rest is just one whiney complaint about his brother after another.

I didn’t realize Harry wanted the US to pay for his security. That’s crazy and I doubt it’ll ever happen. But I do understand his paranoia, stemming from his mother’s death, too many drugs and a wide load of stupidity, and his racist belief that him marrying a “black” woman would cause everybody to want to kill them all. From what I’ve seen his kids are a ginger and a blonde but I guess he still believes the one drop rule.

 

[duckling]

Harry’s resentment is even in the name of the book. He very much felt like a spare, and was jealous of his brother over very petty things, from Willy’s better view out of his bedroom window to his better grades and good friends. He details a couple good times he had with his brother, the rest is just one whiney complaint about his brother after another.

I didn’t realize Harry wanted the US to pay for his security. That’s crazy and I doubt it’ll ever happen. But I do understand his paranoia, stemming from his mother’s death, too many drugs and a wide load of stupidity, and his racist belief that him marrying a “black” woman would cause everybody to want to kill them all. From what I’ve seen his kids are a ginger and a blonde but I guess he still believes the one drop rule.

I think the resentment is largely retrospective, though. If he hadn’t been denied the Hi/Ho he would have just dealt. Bitched in private, but dealt. He’s spent the past five years simmering and seething with no opportunity to hash it out because he is being utterly grey rocked and it is making him spiral, IMO. i think his ghost writer also dug in deeper than a therapist trying to get him to dredge up all the he/me nothingisms he crapped out about William.

 

[MongInTheMirror]

I remember turning this one over and over ways back when he started yammering about it.

I think it was partially that his paranoia was kicked into overdrive when he was unceremoniously dropped from royal duties and thus lost all protection, and partially that he doesn’t want to carry the costs of what their private security costs them in the US (never mind that they have far more than they need). If he gets his protection unit/status back in the UK (which won’t happen, I think RAVEC has already made that abundantly clear) the US would have to pay for their protection, iirc.

I also think he/they have gotten used to a certain level of protection and need to to keep up appearances and feel important. Cf the never ending motorcades.

It's also really obviously something that Meghan had been exacerbating since she arrived on-scene as part of her Diana LARP, as well as crucial to both of their sense of self-importance. Neither of them seem able/ willing to admit to the true nature of their fame: that they are basically both 'literally who's absent the link to his family. Her far more so, of course, but really both of them. Neither of them are interesting, or intelligent, or charismatic, or even remarkably good-looking, and yet they both have this incredibly overriding main character syndrome making them assume they are utterly riveting to people in a way they're just... not.

I posted a couple pages back about how the media coverage really wasn't that bad when they were dating/ before the wedding, compared to how they both talk about it. 99% of it was incredibly tepid, lukewarm interest, and yet Harry felt the need to sport constantly about it in the media. I think Meghan has been feeding Harry's paranoia about this from Day 1, and he's as susceptible as he is because it fits perfectly with his inferiority complex vis-à-vis William (plus stupid).

TL;DR: If they admitted they didn't need the security, they'd have to admit that no-one cars enough to kidnap either of them; even if they did, Wills & Kate would more likely pay a ransom for them not to be returned.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

This security thing is weird. Why does Harry need security paid for by the U.K. when he doesn’t live there any more. Has there been any attempts on his life? Why is Hollywood-type security not good enough for him?

He wants to be able to bring his kids to the UK but will only do so if he’s allowed to have armed security AND if the government will give his security classified intel about threat levels at any given time.

He’s an entitled brat. It’s not deep.