Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Its always interesting to me that Lily describes the end of her getting access to Courtney and Brittany both as "breakups." She claims she "broke up" with an out lesbian who only really knew her as male for their entire friendship, and that she "broke up" with her fucking sister. Yet, Britt and Courtney never describe them as such. To me it seems that Lily is more angry these relationships ended- when they shouldn't have been happening in the first place. Her calling them break ups is the biggest telling on herself she does.

On what earth does "I broke up with my sister when I was 17. She used to rape me" not sound highly suspect?

If she says she broke up with someone, it makes her look more reasonable. Keyword being "looks".

 

[BrokenGlassofWater]

CD-Call has mentioned in her "harassment video" that she focuses on characters and themes. While she contradicted herself on multiple occasions, I have yet to hear CD-Call claim, "I cover stories."

On another note, I had tried to dig up any kind of police report on anything regarding CD-Call, and didn't find anything. Is there any chance CD-Call's father and/or Cameron covered for her?

 

[A Watchful Ghost]

CD-Call has mentioned in her "harassment video" that she focuses on characters and themes

Problem is without a story. The characters and themes completely fall fucking apart as it requires minimum a connective narrative tissue to keep them together. Something to keep them going to their goal, otherwise there are no characters, or themes to explore. This is why It angers me whenever Peet talk about these without even covering the story at all. Which is the entire base WHY they are allowed to grow and develop, and how it connects to them.

It just reeks once again how this motherfucker just has the analysis skills of a chimpanzee, and only wants those characters and themes to deprive them for their own wishes.

 

[AMHOLIO]

It just reeks once again how this motherfucker just has the analysis skills of a chimpanzee, and only wants those characters and themes to deprive them for their own wishes.

Basically. He doesn't even want a story, he wants a toyset he can sit there and make shit up with. That's fine, but unfortunately, he decided to be an internet reviewer and now he will forever be fighting and asshurt about his opinions because they're public.

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

Basically. He doesn't even want a story, he wants a toyset he can sit there and make shit up with. That's fine, but unfortunately, he decided to be an internet reviewer and now he will forever be fighting and asshurt about his opinions because they're public.

Yes, exactly!

Does Lily seriously say she 'concentrates on characters and themes'? Characters, maybe, and almost entirely in the context of their romantic interests (or their siblings, but I repeat myself), but themes? Really? She doesn't discuss themes, because themes exist in the context of a story. A character unmoored from their story isn't truly a character. Even action figures have a backstory on the box.

That's why her 'coffee shop AU uwu domestic ~relationships~' writing is so TERRIBLE. Her characters only exist in context of each other, and basically just have some pointless internal struggle entirely ABOUT that relationship, where one of them doubts some aspect of it so the other tells them to stop and then they realize there was never really a problem and they basically just wind up where they started just to have the same conversation later.

It's just the same thing over and over again, MAYBE with a different coat of paint. But you get down to the fundamentals: Character A thinks they're a burden o Character B; Character B tells them they aren't, and also they're the most wonderful perfect thing ever and they shouldn't have to hurt and they will always be protected and they deserve so much better and the world is so mean to them; Character A hugs B and whispers about they'll never be apart.

I am frustrated all over again by how she just... never even tries. She's TEASED some actual conflicts before, like G being hurt and Lily having to become her caretaker, or the League realizing Lily and G formed a mating bond and actually holding them to account, or Avatar Niva becoming SO dependent on her sister that she winds up leaning more and more into that codependency-- at least in that context it sounded like it was supposed to be a bad thing. But when she decides 'actually that was too hard to write so I didn't do it' and then writes more pablum.

I'm guessing it's because these ideas aren't really coming from Lily but from some outside force that she briefly thinks 'I should do that' and just peters out because she doesn't actually have the creative capacity. It's like how Niva dies from radiation poisoning. Ain't no way Lily actually thought of that on her own, she probably just watched Chernobyl, vomited out the idea with minimal Avatar adornment, and then promptly lost interest and went back to writing siblings getting uncomfortably handsy with each other.

 

[BrokenGlassofWater]

I remembered CD-Call, in her first livestream as CD-Call, talking about how she's going for a nicer, bouncier vibe now, and I kinda laugh at that because by the second video, she goes back on it!

Congratulations CD-Call, you set yourself up for a joke.

Here's the extended version.

And here's the shorter version.

 

[BrokenGlassofWater]

Does Lily seriously say she 'concentrates on characters and themes'?

Oh yeah, CD-Call definitely said she covers characters and themes.
Here she is talking about it at the intro of her "harassment video".

 

[teriyakiburns]

Does Lily seriously say she 'concentrates on characters and themes'? Characters, maybe, and almost entirely in the context of their romantic interests (or their siblings, but I repeat myself), but themes? Really? She doesn't discuss themes, because themes exist in the context of a story.

Incest is a theme.

 

[SatanicPanic]

Incest is a theme.

Sure. But Lily ain't no V.C. Andrews. She communicates the disgust and horror and cognitive dissonance of the subject matter very poorly.

Mostly because she doesn't want to explore the the theme. She wants to jerk off to porn of her own making.

 

[Urgunt]

i've been trying to pierce into the lily lore and it's only dawned on me now, why do people refer to him with correct pronouns? and why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this? not to politisperg or whatever the fuck, ultimately i dont give a shit, but i thought it was the farms whole gimmick to hate troons, and from what I've gathered of jerry/lily being an incestuous child rapist groomer it's shocking that people respect his pronouns lmao

 

[ShiftyBoi]

i've been trying to pierce into the lily lore and it's only dawned on me now, why do people refer to him with correct pronouns? and why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this? not to politisperg or whatever the fuck, ultimately i dont give a shit, but i thought it was the farms whole gimmick to hate troons, and from what I've gathered of jerry/lily being an incestuous child rapist groomer it's shocking that people respect his pronouns lmao

To put it simply, this thread has been around for a loooong time. Way before KF got the reputation as the tranny murder site and before it became an echo chamber.
The arguments been had like 12 times, there's a mutual understanding that arguing about it isn't really productive. Lily being trans is the least interesting part about her compared to her feelings for her sister and her constant lying.

On top of that, only a specific sort of people are really invested in Lily, mostly autistic people from tumblr. These people mixing in with your average Kiwi would do nothing but shit up the thread all day everyday, so it's best to ignore how people choose to address Lily.

When someone says "Jerry" or "Lily" we all fucking know who they're talking about. It doesn't make a difference, and talking about lolcows is supposed to be fun. Have fun instead!

 

[NoCockatrice]

i've been trying to pierce into the lily lore and it's only dawned on me now, why do people refer to him with correct pronouns? and why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this? not to politisperg or whatever the fuck, ultimately i dont give a shit, but i thought it was the farms whole gimmick to hate troons, and from what I've gathered of jerry/lily being an incestuous child rapist groomer it's shocking that people respect his pronouns lmao

I hardly agree with you.

There is a tremendous difference between an actual trans person (an individual with hormonal & neurological abnormalities, who just wants to live a normal live) and this disgusting sex pest AGP, who doesn't even try to sound and/or act remotely feminine, mind you.

You know what? Hell, I think calling ""Lily"" a "she" is in fact transphobic, because you're enabling this borderline rapist stealing an important medical term from people who actually need it.

In other words, as they say nowadays: "my culture is not your costume"

 

[Pavel Yudin]

i've been trying to pierce into the lily lore and it's only dawned on me now, why do people refer to him with correct pronouns? and why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this? not to politisperg or whatever the fuck, ultimately i dont give a shit, but i thought it was the farms whole gimmick to hate troons, and from what I've gathered of jerry/lily being an incestuous child rapist groomer it's shocking that people respect his pronouns lmao

Sigh. We circle back to this every twenty pages or so. As Shiftyboi said, it's no use fighting over her pronouns. No one cares. Misgender him. Gender her correctly. Whatever.
Many agree to use her pronouns for the sake of being taken seriously by people outside of the farms and to not have our opinions dismissed as a transphobic mob; which Lily does anyway, but people exist outside of Lily.
"Why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this"? Because we're mature adults who've come to the conclusion it really doesn't matter. We might find the other opinion stupid for using such and such pronouns, but we won't spend twelve pages arguing over whether we should use she or him for this hulking, disgusting degenerate beast.

 

[Urgunt]

"Why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this"? Because we're mature adults who've come to the conclusion it really doesn't matter. We might find the other opinion stupid for using such and such pronouns, but we won't spend twelve pages arguing over whether we should use she or him for this hulking, disgusting degenerate beast.

I'm not exactly dogging on this thread for this, it's just a bit of a culture shock as a newfag since I've seen other threads devolve into tranny derangement syndrome.

 

[BrokenGlassofWater]

i've been trying to pierce into the lily lore and it's only dawned on me now, why do people refer to him with correct pronouns? and why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this? not to politisperg or whatever the fuck, ultimately i dont give a shit, but i thought it was the farms whole gimmick to hate troons, and from what I've gathered of jerry/lily being an incestuous child rapist groomer it's shocking that people respect his pronouns lmao

Everyone has their reasons.
In my case, I don't refer to CD-Call by her present name and pronouns because I have any respect for her. I do it under the notion that her trans-identity has nothing to do with my criticisms.

A lot of people are under the impression that KiwiFarms' whole gimmick is "to hate troons".
While I do think that's true, at least to a point where I can sympathize with that disgust, being here to comb through the evidence had lead me to realize that there is (for a lack of a better term) an exaggeration. Have people been hurt because of things that happened on KiwiFarms? Very likely, but I have yet to find anything that would suggest anything of that extreme happening to CD-Call. The only critical difference that I've been able to see is the use of slurs and misgendering.

CD-Call weaponizes that exaggeration to encourage people not to look in here for evidence. The fact CD-Call told me and many other people like me not to do it was exactly the reason why I chose to do it. She destroyed whatever credibility she had left and giving her opinion any consideration made me realize I had given her power over my thinking that she should not have had in the first place.

The following quote from ShiftyBoi pretty much sums up the unspoken understanding between everyone.

The arguments been had like 12 times, there's a mutual understanding that arguing about it isn't really productive. Lily being trans is the least interesting part about her compared to her feelings for her sister and her constant lying.

On top of that, only a specific sort of people are really invested in Lily, mostly autistic people from tumblr. These people mixing in with your average Kiwi would do nothing but shit up the thread all day everyday, so it's best to ignore how people choose to address Lily.

Funny enough, I got my start in criticizing CD-Call on Tumblr, and it's actually on Tumblr where I got the anonymous question why I should be taken seriously, even though I'm a KiwiFarms user. My answer is the same every time - I have a goal in mind, I'm combing through the evidence, and CD-Call cannot say that I'm not being thorough.

You know what? Hell, I think calling ""Lily"" a "she" is in fact transphobic, because you're enabling this borderline rapist stealing an important medical term from people who actually need it.

In other words, as they say nowadays: "my culture is not your costume"

I see your thought process, but my only concern with it is adding a moral stipulation on someone's internal convictions about themselves. CD-Call does strike me as a borderline-rapist, but that doesn't change the fact she believes herself to be female. I may not like that one bit because of those very grievances, but I cannot tell CD-Call how she should feel about how she feels about herself beyond feeling ashamed for hurting as many people she's hurt.

Many agree to use her pronouns for the sake of being taken seriously by people outside of the farms and to not have our opinions dismissed as a transphobic mob; which Lily does anyway, but people exist outside of Lily.

Not using her pronouns is definitely something CD-Call can weaponize and does use on a regular basis, even if she has been documented to doing the same thing at this point.

"Why aren't kiwis cannibalizing one another over this"? Because we're mature adults who've come to the conclusion it really doesn't matter.

And that's something I think the person who asked me that anon question doesn't understand. It is possible that they're so blinded by the fact that I use KiwiFarms as a means to discredit me, they're not bothering to check and see what I claim is true. I've always made it clear that this is about CD-Call, and with exception to the one time I had to go into Patricia Taxxon's thread, it's always been that way.

Which leads me to this final point: I know KiwiFarms has a shit reputation because of the bad apples on the site, but can I just take a moment to say thank you? I'm serious, even though I'm putting my reputation on the line for doing this, just about everyone I've engaged with here has been engaging and helpful, and that means a lot.

 

[SatanicPanic]

You know what? Hell, I think calling ""Lily"" a "she" is in fact transphobic, because you're enabling this borderline rapist stealing an important medical term from people who actually need it.

Not for nothing but the no true scottsmaning of trans people that I see aimed at people like Lily has a harmful side effect.

What happens when "one of the good ones" with a long standing presence as a trans public figure gets outed as a predator?

"If you're a bad person you can't be trans" is logically followed by "if you're trans you can't be a bad person."

This kind of logic is what lets predators swim freely in minority groups. It's what creates monsters like Orchard. This is not unique to the trans community either.

Ultimately trans people are just people. There's good, bad, harmless, and truly the most vile within that population as there is in any population. Having this same fight over and over again is tiresome. If you stop treating it like a cookie or a trophy and just for what it is: utterly mundane and extraordinary, it not only allows regular trans people just trying to live their lives be able to do so without scrutiny, but it takes away the ability the identity can be used as a shield. I will not be fooling myself into thinking both are of equal merit to most KF users, but the latter at the very least should give you some pause as to why this is an entirely unhelpful thing to say.

Finally, last I checked, being trans isn't a pie. It doesn't run out, there's no cap to how many people can call themselves this. Relax.

 

[ÁchtunaRoll]

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Lio Convoy vs Lawyer Barbea (And More!)​

Sai
15.6K subscribers

Order in the court!
[Credit to Liquid ]
Sai's stream is a reaction to LioConvoy.
Lio will not go after Lily because she will laugh in his face. Our girl does not bend to fat man children who bully people on Discord in the Walmart Mcdonalds.

The Lion with Daddy Issues has become a side character for the Tism Trio. Lio has stated he has a scrape of Sai's Discord. Like that's meant to scare anyone.

Lio, you fool! Don't tarry from the light! You can't handle the autism event horizon! You don't know what it's like in there, man! That autism ate my entire platoon and now I'm the only one left, surviving off Lihapyöryköitä and Sai's Homemade Chowder.

Spoiler: What It's Like In Sai's Sanctum

...It's a fucking prison....

Movie: I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK (2006)

Jokes aside there's nothing in there, Lio is wasting his time which is a net positive for everyone involved.
All they do all day is chat shit, draw furry art, and laugh. Not to let everyone peek behind the curtain but Sai's server respects Devil and his work, Shifty and his art, and they take time out of the day to make fun of me. (Liquid especially likes to make little pngs of me for fun) Which I support

Hi Everyone. When do we become the rats in the wall?

Sai: The Kiwi Farms Spy is the one i'm least worried about! They are harmless! They think I'm funny.

TLDW: Lio is a loser who no one should be scared of or take seriously.

ETA:

"Social media is so stressful and makes people so angry!"That's because you follow 1500 people and chase drama rabbit holes all day.Social Media doesn't create a problem, it enables one. Before Twitter you were watching TMZ and reading tabloids.Twitter may be new, but you were always a bitch.

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[A Watchful Ghost]

That's you. THAT'S YOU, PEET.

 

[Dinosours]

The only thing in sai's server are a bunch of autists and a retard who posts voice notes in public chats. Idk what lio thinks he has there.

 

[NoCockatrice]

"one of the good ones"

But here's the thing: Lily never was "one of the good ones". Was an annoying retard right from the beginning. "Stockholm" was written a long time ago as well.

"If you're a bad person you can't be trans" is logically followed by "if you're trans you can't be a bad person."

This is the substitution of concepts. There is a difference between being a "bad person" and being a literal borderline-pedo-rapist [ALLEGEDLY]. Sure, there are dumb, insufferable trans people, but they're not borderline criminals.

It is extremely rare to be trans. It is also rare to be a borderline-pedo-rapist. It is even more rare to be a female borderline-pedo-rapist. Now, can you imagine how rare that would be to be a transfemale borderline-pedo-rapist? Either a 1 in a trillion thing or not a thing at all (which, let's be real, is the case here). It's just math.

Besides, Orchard would've felt dysphoric about his voice if he was really trans or at least tried to do something to sound more feminine. Meanwhile, he's a literal AGP bingo. Do you really not see that? This is not "True Scotsman VS Scotsman", this is "Scotsman VS Not-A-Scotsman-At-All".

This kind of logic is what lets predators swim freely in minority groups

I fail to see how it works. Saying that a pred is faking a condition to get to women and calling him out for it is harmfull? Are you nuts? No, what truly let predators swim in the trans community is the lack of proper gate keeping (mostly from medics).

Is everyone who wears a dress trans to you? Again, do you truly not see the signs of a degenerate faker? Transsexualism has a list of symptoms. If you don't have a majority of them or contradict them you're not trans. Period.

If you stop treating it like a cookie or a trophy

Where did I ever say that I treat it that way?

allows regular trans people just trying to live their lives be able to do so without scrutiny

The thing that will stop the scrutiny is getting rid of people like Orchard, Yaniv, Taxxon etc. and publicly admitting that they're fakers who just want to get to kids/women/power. Because it's just true [ALLEGEDLY].

Or do you think people can't lie about their condition to get what they want?