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Should be a wild four years.

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what implies to you that they're not doing their due diligence
It is the government if they are doing anything in under 30 days it means they are not doing due diligence. The government is at best made up of people and people are dumb, panicky, dangerous, animals. I'm glad they are cracking down on illegals. Though there is no world where letting people with GEDs figure out who is and is not a citizen doesn't end with them making a mistake at least once in 11 million attempts. To think otherwise is retardation.
 
If this is a trap by the Trump admin, it's a damned good one.

That or they just got lucky.

I think Trump has broken several of them so badly that they commit these kind of massive unforced errors without Trump even trying to do anything clever. They're so desperate that they'll seize anything that looks like a chance to spite Trump and then double down when there's any initial pushback until they find themselves in a situation where either they back down and lose face or they double down again and lose face.

But there’s always been two parties and it’s feeling kinda cockameme-y

It's a consequence of a first past the post voting system. There's no room for a viable third party because it's just another loser and will keep losing and wind up having its voters absorbed into some other party that thinks it can win with those additional votes. If one party ever did destroy the other, it would invariably split into two as it divides itself over whatever different factions within the party disagreed on. Even with two stable parties they will constantly shift positions to try to gain voters if they've been losing so that they can win again.
 
i was so interested in this i had to do the research. his grandparents were palestinian christians who moved to el salvador to escape persecution. interesting stuff, no wonder he's jumping at the chance to join up with the US, aside from being incredibly lucrative for el salvador.
Bukele on Palestine:

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“If you have a state, that state will thrive. Technology is more important than land, the Palestinians can have a state - yes, it’s smaller than the one in 1948, yes, it’s smaller than the one in the Oslo Agreements. Fine, let’s demonstrate that we can have a thriving state, peaceful and open for business."

figures the only sane Palestinian is the one that left;

BREAKING: If Harvard does not fully comply with all reporting requirements to DHS, including providing detailed records of foreign students’ misconduct on campus, Harvard will no longer be able to enroll foreign students.


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Lets see if I have it even remotely close:

A judge said that the President doesn't have the right to do President things if some district court judge says they don't want him to do President things (This happened across several districts mostly of Biden/Obama judges that aren't even citizens.)
But by the time the judge declared herself dictator (to save their democracy), the MS-13 asshole was already in the air flying to El Salvador, because fuck that wetback faggot and fuck that cunty judge
So she declared that the military had to turn around mid-flight and return him
That didn't happen
So she demanded Trump hand over all documentation about the decision making process of deciding to fly him over there when they knew she would have prohibited it
That didn't happen
So she declared that The Trump admin had to fly him back from El Salvador to the US immediately
That didn't happen
So she declared that the Trump admin had to stage an invasion of El Salvador to recover the illegal
That didn't happen
So now she's declaring Trump in contempt, maybe, sorta, ok not really but she's THINKING it real hard

Somewhere in the middle of all this it went up to SCOTUS and that lispy queer Roberts tried to split the difference and made it infinitely worse because the idiot Judge the left is forum shopping to go after Trump can't take a hint

Somewhere early on the memo got out to call him an "accidentally deported" victim when in reality he's a MS-13 member (possibly reformed, but IIRC they kill anyone who tries to leave so who knows) and was very intentionally deported, there was no accident involved

Reminder until you start spitting on them in the street and drawing up credible threats of violence against them you don't hate journalists enough
She? Judge James Boasberg is a man.
 
No idea who but all my normal coworkers are going on about some person they are certain is a citizen who was sent to El Salvador. Assuming that person is actually an illegal it is still only a matter of time, given the rapid speed of deportation processing, until an actual citizen will get the boot.
If they're so sure and they haven't informed anyone about it then your coworkers are kind of shitty.
Your coworkers are not normal. They are on the bottom 20% of the I.Q. bell curve. Confirming citizenship is trivial.
Suddenly the government is full of competent and diligent people
 

Trump Admin Directs Judges To Auto-Deny Asylum Without Hearings​


In a decisive move to address the nation’s overwhelmed immigration system, the Trump administration has rolled out a new policy directing immigration judges to swiftly dismiss asylum claims deemed legally deficient, a long-overdue measure to alleviate frivolous claims and legal loopholes that has paralyzed the US immigration court system, which has a backlog of nearly four million cases.

The policy, which took effect April 11, empowers judges to deny asylum applications early in the process if they clearly lack a legal basis, bypassing the lengthy and often unnecessary “merits hearing” phase that can drag out cases for years.

“Adjudicators have the duty to efficiently manage their dockets,” wrote Sirce Owen, acting director of the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR), in the policy memo. “It is clear from the almost four million pending cases on E.O.I.R.’s docket that has not been happening.”

For years, critics of the current system have argued that America’s generosity has been exploited by migrants who file dubious asylum claims solely to remain in the U.S. for years while awaiting hearings. Critics of America's broken immigration system have long argued that it rewards economic migrants who game the asylum process by applying without any real chance of qualifying, then using the backlog to remain in the country for years - often receiving work permits and taxpayer-funded benefits in the meantime.

Judges are now encouraged to take “all appropriate action to immediately resolve cases” that lack a viable legal path - a move that could clear out tens of thousands of meritless claims clogging the courts.

According to the Justice Department memo cited by the NY Times, "No existing regulation requires a hearing when there are no factual issues in dispute, including when the facts underlying the legal claim for asylum are undisputed, but the claim itself is legally deficient."

The move comes as immigration courts face record-breaking backlogs. Despite efforts to increase the number of immigration judges, staffing has not kept pace with the rising number of illegal border crossings and asylum applications.

With only about 700 judges managing nearly four million cases, each judge now faces a crushing caseload. The Trump administration has proposed adding more judges, but in the meantime, streamlining the process is seen as critical.

The policy could be especially effective in deterring fraudulent claims. Many migrants who arrive at the southern border file asylum claims not because they fear persecution, but because they know the system allows them to stay in the country for years regardless of merit. By allowing judges to quickly reject obviously invalid claims, the policy could reduce the incentive to abuse the system.

And of course, a Democrat judge will block this in 3, 2, 1...

Speaking of which - the move to block migrants at the front door comes as a Democrat judge, Indira Talwani, has ordered the Trump administration to require individual hearings for roughly 500,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela (CHNV) before deporting them.
 
It is the government if they are doing anything in under 30 days it means they are not doing due diligence. (more concern trolling and doomer bullshit etc etc)
Hey, how long is your nose? If you can't answer that, do you find the ideas such as 'nationalism', 'isolationism', or 'border security' unacceptable, unless the name of your country starts with I and ends with L? Is racism le bad too?
 
It is the government if they are doing anything in under 30 days it means they are not doing due diligence. The government is at best made up of people and people are dumb, panicky, dangerous, animals. I'm glad they are cracking down on illegals. Though there is no world where letting people with GEDs figure out who is and is not a citizen doesn't end with them making a mistake at least once in 11 million attempts. To think otherwise is retardation.
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no, seriously. i want you to provide more than just 'i think they're doing it'. because otherwise it's complete bullshit. if you're here legally, you can absolutely present papers immediately. in the current climate, if you're a legal immigrant you should have 16 copies of your paperwork, one for every room of your house, in your car, in your wallet.

there is no need for proving you're a legal citizen taking more than a single day, and as we've seen, abrego garcia is not a legal immigrant or citizen, which your coworkers wrongly parroted - it's incredible how much misinformation liberals spread - but in fact, a completely illegal immigrant who is confirmed to have been a gang member. when an actual citizen has actually been deported by this, go ahead and quote me. until then, stop making up shit that people have done, or claiming you're sure it's going to happen.

legal immigrants are not too retarded to be able to prove their legality. again, do you think they're just busting into homes and blackbagging them in the middle of the night with a name and a face, but nothing else? they had multiple years of criminal records for this guy. they CLEARLY did their due diligence.

Suddenly the government is full of competent and diligent people
no need for them to be competent, if you're a legal immigrant, have your papers on hand because there's a current nationwide sweep for illegals. simple as.
 
no, seriously. i want you to provide more than just 'i think they're doing it'. because otherwise it's complete bullshit. if you're here legally, you can absolutely present papers immediately. in the current climate, if you're a legal immigrant you should have 16 copies of your paperwork, one for every room of your house, in your car, in your wallet.
What the Men in Black movie scene with Will Smith he provided isn't enough evidence for you?
 
By grace of being an illegal we CAN yeet him at any time. The left takes the fundamentally invalid position that he somehow has the right to be here and thus we should give him a trial and all that nonsense before sending him back home, which they are doing because they know, and are counting on, this process giving them infinite amounts of time to perform lawfare and ultimately prevent the removal of these parasites from our nation. Biden let in what, 20 million? On top of the 10-20 that were already here? We do not have the time and resources to give them all trials.

And we don't have to, because giving them a trial concedes a fundamental error to the left: They do not have the right to be here, so they have nothing they can fight for in court. Illegals do not have any right to be in this country, period. The left wants this in court so they can invent, out of whole cloth, a sovereign right for any person in the world at any time to show up in American and be "owed" access to our country.
This got me thinking about how nonsensical the idea of putting him on trial is, and how it doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny.

Put him on trial. Okay, for what? What is the accusation? That he is here illegally? How would the prosecution prove that? By producing proof that he doesn't have a right to be in the country? That's backwards. The burden of proof is on the one claiming to have the right to be in the country, and the venue for presenting that proof is not a court.

He was already determined to have no papers showing his legal residency in the country. This was determined outside of court by ICE. If he had evidence that he was here legally he would have presented it then. This is quite literally the due process for this situation. Scheduling a court date, getting him in front of a judge, and getting a lawyer present for him to shrug and say he still has no papers is a waste of everyone's time and resources. There is nothing new to discuss.

Any other supposed crimes or gang affiliation is a distraction. We aren't trying him for a crime domestically and locking him up in our prisons. That would require a trial. We just don't want him and don't need to keep him so we got rid of him.

If I get pulled over, I am asked to present my driver's license. The officer is not accusing me of not having a driver's license and he doesn't have to prove that I don't have one. I am the one who, by driving a car, is claiming that I have authorization to drive a car. The burden of proof is on me to present proof of my entitlement to drive. If I don't have a license, have never had a license, and there is no record of me having a license, I am immediately removed from my car and imprisoned in South America not going to be allowed to drive home at the very least.

I know traffic court and immigration court are different, but imagine that it's impossible for me to get a license now (same as how it's impossible for an illegal to get legitimate residency). Would I be scheduled for a court hearing and be allowed to continue driving until then? What would even be said at the trial that isn't already known? It's been proven that I don't have a license. Why does a court need to rule on this?
 
No idea who but all my normal coworkers are going on about some person they are certain is a citizen who was sent to El Salvador. Assuming that person is actually an illegal it is still only a matter of time, given the rapid speed of deportation processing, until an actual citizen will get the boot.
I'm a naturalized US citizen. I have a paper that looks like this:

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in my bank safe deposit box and my home safe. If I were to get detained for being an immigrant, it would be a simple matter for my wife to bring over my citizenship papers.

If you are an American who was born abroad and do not have proof of citizenship/greencard ready at hand, you deserve what you get.
 
I like how nothing in the reply actually justifies the comparison to gassing illegals in death camps, it's just hysterical rambling about how illegals are kicked out and THAT MEANS CITIZENS ARE NEXT GUISE!

If the entire basis for them to be deported is them being non citizens, how the fuck is the "next step" deporting citizens? Where is the connection? How is deporting these people back to the country they came from because they aren't citizens the same as nazi death camps?
 
i was so interested in this i had to do the research. his grandparents were palestinian christians who moved to el salvador to escape persecution. interesting stuff, no wonder he's jumping at the chance to join up with the US, aside from being incredibly lucrative for el salvador.

Minor bit of trivia: there was a huge migration of Levantine Arab Christians who fled to various countries in South America shortly before and during WW1. Probably a good call since they didn't wanna end up genocided like the Armenians. What I didn't expect was learning that migration wasn't exclusively limited to South America; apparently Central America got their own fair share of Levantine (in this case Palestinian) Christians too.
 
I like how nothing in the reply actually justifies the comparison to gassing illegals in death camps, it's just hysterical rambling about how illegals are kicked out and THAT MEANS CITIZENS ARE NEXT GUISE!(...)
I wouldn't mind whimpering faggots like that being deported, admittedly, so in that sense I guess their fears are justified? :thinking:
 
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