Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[Rome's rightful successor]

So out of all of the modders and players of hoi4, how many do you think is an actual women?

Spoil that post. I do not want to see a nude deceased my 600 pound life contestant.

Axis Sally:

Spoiler: Not NSFW but offensively ugly woman to look at

No wonder she pulled a Devon and converted to Islam so she can wear a niqab. Most busted ass hoe in the whole racist scene.

Where there any other strange people he associated with?

 

[Computer God Autism]

So out of all of the modders and players of hoi4, how many do you think is an actual women?

Spoil that post. I do not want to see a nude deceased my 600 pound life contestant.

Where there any other strange people he associated with?

I know natal women who play EU4 and CK2, I don't know any who play HoI4.

 

[Aisin Gioro Puyi]

You know, it's been a while since anyone' checked in on the TNO subreddit. Let's see what's going on at that husk-

this problem exists on all hoi4 reddits
i've blocked atleast 4 people on the kaiserreich subreddit alone just so i dont have to see the 3 posts they make daily about savinkov yuri or anime faggot shit

edit: old world blues is pretty well pozzed at this point

 

[Vriljami]

I consulted the Learned Elders and I have to amend my post: The kitten killing meme was a reference to Axis Sally talking about stomping on cats. When she was called out she claimed it was a joke. But considering her other animal abuse comments, I'm not so sure...



Axis Sally walked so foodists could run.

 

[Red Dragon]

old world blues is pretty well pozzed at this point

OWB saddens me nowadays. It was a very nice mod but got turned into an OC contest. The mod is basically a huge fanfic now, and any semblance of the original idea is lost after so many reworks. I wish they reached the east coast before doing the Commie Canada shit.

It also pisses me off how they waste so much time implementing broken gimmick mechanics instead of making the mod run decently. I don't want a stupid currency system nor trading centers and all that jazz; I want a functional diplomacy and dozens of MIOs that makes sense. More research paths for equipment would be great too, shit is too homogenized for a post-apoc setting - but get rid of that stupid naval research, there's no need for all that on a mod that barely uses ships.

FODD for Darkest Hour, even being very flawed, was a lot of fun to mix and match equipment the way you wanted.

 

[Caligura]

OWB saddens me nowadays. It was a very nice mod but got turned into an OC contest. The mod is basically a huge fanfic now, and any semblance of the original idea is lost after so many reworks. I wish they reached the east coast before doing the Commie Canada shit.

It also pisses me off how they waste so much time implementing broken gimmick mechanics instead of making the mod run decently. I don't want a stupid currency system nor trading centers and all that jazz; I want a functional diplomacy and dozens of MIOs that makes sense. More research paths for equipment would be great too, shit is too homogenized for a post-apoc setting - but get rid of that stupid naval research, there's no need for all that on a mod that barely uses ships.

FODD for Darkest Hour, even being very flawed, was a lot of fun to mix and match equipment the way you wanted.

tbf that's kind of the problem when the world of Fallout is actually kind of... Empty, if you think about it. Obviously the lore in the areas that the games directly cover are alright (well, aside from the East Coast being a mess and I won't even acknowledge the TV show. At least OWB doesn't acknowledge it either) but like there's pretty much zero lore or any indicator of what's between the East and West coasts which is why OWB is such an OC fest.

Even the toozer and now forgotten Pre-War Fallout mod (which was supposed to be a sister mod to OWB) had to resort to filling holes with slop.

I'm of the opinion that OWB should've never went past the West Coast/Southwest whatsoever.

 

[Jimjam the zimzam]

If it was fed honeypot from the get-go, wouldn't that make infiltrating it a bit superfluous?

While you're right about the base likely having foreign glownigger involvement, it is wrong to assume that american LEO/glowniggers don't double-dip. one thing to understand about the US government is it is HUGE, and utterly hindered by red tape and information stovepipes. The left hand rarely if ever knows what the right hand is doing. hell, half the time the left index finger doesn't even know what the left thumb is doing. There have been multiple times in recent memory where multiple LEO/glownigger groups had informants/undercovers operating in some militia or dissident/extremist group and none of them were coordinating or even knew the others were involved. I recall one particular funny case a few years back where it was some stereotypical "right wing militia" where only a handful of guys involved were NOT informants/undercovers, with the glows ranging from county & state cops to FBI and I think DHS or ATF was involved too, and none of them were aware of each other. it became public knowledge because one of the groups decided they had collected enough evidence to pull a sting and wrap up the group, only to realize that every other guy there was a cop, agent, or informant. Can't find my archive link of it and it's been memory holed pretty hard so I can't provide proofs, sorry, but you probably remember it.

Sorry for replying to a days old post, just found out this thread exists and I'm catching up on it.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

What do you guys think will be in updates 1.0.8 and 1.0.9 for TFR?

Personally I think some of the factions in the 2nd American Civil War will get a slight rework. Maybe Japan as well.

Yeah, Lunch King confirmed in the reddit that a Japan update was gonna happen in the future, but (most of) the rest of Europe is gonna get content on 1.1 IIRC, and then Japan. Hopefully that'll help balance the Euro wars more, as Russia steamrolls Nato and the PoS/EuroInt/ETT quite easily

 

[Happy Camper]

Since 4chan is down for the count right now, I'm reposting the full leak list from the latest /tno/ thread here for posterity. Includes dozens of flowcharts and full planning documents. 4chan had the most prolific leaker scene since a lot of disgruntled ex-devs used the site and by the last thread nearly every major rework plan had leaked. Whether the site is restored or someone else picks up the torch, here's to making sure that the hard work of the baker anon that kept updating the list isn't lost to time.
Would personally recommend the Vote Pig doc and all associated files as they are by far some of the funniest and saltiest.

Spoiler: A wall of Catbox links.

https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart (never releasing).
https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December roundtable notes. Germany and Brazil never.
https://files.catbox.moe/c5pdqt.png - Japan rework. OTL PMs only, please.
https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden proposal. Dev back from break, will respond to all bait.
https://files.catbox.moe/ycctp0.png - Sweden flowchart. We lost Pakt Sweden for this OTL-fest.
https://files.catbox.moe/uq883w.pdf - Brazil-Argentina war design doc with mandatory non-canon nukes.
https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: Burgundy 2 was real but got scrapped like everything else.
https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov "facelift" document. The first leg in the now confirmed Komi rework.
https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Over two years in dev hell, still no release date.
https://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Kingdom of Montenegro flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/xfzdpv.png - Croatia flowchart #1.
https://files.catbox.moe/n2227q.png - Croatia flowchart #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/8oi80v.png - Old Bulgaria. You were robbed of Bulgaroslavia, anon.
https://files.catbox.moe/2ru4q1.png - Thailand flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.
https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.
https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.
https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.
https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p walltext about Colombian soccer mechanics.
https://files.catbox.moe/4w4k3k.png - Turkestan Legion rework flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.
https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th (?) space race mech rework mockup.
https://files.catbox.moe/2ln5tz.png - New Congressional mechanic leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/3ynutc.png - More Americanized Denmark GUIs.
https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree mega leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!
https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP rework leak, Hiram Fong replaces Romney scrapping years of work in the process because it "didn't fit the Republican narrative".
https://files.catbox.moe/0iyr6c.jpg - RepubliKKKan GUI (yes really).
https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design. Half of Germany still has its content disabled by the way.
https://files.catbox.moe/edk50c.png - Costa Rica design chart. No, none of this will ever be playable.
https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart. Many happenings, out shared outcome.
https://files.catbox.moe/djf9rg.pdf - Latest Moskowien rework proposal. Years of work flushed down the toilet for less gameplay and no wars.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.
https://files.catbox.moe/0m6sx5.png - Starting map of the new Caribbean
https://files.catbox.moe/fgb3kj.png - Starting map of the new Morocco
https://files.catbox.moe/zh06f9.png - British Guiana flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore document
https://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.

If anyone is interested, I also saved a lot of dev quote screenshots, it's usually just them discussing their plans for how to make the mod worse. There's a lot of them so it'd take a while to organize it into one post.

Spoiler: Devcord screenshot examples

In order: Brazil has been delayed for over two years, the only war added in the update will be non-canon because it's too hard for them to do something that everyone else does, and the Amur rework is meant to purposefully break all of Russia's superregional unifications.

 

[Red Dragon]

tbf that's kind of the problem when the world of Fallout is actually kind of... Empty, if you think about it.

I agree with that, but making their fanfics the forefront of the mod really hurts it. At least finish the parts where there is plenty of lore - West Coast, East Coast and Chicago area - THEN fill up the map with everything else. I like the Bethesda games as much as the olders ones, and seeing the map empty like that - and knowing the devs are wasting a lot of time and resources on freaking Canada - tells me we will never see the entire american wasteland done.

 

[Sooty Soot]

A new 1984 mod released, full content for Oceania and the UK and US if they rebel, and it's got a high contrast UI a la TNO and East vs West. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3465348500

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

A new 1984 mod released, full content for Oceania and the UK and US if they rebel, and it's got a high contrast UI a la TNO and East vs West. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3465348500
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Why is Eurasia pitch black? I can't even see them on the map

 

[GoodWinSon]

Also never understood why the final choice for Iberia was locked between OFN and Pakt membership when the latter still took over all of the colonies, feels more sensible if Iberia tried to join the Italian faction after a while with Turkey already having been shown to have it's own faction route.

Honestly a giant war for the med with Iberia + Turkey vs Italy vs the UAR would be cool.

Since 4chan is down for the count right now, I'm reposting the full leak list from the latest /tno/ thread here for posterity. Includes dozens of flowcharts and full planning documents. 4chan had the most prolific leaker scene since a lot of disgruntled ex-devs used the site and by the last thread nearly every major rework plan had leaked. Whether the site is restored or someone else picks up the torch, here's to making sure that the hard work of the baker anon that kept updating the list isn't lost to time.

Welcome to neu-TNO, where even the leaks don't have any code!

Edit: The planned Bormann 70s content with over half the paths being socialist or democratic doesn't sit right with me. Bormann is status quo; Speer should be the only one receiving democracy paths, at the very least until late 80s early 90s. Otherwise you risk taking away what makes Bormann and Speer unique from each other.

 

[Happy Camper]

Honestly a giant war for the med with Iberia + Turkey vs Italy vs the UAR would be cool.

Welcome to neu-TNO, where even the leaks don't have any code!

Edit: The planned Bormann 70s content with over half the paths being socialist or democratic doesn't sit right with me. Bormann is status quo; Speer should be the only one receiving democracy paths, at the very least until late 80s early 90s. Otherwise you risk taking away what makes Bormann and Speer unique from each other.

If you think that's bad, look at Japan. Can more or less be democratic and nice all game. In fact, both Bormann and nearly all Japanese routes are depicted more charitably than a lot of the US rework routes they have planned. Seriously, compare the Japanese chart to the Schlafly one where every action leads to fascism or the apocalypse. Before you ask: yes, both US leads are Democrat activists IRL that cannot separate their personal views from the mod they're making.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Even the toozer and now forgotten Pre-War Fallout mod (which was supposed to be a sister mod to OWB) had to resort to filling holes with slop.

Old lady Greta Thunberg in charge of Iceland.

 

[GoodWinSon]

So two more thoughts

1. The leaked balkans plans are really boring. The independence paths are completely impossible if Italy stays fascist. What's the fun in that? The only thing that encourages is abusing country path selectors. Also it's really boring for Italy, since you are either never in danger of losing your colony, or you just let them go if you go democratic. Also, no direct war with Serbia. You just lose some states at worst. The real life Yugoslav breakdown had higher stakes!

2. We have an interesting setting, and their first idea is "wow I love watching MPs squabbling about taxes on the telly, we should put that in the mod!"

If you think that's bad, look at Japan. Can more or less be democratic and nice all game. In fact, both Bormann and nearly all Japanese routes are depicted more charitably than a lot of the US rework routes they have planned. Seriously, compare the Japanese chart to the Schlafly one where every action leads to fascism or the apocalypse. Before you ask: yes, both US leads are Democrat activists IRL that cannot separate their personal views from the mod they're making.

Whitewashing fascist Japan to put down American Republicans? Based and keyed. Glory to the Emperor. Banzai. Co-Prosperity will triumph.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

I consulted the Learned Elders and I have to amend my post: The kitten killing meme was a reference to Axis Sally talking about stomping on cats. When she was called out she claimed it was a joke. But considering her other animal abuse comments, I'm not so sure...

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Axis Sally walked so foodists could run.

These comments + this bitch being a former pornstar makes me think she may have acted in a few “crush” videos back in the day.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Is this real?

 

[Caligura]

Is this real?
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The live-action Kaiserreich miniseries by Kaiser Cat Cinema is pretty much vaporware at this point and live action has always been easier to make than animated. So chances of this is nada.

 

[I_Lurk_Here]

Is this real?
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Thought that was AVGN there.