Karl Jobst / karljobst / FAQ_GOD / simthreat / approachhernow.com - Albino autist, Spergy speed runner, Pickup predator and Bitch of Mitchell

[Chester Copperpot]

If I had to offer a nuanced take, I don't think it's all entirely a bust, but it obviously has many problems of its own. His strongest arguments are that the judge potentially ignored some counters to Mitchell's claims, and that Jobst wasn't the first person to make the claim, despite them saying so anyway.

It is only a strong argument if it is true. As we can't access the court files, I can't be certain, but my read on the 'ignored evidence' claim is that Jobst basically wanted to enter into evidence unattributable comments (ie posts or comments from people known only by online handles) and was rightly told that it is not admissible. That isn't going to change on appeal and is not the judge ignoring evidence. Karl needs to appreciate that online life and real life are not the same thing and what the internet accepts as 'receipts' and what a court of law accepts as evidence are necessarily quite different.

And unfortunately for Karl the 'everyone else was doing it, why are you picking on me' classroom cry is not a legitimate legal defence. Billy doesn't have to go after everyone who makes the claim.

In any event, Karl's issue was that he made it in a demonstrably false and defamatory way. If he'd said something like 'I can imagine that the stress of a lawsuit contributed to the mental health struggles that led to Ben's suicide' I don't think he'd have an issue.

But that is the problem I think Karl is having. I think everyone would agree that a lawsuit and a suicidal kid is a dangerous mix, but the reality is that you've just got to be more careful when shifting from that to specifuc claims about specific actions driving someone to suicide. An analogous example might be everyone thinking some weird fucking shit is going down when an adult has unrelated young boys sleeping in their bed, versus publishing specific allegations about Michael Jackson abusing particular people. The general view can be that there might be fire where we see smoke, but if you're publishing defamatory claims as fact, you need more than inference, even if many would agree or draw a similar conclusion.

 

[nito]

Most people won't do their own research, just take whatever their most trustworthy source tells them, even if it's wrong, and move on with their life. Not many people care to go the length or have better things to do, fair enough. He still lost and has to pay Billy for being a massive idiot.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

IIRC the extensions that show the dislikes in youtube just show an aproximation based on people using the extension, not the real numbers of dislikes, also people with the extension are more prone to dislike than people without it, even if they think the video is garbage they will rather not click anything and/or call him a retard instead.

Whether the extension's count is accurate or not, it won't make the money owed to Billy go away

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I find it hard to believe that any lawyer planning an appeal would be okay with a public statement as retarded as this

If Karl listened to his lawyers he would have retracted the statements and settle.

Pretty tragic seeing how little the dislike ratio is.
Usually when a person gets dogpiled on its muchbmuch worse.

Has any mainstream youtubers covered it yet? That's where most of the dogpilers come from.

 

[Jamal Bingus]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

 

[I enjoy women]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

Karl is a faggot tranny supporter leftist that thinks you should go to prison if you say that trans women aren't real women.

 

[nito]

If Karl listened to his lawyers he would have retracted the statements and settle.


Has any mainstream youtubers covered it yet? That's where most of the dogpilers come from.

Not a big youtuber, but this guy is a lawyer (not a defamation one tho) and has been following the case for several months, his takes are pretty reasonable in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c57JIDDdzv8

 

[American Castration]

Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why.

cuz he's a lolcow.
a retarded cautionary tale for all of us to learn from.
I love these stories for the same reason many people love true crime stories: On some level, you're studying the psychosis and delusions of others, and comparing them against yourself, and making sure you never fall into the same retarded psychological pitfalls they fell into

In the case of Karl (and erstatz_cats), the clinical psychiatric diagnosis was simple:
Acute, Stage 5, Billy Mitchell Derangment Syndrome.
Alas, their infection was terminal.
Now, we all get to laugh our balls off at them.

 

[Buffy Anne Summers]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

Apollo would've said so if that were the case, but he instead blamed two people that Karl happens to be friendly with, not only that, worked with one of them on a video about Apollo. Karl has way more possible guilt within the situation than Billy, hence easy motivation to throw the stones at Billy first. And even if that did happen, why hide it under "I'm suing him for cheating in vidya", frankly neither story has any business in a courtroom but Karl's foolish lying got him where he is now. The cheating was to get the public riled and on his side, but the Apollo thing was a personal beef Karl couldn't let go of, he's a classic case of not nearly mature enough to use the internet or have a family or anything at all ever.

 

[Schlomo Silverscreenblatt]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

Karl shouldn't have knowingly racked up the bills and spent more than 15 minutes looking up redditors posts before saying Billy Mitchel killed a man because he drained him dry of money.

 

[Vibralldo]

"Apollo lost to Billy and had to pay a settlement. This put Apollo into debt and he had to take on extra work. Combined with his illness this was too much for him and he decided to take his own life."

"I didn't say Billy caused the death, I was just outlining a sequence of events"

Karl is such a slimy piece of shit and deserves to lose everything

 

[Sharpeteer]

Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why.

Because we feel like it, and literally zero other reasoning is required or needed.

Karl is a faggot tranny supporter leftist that thinks you should go to prison if you say that trans women aren't real women.

And that's before you get into knowing the truth of why somebody died, knowing who they said was ultimately responsible, and blaming someone else to protect said people because they're your friends.

Put that next to Billy - potentially cheated at Donkey Kong arcade decades ago, and tried to sue people for calling him a cheater.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

I don't really care that he defamed Billy, this is funny because 1. he's a lolcow and 2. this never would have happened if he just kept making videos about fake NES speedruns and shit like he was supposed to.

 

[lightbringga]

Not a big youtuber, but this guy is a lawyer (not a defamation one tho) and has been following the case for several months, his takes are pretty reasonable in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c57JIDDdzv8

It sounds like he's saying Karl's lawyer scammed him by racking up the bill and not giving a great defense. What he probably doesn't realize is Karl is a spiteful cunt and was deliberately racking up the bill because he was confident he would win and Billy would be ordered to pay 95% of his costs.

 

[I enjoy women]

Because we feel like it, and literally zero other reasoning is required or needed.

Yeah, that's why the weird moralizing is kind of strange. This is a website dedicated to laughing at exceptional individuals like Karl Jobst and the situations they get themselves in, it's funny and no one has any personal stake in some retard financially ruining himself over some game about a gorilla throwing barrels. Why would I care, it's not my money.

 

[American Castration]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

The sub-forum here is "Internet Famous".
If Karl Jobst were a hardworking man: a roofer, an auto mechanic, a cook, whatever, I don't think anybody would be so nasty. He'd invoke pity and people say, "Bro, you've lost your way. Stop worrying about some 60 year-old gamer."
Instead, Karl chose a shitty, useless "career" - being a YouTuber, attacking others, sitting on his ass.
You can't choose such a meaningless career (in order to avoid actual productive work in your life), attack others, and then claim innocence when it comes back your way.

 

[Jay2U]

It's funny how some people think Billy wouldn't have won in American court. He proved Karl was being malicious and that he lost income because of his statements.

 

[Fucker Carlson]

It's funny how some people think Billy wouldn't have won in American court. He proved Karl was being malicious and that he lost income because of his statements.

An American court might have made Karl pay Billy even more money, considering how many views some of those videos had.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Karl jobst,more like Karl jobless

Karl Multiple Jobsts

 

[The Noise]

I know this place has a really negative slant.
But I honestly think it's a bit ridiculous that Karl owes 400,000 dollaridoos for saying something which lets be honest here, isn't that absurd.

Billy Mitchell is a litigious cunt, and saying that this retard killed himself cus he got sued by this litigious cunt, isn't that crazy considering it did seem like there way a payout when it was said.
Lots of people are cheering this guys financial destruction and I don't really get why. Fuck gay lawfare in any capacity.

This wasn't "gay lawfare," this was a situation Karl Jobst walked into due to his own retardation. He knew that he was doing was wrong and had multiple people tell him this, but he continued onwards anyways. He had every opportunity to prevent the lawsuit from happening if he had just issued a proper retraction and refused to do so. At any point he could have settled and refused to do so. Not only that, but he decided to make things worse for himself by making insulting videos on the guy who was suing him for five fucking years. People here are going to laugh at those who voluntarily make fools of themselves and ignore advice, it's literally the point of the site.

Personal feelings on Mitchell are irrelevant and thinking that the judge would care about his personal feelings is what sunk any defense Jobst could've had.