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I have been looking more into the Kilmar controversy today, it seems that the crux of the issue is this:

He is an illegal immigrant, (and ALLEGEDLY a gang member),, that much is a fact, there's no getting around it, BUT, ICE violated the 2019 court order to legally shield him from deportation, by still sending him back anyway.

It seems that by the Trump admin refusing to take him back despite breaking the rule of law, this sets a "concerning" precedent that any illegal immigrant cam be deported regardless of their current status given by their local immigration court, essentially allowing the Trump admin to do whatever it wants, even if it conflicts with the establish law.

Am I clear?, is there anything else i'm missing out?
He IS a gang member. He was stopped by Tennessee Highway Patrol trafficking 7 other individuals, 2 of them were on the terrorism watch list. He had domestic violence against his now wife, who got an order of protection against him saying she feared for her and her children's lives. The rival gang he had stated to have feared reprisal from no longer exists. The judges indefinite stay of deportation to El Salvador specifically went beyond his temporary discretion. Trumps EO that made cartels terrorist orgs further invalidates consideration of his right to stay.

Yea, you missed a fucking lot.
 
Mistake by Vance here. The left's answer is going to be "So we should give all 30-40 million illegals 2 hearings and a chance to fight the deportation order before they're made to leave."
He's just showing they don't actually care about due process as the guy "got it" twice over
 
Nothing will make you pro-Israel quite like having to spend five minutes talking to a pro-Palestine commie.
How have Americans become so braindead they think that for every conflict they must choose a side?

I don’t care if one side is more just than the other. Or more “Western”.

Both have incredibly gay supporters. Both have committed atrocities in the past and present.

As far as I’m concerned, they’re two brown people beefing over shit started by their grandpas and that has nothing to do with me except that my Dad gives one of them a bunch of money (even though brownoid constantly takes advantage of him in any way he can) and my annoying cousin won’t shut the fuck up about the plight of the other faggot to anyone who will listen (even though they’ve never spent time together and brownoid would rape and murder them if given the opportunity).

I wouldn’t care if either of them or both ceased to exist, but I also don’t want to see them suffer. That’s as compassionate as I’ll get.

I’m just glad that Israel is fair game for criticism.
 
Am I clear?, is there anything else i'm missing out?
You got most of it right but I will clarify a few things - anyway, this is the main thread for the discussion https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trump...o-return-illegally-deported-man-to-us.217124/

He is an illegal immigrant, (and ALLEGEDLY a gang member INAL, but a judge considered that to be a credible source. I don't think he is confirmed beyond reasonable doubt he is, but he is the one who had to prove that he is not dangerous to Americans and the accusation was deemed trustworthy enough),, that much is a fact, there's no getting around it, BUT, ICE violated the 2019 court order to legally shield him from deportation (you need to specific "To El Salvador", he could be deported to other countries, just not there), by still sending him back anyway.

It seems that by the Trump admin refusing to take him back (They are not refusing, the president of El Salvador refuses to give him back, and the US has no claim to him. In the meeting between Trump and Bukele, Trump asked if he wanted to send the guy to the US, but he said no. What should the US do with an illegal immigrant who does not have any claim to the US?) despite breaking the rule of law, this sets a "concerning" precedent that any illegal immigrant cam be deported regardless of their current status given by their local immigration court. Yes, although it is really not that concerning, since it did not happen to a citizen (and I feel for the Kiwi who was confused, the media is really trying to make it look like he was a US citizen), or to an immigrant who didn't have any deportation order.
There is a concerning precedent also of a judge to order the president in matters of foreign policy (SCOTUS was clear it is not the immigration judge remit), and also possibly a precedent of making it much harder to deport people.

It is not a "precedent" in a legal sense, but of course it is scary to think that you could mistakenly deported. However, as I said, that is not really the case here.
In the other thread, I also mentioned the tourists who are arrested in other countries (think: idiots who bring drugs to some Asian countries), and then are given the death penalty. This sort of thing happens fairly often.
It is not nice or good, but bad things happen; mistakes happen. All in all, this is really not the hill to die on

(Edit: I am also not up to date as I thought!)
 
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Remember Daniel Penny and that was deep blue pozzed Jew York where the nigger died and deserved it.

It will be a wakeup call to people in Texas since I have not been hearing good things about the Texas GOP for the past few years.
i feel like Texas was always a meme that people latched onto because of Bush, Florida has been way more fucking conservative since the 1970s at the very least. like they've had way fewer democratic governors or democrats in the state legislature than texas whereas Texas has mainly had democratic governors up until very recently.

i think another big reason is population, Texas has been #2 for awhile so them being the GOP's headquarters vs Cali being the Democrat's just sounds like it should be correct.

honestly Florida in general is also so much cooler that i doubt the liberals want people to realize its a republican hivemind. like when you think of Miami or Orlando or everywhere south of the panhandle florida is awesome and its a major vacation destination, meanwhile no one tries to hype up texas waterfront property as a vacation destination.

Texas has a dirty image, guys on farms or oil rigs busting their ass and covered in stuff, whereas Florida just seems like a non-stop party. a hedonistic paradise. libs don't want people to think about the GOP when they think of that

But yeah Texas is the land of Bush tier conservatives meaning its super pozzed, its a shitty place full of conservacucks who will free this nigger
 
It's great that Tulsi Gabbard as DNI is releasing these files. She's previously released the JFK files, the Biden Administration's "Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism", Crossfire Hurricane files, and disclosed hackable voting systems.

The official DNI account reshared Tulsi talking about the RFK files released today. Video report by... the Daily Wire.
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Thankfully, Tulsi Gabbard is do a better job than Pam Bondi.
Hank Hill scolds Pam Bondi.webp
 
Other than the 2019 order to deport him anywhere but El Salvador, is there anything else note worthy about him that would make him a leftist darling?
He doesn't immediately make you recoil upon viewing him. He's made some attempts to conceal his gang tattoos (although I heard it suggested the leftists tried to airbrush his tattoos down too in those propaganda photos). He's an uwu poor widdle bwown pppl wot just does his job and only commits some crime.

Again, remember that the foundational assumption the left is attempting to normalize is that he's allowed to be here even though he arrived illegally. That citizenship and immigration processes, policies, and laws are outdated. After all, we're just an Economic Zone and everyone in the world is entitled to be here.
 
He doesn't immediately make you recoil upon viewing him. He's made some attempts to conceal his gang tattoos (although I heard it suggested the leftists tried to airbrush his tattoos down too in those propaganda photos). He's an uwu poor widdle bwown pppl wot just does his job and only commits some crime.

Again, remember that the foundational assumption the left is attempting to normalize is that he's allowed to be here even though he arrived illegally. That citizenship and immigration processes, policies, and laws are outdated. After all, we're just an Economic Zone and everyone in the world is entitled to be here.
It's fun seeing them make fools of themselves though. They look so bad when they defend literal terrorists because they're brown and no other reasons. It's unhinged. I say let them flounder.
 
Am I clear?, is there anything else i'm missing out?
Yes. , there was no mistake. This guy was determined by the immigration courts and the appeals courts (with a lawyer, full due process, etc) to be in the US illegally, and to be a member of MS-13. He was given a lawful final deportation order in 2019. When he was given his final deportation order he whined to the Court, that as a gangbanger himself, he was scared of a rival gang killing him if he went back to El Salvado. The court did him a favor and issued an 'order of withholding' which limits his deportation order to any country other than El Salvador. HOWEVER, after this order, MS-13 was declared a designated terrorist organization and members of such groups are not eligible for this dispensation. At the point when MS-13 was so declared (back in Febuary), the order of withholding was invalidated, as members of that group (as he was judicially adjudicated to be) are not eligible for this 'favor' in withholding.

Nothing was improper in his deportation. He was sent back to his country of origin/citizenship, and his own government is holding him there in prison for crimes he committed there. We basically extradited him to El Salvador, essentially. All the drama is made up manufactured outrage by the TDS judge and media.
 
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Democrats spent years making their websites shit on Trump. Turnabout is fair play.
How have Americans become so braindead they think that for every conflict they must choose a side?
How have Americans become so braindead they think that Muslims are good after they flew planes into our buildings and killed 3,000 Americans?

Inb4 "Dancing Israelis," "Jews did 9/11," "NEOCON NEOCON NEOCON!!!," or your favorite: "THE LEFT LEFT YOU!!! :'("

Fuck Muslims, fuck the Palestinians, and fuck any retarded niggerfaggot who runs defense for them. I hope the Israelis glass all Muslims who stand in their way. If that bugs you, then fuck you, too. Yes, I'm mad. I know people who died on 9/11 and it grinds my gears when people try to sympathize with the Medieval barbarian culture responsible for it.
 
I have been looking more into the Kilmar controversy today, it seems that the crux of the issue is this:

He is an illegal immigrant, (and ALLEGEDLY a gang member),, that much is a fact, there's no getting around it, BUT, ICE violated the 2019 court order to legally shield him from deportation, by still sending him back anyway.

It seems that by the Trump admin refusing to take him back despite breaking the rule of law, this sets a "concerning" precedent that any illegal immigrant cam be deported regardless of their current status given by their local immigration court, essentially allowing the Trump admin to do whatever it wants, even if it conflicts with the establish law.

Am I clear?, is there anything else i'm missing out?
Ok, what about letting him in in the first place? Why is that an ok whoopsie daisy?
 
How have Americans become so braindead they think that Muslims are good after they flew planes into our buildings and killed 3,000 Americans?

Inb4 "Dancing Israelis," "Jews did 9/11," "NEOCON NEOCON NEOCON!!!," or your favorite: "THE LEFT LEFT YOU!!! :'("

Fuck Muslims, fuck the Palestinians, and fuck any retarded niggerfaggot who runs defense for them. I hope the Israelis glass all Muslims who stand in their way. If that bugs you, then fuck you, too. Yes, I'm mad. I know people who died on 9/11 and it grinds my gears when people try to sympathize with the Medieval barbarian culture responsible for it.
Muslims haven't grown-up since their founding. Arguably they've gotten worse due to all the inbreeding and things like ballistic missiles. The Crusades were justified
 
All the bitching I see about illegals being sent to El Salvador seems to ignore that the country is very near a lot of other countries. If it's found that some of the immigrants came from Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Belize, Mexico, Costa Rica, it would be a shorter distance to send them to the right place from El Salvador than from the middle of the USA.
To my ignorant lil' potato brain sending the Hispanic ones there for holding until they confirm a country of origin isn't the worst idea ever.
I dunno. I'm probably missing something.
 
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